Good for a laugh

[Severed Ties]

From MESO-Rx Bodybuilding News
Intravenous Steroid Use at Florida State University?
Excerpt:
A STATE UNIVERSITY TEACHES US ANABOLIC STEROIDS ARE TO BE USED INTRAVENOUSLY AND THEY MAY CAUSE "LIMB LOSS"

I'm sure that most MESO-Rx readers are have grown accustomed to the ignorance and misinformation regularly published in mainstream media newspapers regarding anabolic-androgenic steroids (AAS). Every day I read about the exaggerated and overstated (if not completely erroneous) dangers of AAS in the news. So my expectations regarding journalistic reporting is low. But today I came across a media story that is so blatantly stupid and misinformed that even I was shocked and appalled.

"'They make you lose weight, look strong and give you that desired six-pack. In today's society these things have become real important. But steroids also provide a rush, which becomes addictive. You crave the rush, physically and psychologically. This is why most people take steroids intravenously, because it hits them quicker, right before they go to the gym.' [Dan Moore, Health Educator at Florida State University's Thagard Student Health Center.] Intravenously injecting steroids is primarily the reason for HIV/Aids being a side effect of usage, as many steroid users share needles."

Did he say that AAS need to be injected intravenously? It is one thing to ignorant, but it is dangerous and irresponsible to express such information in the capacity of a "student health educator" at a university. By suggesting that the proper way to use AAS is to inject them intravenously, he is providing instruction (albeit unintentionally) to not-so-bright first time users. After all, Mr. Moore is a Florida State University educator, health care professional (and presumably a steroid 'expert'), with experience in drug education and substance abuse treatment. He must know the very basics of how AAS are used and abused?

Does Florida State University have any sort of standards by which "health educators" must abide? If so, I would hope such irresponsible and potentially harmful statements would be sufficient for a censure.

[PowerManDL]

Hoooo boy.....

[geoffgarcia]

I dont think there is anything wrong with what was written.
There is nothing irresponsible or harmful about these statements as far as I can tell.
I think your over reacting.


Did he say that AAS need to be injected intravenously?its implied that there are alternatives: "This is why most people take steroids intravenously"


By suggesting that the proper way to use AAS is to inject them intravenously, he is providing instruction (albeit unintentionally) to not-so-bright first time usersperhaps there is more to the article that you left out...I certainly didn't get this impression from reading the few lines you put up.

The main point the guy is trying to get across is that you can get AIDS/HIV from sharing a needle and that this is a possibility when using IV steroids.
He mentions why users use steroids, and a reason why IV might be preferred by some.
Its in no way a guideback for noobies on how to take them

[Severed Ties]

its implied that there are alternatives: "This is why most people take steroids intravenously"


Well considering AAS will more than likely kill you if injected intravenously yeah I would say there are other methods.

ST

[Shark]

Geoff are you confusing injecting intravenously with simply injecting?? I did at first glance so maybe that is part of the confusion. ST is pointing out that injecting AAS into your veins will most likely kill you and thus is definitly not something that an educator should be imparting as a "normal" or "cool" method of usage. I agree that there is a danger here for uninformed users and as such think that article is definitly out of line.

[Hatred]

*pulls Prop syringe out of Mainline injection port*

[CB]

"Intravenously" and "Intramuscularly" are two way different things. Also now that this has been published, I think we can expect to see headlines in the future regarding newbies going to hospitals because they tried to mainline on their first cycle...LOL!

[PowerManDL]

LMAO @ geoff

There's a reason you're supposed to aspirate before injecting. Juice in the veins = Uh oh!

[Teh BDK]

A rush? Jesus christ. To anybody who has gotten a substantial amount of test in a blood vessel, that rush lasts about 4 seconds and is followed by waking up 10 minutes later on the floor with a fat welt on the back of your head and a baaaad taste in your mouth.
It is not followed by a workout.

A lot of people assume that any drugs administered with a needle are supposed to go into a vein and the doctor, who obviously knows nothing (or as per my post about halo, is intentionally misinforming the populace) apparently thinks this as well. ****ing dip****.

And for the record, I just plain do not believe for one God damned second that 'many' steroid users share needles. That seems to me to be such an outrageous assumption that puts anabolic steroid users in the same vein (no pun intended) as back alley smack addicts.

[chris6969]

Most steroids (test, etc.) are oil based!!
Who the ***** would inject an oil based solution in the veins? LOL

Yeah 2-3 cc's of oil in the vein, can you say heart attack?

Even if its waterbased, in the vein would be so f'ing ******.

Plus factor in that a lot of people use homebrews, vet grade, or underground labs stuff, which should be sterile, but might not be. So in the vein = possible blood infectection or worse (VERY BAD)... in the muscle probably nothing, maybe a cyst or little fever. (not as bad)

[Wikked1]

[Dan Moore, Health Educator at Florida State University's Thagard Student Health Center.] Intravenously injecting steroids is primarily the reason for HIV/Aids being a side effect of usage, as many steroid users share needles."
UHHHM hey who's the guy I lent my B-D 25ga. to who hasn't returned it?

