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eugeneeg
08-10-2004, 11:39 PM
Enjoy! :)
http://www.nutritionj.com/content/3/1/9#IDAF1RX1

Shark
08-11-2004, 12:49 AM
Long read but interesting, i would like to see what some of the members more well versed on this subject matter have to say.

Holto
08-11-2004, 11:11 AM
LoCHO = 23 lbs
LoCHO+300 = 20 lbs
LoFat = 17 lbs

so the LoCHO group lost more weight

who lost more LBM ?

who lost more FAT ?

who lost more WATER ?

nobody should take this seriously when they didn't even measure thier results scientifically

why were their BF %'s not measured ?

how many cals in a LB of water ?

LOL

and how about entropy...the 2nd law

the loss of cals as heat for example is simply present as one of many factors on the CALS OUT side of the equation

calories are a gross value of the energy contained in food

the net value varies tremendously among different foods and even in individuals

if you eat 100 grams of glucose

or 100 grams of brown rice the net energy yielded for the glucose will be higher

someone with compromised digestion could take twice as long to digest the rice

some people have a transit time in the GI tract that is 3 times longer than a healthy average person

so even after the cals from the rice are burned off they are spending more cals on peristalsis (contraction of the colon) to eliminate the waste from the body

Shark
08-11-2004, 01:41 PM
I was also thinking about the loss of water as a result of the low carb diet being a contributing factor. I know in my personal experice I can lose as much as 10 pounds in the first week cutting carbs and not really notice a difference in my appearance.

Holto
08-11-2004, 03:26 PM
yeah all this study proves is that a LoCHO diet is better for TEMPORARY loss of water weight

to do this right they would have to take patients weights after the study concluded

and of course BF%

eugeneeg: thanks for posting it thought that site is solid

I liked the one where 26% of the medical specialists they interviewed didn't know olive oil was a good source of MONO's