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big calvin
11-02-2001, 08:49 PM
ok im guessing most of u know what health issues im going through, what drugs i take, and what diet im on. the question i have is what should i do when post workout meal comes along?should i stick to my protein and fat or make a carb shake(that ill tell u laterin the post)? the reason is i want to make everything perfect , my diet is going good now and i feel like this is a way i can eat and feel confortable in eating these foods without calling it a diet. now if i dont have a post workout "carbs" wouldnt i lose that much more muslce in the long run? i know my main goal right now is losing weigh(in the form of fat and some water) but sence im diabetic wouldnt having more muslce or keeping more muscle help me in the long run with insulin resistance? or would keeping to al'a atkins be better? could that carbs do me bad or because its post workout it would do nothing but good?

this is the meal im plaining to add in i do add a post workout shake:

50g protein from whey protein isolate
40g carbs from grape juice
10g creatine
10g glutamine
400mg ALA

what do you guys think would be my best choice?

heathj
11-03-2001, 12:20 AM
double carbs.

big calvin
11-03-2001, 05:59 AM
are u kidding health!?! 80g carbs!! man thats alot!! ummmm double grape juice :drooling: :p :D

anyone have differenmt views on this?

syntekz
11-03-2001, 06:00 AM
Yah, double the carbs. You need to replenish your body from the workout.

big calvin
11-03-2001, 06:13 AM
ok guys do remember that im diabetic and trying to lose weight right? lol. just asking, i just cant beleave all the time i wouldnt have ANY carbs post workout because i thought it was cheating!!

thanks guys!!

MWB
11-03-2001, 09:37 AM
Cal, the general rule is twice as many carbs to protein. I would take 25 grams of whey with 50 carbs if I were you. Then about 60-90 min later eat a whole food meal. You could even experiment with the carbs by splitting the 50 into two different types of carbs. Say 25 from grape juice and 25 from oats. See how your body handles it, and if it does allright gradually up the percentage of grape juice.
With you being diabetic you're going to have to do a lot of experimenting to see what you can safely handle.

The_Chicken_Daddy
11-03-2001, 09:46 AM
i hear 3:1 carb/pro ratio myself.

so 90g carbs, 30g pro.

big calvin
11-03-2001, 10:08 AM
im now reading that grape juice sucks for postworkout cause of the frutcose. should i be concerned?

anways, mwb sence u think 25g/50g is better would making a pre workout meal go well with my post workout meal? like both around the same macronutrients but differnt sources.

preworkout:
protein blend
low GI carb

maybe 3-4 cups skim milk

postworkout:
high GI carb
fast acting protein

maybe 1 scoop whey and 1 cup grape juice.

sound better?

heathj
11-03-2001, 12:27 PM
for postworkout try getting something like maltodextrin or dextrose for your carbs.

big calvin
11-03-2001, 03:36 PM
ok health. thanks ill most likly use malto.

heathj
11-03-2001, 03:42 PM
Cheap too, less then $3/pound.

Wizard
11-04-2001, 05:58 AM
Man,don't have more than 50grams of carbs.Don't even try to have more than 50g. of malto or dextrose.

big calvin
11-04-2001, 06:02 AM
u think its to much huh? how many do u think is good? 40g? 30g? 25g each pre and post workout like a TKD?