View Full Version : "A calorie is a calorie" violates the second law of thermodynamics
eugeneeg
08-10-2004, 11:39 PM
Enjoy! :)
http://www.nutritionj.com/content/3/1/9#IDAF1RX1
Shark
08-11-2004, 12:49 AM
Long read but interesting, i would like to see what some of the members more well versed on this subject matter have to say.
Holto
08-11-2004, 11:11 AM
LoCHO = 23 lbs
LoCHO+300 = 20 lbs
LoFat = 17 lbs
so the LoCHO group lost more weight
who lost more LBM ?
who lost more FAT ?
who lost more WATER ?
nobody should take this seriously when they didn't even measure thier results scientifically
why were their BF %'s not measured ?
how many cals in a LB of water ?
LOL
and how about entropy...the 2nd law
the loss of cals as heat for example is simply present as one of many factors on the CALS OUT side of the equation
calories are a gross value of the energy contained in food
the net value varies tremendously among different foods and even in individuals
if you eat 100 grams of glucose
or 100 grams of brown rice the net energy yielded for the glucose will be higher
someone with compromised digestion could take twice as long to digest the rice
some people have a transit time in the GI tract that is 3 times longer than a healthy average person
so even after the cals from the rice are burned off they are spending more cals on peristalsis (contraction of the colon) to eliminate the waste from the body
Shark
08-11-2004, 01:41 PM
I was also thinking about the loss of water as a result of the low carb diet being a contributing factor. I know in my personal experice I can lose as much as 10 pounds in the first week cutting carbs and not really notice a difference in my appearance.
Holto
08-11-2004, 03:26 PM
yeah all this study proves is that a LoCHO diet is better for TEMPORARY loss of water weight
to do this right they would have to take patients weights after the study concluded
and of course BF%
eugeneeg: thanks for posting it thought that site is solid
I liked the one where 26% of the medical specialists they interviewed didn't know olive oil was a good source of MONO's
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