[Titan]

Here is a link to the article. http://www.fsunews.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/09/09/413f6a8c80164?in_archive=1

People flamed the hell out of this dumbass.

[Brawl]

Hmmmm , I never aspirate .

I hope that haitian bi-sexual drug addict returns my syringe , I need to whack some test in my vein .

[the doc]

i cant believe what i just read

[tony touch]

hmmmmmm does anyone realize that the author is our very own spiderman

[Titan]

you kidding tony?

[BHerks]

I dont think there is anything wrong with what was written.
There is nothing irresponsible or harmful about these statements as far as I can tell.
I think your over reacting.

its implied that there are alternatives: "This is why most people take steroids intravenously"

perhaps there is more to the article that you left out...I certainly didn't get this impression from reading the few lines you put up.

The main point the guy is trying to get across is that you can get AIDS/HIV from sharing a needle and that this is a possibility when using IV steroids.
He mentions why users use steroids, and a reason why IV might be preferred by some.
Its in no way a guideback for noobies on how to take them



the fact that taking aas intraveniously will make you extremely ill and possibly kill you makes that article completely ridiculous, thats what is wrong with it, and the fact that there are no psycoactive chemicals in steroids to provide a high....research brotha

[chris6969]

personally I make cocaine, heroine and testosterone mixes and inject 1/2 straight in to my carotid artery (to the big head) and then the other 1/2 of the mix in to my penis (little head). Wow what a rush and a great boner. :thumbup: :clown: j/k

[CB]

Since the author says steroids give you an instant rush, I think I am gonna chop up a few lines of test powder and just snort it. No fuss, no muss, and no needles...LOL!

[chris6969]

Since the author says steroids give you an instant rush, I think I am gonna chop up a few lines of test powder and just snort it. No fuss, no muss, and no needles...LOL!

Good idea! lol.... maybe you can smoke it like crack?!

LMAO... wait, thats going to be in his next article....

"steroid users.... freebasing/smoking steroids... for a no-needle fast rush.... since they all have HIV, they're scared of needles"

[Spiderman]

hmmmmmm does anyone realize that the author is our very own spiderman

Listen hear you fu(Kstick.... I would NEVER EVER write something as insane as that bastard.

[Spiderman]

you kidding tony?

Yes, he is.

[CB]

Hey maybe the author got the idea about mainlining gear from the South Park episode about the Special Olympics. That's the one where the handicapped kid was using gear to win the special olympics.

[tony touch]

come on it seems as if it's been months since i've busted spiderman's balls a little! LOL.

[bodytemple75]

All kidding aside fella's.... i think what idiots like this clown at Florida State are now trying to push into the mainstream sheeple's minds are that steroids are basically the same as hard drugs like crack cocaine and herion now. He is trying to compare and exaggerate/ dowright lie about the drugs since nobody but us gearheads would promore an argument, and either way we end up still looking like druggies to the general public. Afterwards, the general public stays in the clouds. The reason this is getting out of hand IMO, is that *******s like this guy are the prime reason some newbie High School kid reads this article, and then deciedes to follow through. I personally can care less, and don't think High schoolers should even think about using gear, but there are dummies everywhere at every age. Ultimately, in the end it hurts and effects "us adults" who should have the "choice" and it's use decriminilized, and that is what i am concerned with. The government knows most people don't give a **** about steroids, including law enforcement and it's use, and now they see, and are attempting to playing dirty with outright lying about usage to get the general public to treat people who they suspect on gear as outcasts/as herion users and the like.
Funny thing is we never had a problem with people on AAS as far back as i could remember. They were just people who wanted to build up their bodies. Hard working people, now....the mainstream media and government has to "create" this problem. Primarily since they have to show they actually do something with our tax dollars.

This guy really needs a beatin'....

BT

[Khamel]

This is old news.

[Shaggy]

I dont think there is anything wrong with what was written.
There is nothing irresponsible or harmful about these statements as far as I can tell.
I think your over reacting.

its implied that there are alternatives: "This is why most people take steroids intravenously"

perhaps there is more to the article that you left out...I certainly didn't get this impression from reading the few lines you put up.

The main point the guy is trying to get across is that you can get AIDS/HIV from sharing a needle and that this is a possibility when using IV steroids.
He mentions why users use steroids, and a reason why IV might be preferred by some.
Its in no way a guideback for noobies on how to take them

Have you learnt nothing?!

I find it frightening that someone with over 4000 posts can make such a dumb ass post, how severed ties kept his cool is beyond me.

I think you should definitely take time to read more bro, before giving such misinformed answers. tuttut

[Severed Ties]

This is old news.

So is the thread. ;)

ST

[Khamel]

So is the thread. ;)

ST

Considering this guy bumped it:

11-09-2004, 04:19 AM #25
bodytemple75

[Severed Ties]

Did you see the thread last week the got bumped from 3 years ago?...talk about rising from the grave.

ST