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HahnB
08-11-2004, 06:06 PM
Test only for a first cycle? I was thinking about including dbol for first 5 weeks(based on others advise) @ 35-40mg a day.

so

Dbol weeks 1-5 @35mg
Test(either cyp or prop) weeks 1-10 @500mg 2 shots per week

Clomid(probably have some nolva around just in case)
starting apx 2 weeks after last shot

Week1 50mg
week 2 100mg
week 3 50mg
week 4 100mg

23yrs old- 5'11 173-175lbs appx. 10%bf
I'm aware I could add more size naturally at this point-but would like some feedback on this cycle. I've added about 40lbs since I first began training.

PowerManDL
08-11-2004, 07:14 PM
Cyp is fine as you've got it, but you're going to be doing more than two shots a week with prop....

You also might find that you won't need more than 30mg of dbol.

Otherwise looks ok.

HahnB
08-11-2004, 07:25 PM
Cyp will probably be my choice then, which I can get a little cheaper and I hear it's not a bad choice for beginners.

BCC
08-11-2004, 09:15 PM
I would just stick with the test probably. Feel each drug out individually. Really for a first cycle if you want to introduce dbol I would do it at the end. Test will most likely be the base for any further cycles you do, so why not profoundly know its effects?

HahnB
08-11-2004, 10:41 PM
I would just stick with the test probably. Feel each drug out individually. Really for a first cycle if you want to introduce dbol I would do it at the end. Test will most likely be the base for any further cycles you do, so why not profoundly know its effects?

Not a bad idea, especially since it will be a great deal cheaper with only test-as well as the other reason you mentioned. Do you think I'll be pleased with my gains going with a test only cycle?

BCC
08-11-2004, 11:50 PM
I don't see why you wouldn't be pleased with a test only cycle. It really keeps coming back down to your diet. That's one thing I've found. Whenever I throw more and more drugs together, it really hasn't always equated to more gains. I keep finding myself going back to 500mgs of test with one other drug. If anything I think you'd be more pleased going test only this time. Then the next time around add some tren in at 75mgs EOD.

Saint Patrick
08-12-2004, 12:02 AM
You're wise beyond your years, Chase. :read:

HahnB
08-12-2004, 12:26 AM
Sounds good to me. I probably won't start for another 3-4 weeks but I'll post how it goes. Ty for the advise.

Beast
08-12-2004, 12:20 PM
Yeah, whatever you run, make sure you eat a LOT... it helps so much.

PowerManDL
08-12-2004, 02:11 PM
I agree with Chase.

Test alone is going to be your heavy hitter, and once you know how you respond to it you'll be a lot better off.

You'll likely be very pleased with 500mg of test for 8-10 weeks.

chris mason
08-12-2004, 02:56 PM
Man, put me on 1000 mg of test per week and I would grow like a ****ing weed!!!!!!!!!!!!

HahnB
08-12-2004, 04:06 PM
I think you would be scary on any amount of test lol. Diet won't be an issue, I enjoy that part:) Will I benefit more by dividing the dose into 2 shots, or should I just do 1 a week?

PowerManDL
08-12-2004, 06:08 PM
With long esters it doesn't matter.

You might find it's easier to do 2 1ml shots, or you might just want to stick it in your ass and get it done.

Either way.

chris6969
08-12-2004, 07:45 PM
I like 2x a week better. Think it gives you a more consistant level and that mental excitement 2x a week instead of 1x, too!! :)

BigMatt
08-12-2004, 09:01 PM
2 per week
Monday and thursday

Gabrielle
08-13-2004, 01:34 AM
a gram is a bit high for your first time..I would also suggest running nolva and dex alongside jus in case..better than safe than sorry..you could also run the test for 2 extra weeks to make it 12 weeks..and run the dbol at 25mg for 4 weeks instead of 5 weels..looking at your avatar you look good..best of luck

chris6969
08-13-2004, 09:23 AM
if your avatar is you before ever juicing, you're going to look great after.

HahnB
08-13-2004, 09:49 AM
if your avatar is you before ever juicing, you're going to look great after.

Thanks, but I'm only about 150 in that pic.
The main thing I'm concerned about now is getting the first few injections right. Spotinjections.com has helped a lot so I think it should go OK.

And as far as the dbol I think I'm going to just run the test alone. I decided to purchase it from a reputble online source instead of a friend mainly because people are shady when it comes to drugs, and I know the kid pretty good but I don't know his source at all. Being a test only cycle I won't pay an arm and a leg for it so I might as well know it's legit.

chris6969
08-13-2004, 11:02 AM
weight isnt everything.

being lean and "big for your frame" counts A LOT more than weight.

HahnB
08-13-2004, 11:27 AM
weight isnt everything.

being lean and "big for your frame" counts A LOT more than weight.

True, and I have a small frame, small wrists etc...

PowerManDL
08-13-2004, 03:33 PM
weight isnt everything.

being lean and "big for your frame" counts A LOT more than weight.

I said that too till I broke 200 :D

HahnB
08-13-2004, 03:38 PM
Looks like I'm going to have enough to run 400mg, if I want to go with 500 I'll have to get another vial. I would rather stick with 400 and save some cash if that will still suffice?

PowerManDL
08-13-2004, 03:42 PM
You'll probably be ok with 400, but it's your call. I wouldn't go any lower than 400 though.

HahnB
08-13-2004, 05:52 PM
Maybe I should just suck it up and buy another vial. I don't want to settle, especially for my first cycle.

Brawl
08-13-2004, 06:47 PM
Listen to BCC he's right on bro .

2 times per week would be good too .

Run 500per week I think you will fint that better .

Test is the gear that matters , everything else is icing on the cake .