1ad/Androdiol Select 300 Stack, serious question.

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I read the sticky about the 1ad/4ad stack, but can't find my answer there. I am coming close to finishing a stack of 1ad/Androdiol Select 300. The gain is not at all what I would be happy with, as it is only about 3lbs. I started taking the 1ad incrementally, leveling off at 600mg/day for the last 2 weeks.

NOW, I read and heard from many sources that 6-oxo is needed for pct, HOWEVER, I have also read that 1-ad doesn't require 6-oxo, but it is the 4ad that aromatizes. Well on ergopharm's website it clearly states that Androdiol Select 300 - Androdiol cannot directly aromatize to estrogen (a problem with androstenedione). , cannot aromatize.

Do I need 6-oxo, and if i can't get it (I am in Canada, and with our wonderful laws, i can't find it anywhere) should I be seriously worried? AND if I do get it, how late after the cycle can I take it?

[Saint Patrick]

Introduction to Prohormones (http://www.1fast400.com/?articleID=37)

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is androdiol select 300 4-andro?

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*bump*

[migs]

its 4AD

that would be a yes.

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ok, BUT, on the hormone website, it gives two stacking examples.

1ad/4ad

and

1ad/1,4-andro


so is androdiol select 300 4ad, or is it 4-andro?


Excuse my ignorance.

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Basically, I did a stack of 1ad/androdiol select 300, and would like to know if I did:

1-test + 4-AD
Price: Transdermal – very low; oral – high
Effectiveness: Very effective
Side effects: Moderate-high androgenic and low-moderate estrogenic
Recommended dosages: 1-test: 150-250 mg transdermal, 300-500 mg oral, 500-800 mg oral as 1-AD. 4-AD: 200-400 mg transdermal, 600-1200 mg oral.
Comments: This is the most popular stack, and with good reason. Transdermally, this combination produces fast and noticeable results and at a good price. Orally (usually in the form of 1-AD and 4-AD) it is more expensive but still a highly effective stack. The 1-test provides high anabolic activity while the 4-AD reduces some of the side effects and provides additional anabolism. Sex drive is usually maintained or even significantly increased. This is the #1 recommended stack for beginners who want to see good gains with a good side effect profile.

OR

1-test + 1,4-andro
Price: Transdermal/oral – high; oral – very high
Effectiveness: Highly effective
Side effects: Moderate androgenic, low estrogenic
Recommended dosages: 1-test: 150-250 mg transdermal, 300-500 mg oral, 500-800 mg oral as 1-AD. 1,4-andro: 600-1000 mg oral.
Comments: In my opinion this is the most effective dieting stack for beginners (when the 1-test is transdermal), with the primary issue being the high price. 1-test is androgenic, while the 1,4-andro will offset this effect to a degree, and both compounds will promote lean mass gain or at least maintenance of strength and size on a diet. The 1,4-andro will provide a small amount of estrogen that will also be beneficial.

[EdgarMex]

You did neither of those two stacks. You did 1AD+4AD

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EdgarMex Notice in the description, 1-test is also pointed out in the form of 1-ad. I know 1-test is NOT 1-ad but for the purpose of the two examples it can be 1-ad/4-ad, or 1ad/1,4 andro

So really all i wanted to know is whether androdiol select 300 was 1,4 andro or 4-ad, thanks for clearing this up.

NOW, I live in Canada, and I can't get my hands on 6-oxo, i've been looking everywhere. The one thing I can get is gynotek by formula one from musclemag. It's an estrogen supressant. Will that work?

[migs]

I dont think going with the 1,4Andro is a good idea at least that is what I have heard. I think the 1,4 andro is an androdione which isnt that good for building and has alot of androgenic sides but Im no expert.

The stacks which Ive read good reviews about were the 1Test + 4AD. 1AD + 4AD is also a good stack but not as effective as the 1Test because it gets converted to the 1Test so just go ahead with it.

Lots of good reviews with S1+ transdermal (1Test+4AD)