Bush signs bill to ban PH's

[SpecialK]

Not sure if this was posted already or not, but I searched and couldn't find anything. Anyway, I'm sure you all remember the bill that went to the house last June and passed easily, well today Bush signed it into law, you can read about it here:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/10/22/sports1855EDT0287.DTL

[moklepaul]

So you have 90 days to stock up on PHs, afterwards, off to Mexico ;) :)

[MaN BoObES]

so what is going to be banned?

[Gizotch]

so what is going to be banned?
http://wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=54357

[Stray]

/saracasm on

About time they removed that poison from the shelves!!!

*takes a long drag off his cigarette and slowly sips his beer*

/sarcasm off

[Herc]

Well, for me this is going to have the exact opposite effect that what our "lawmakers" wanted. I've been putting up with the sides and minimal gains of PHs beacuse I didn't want to break the law, but if I'm going to be risking the same leagal ramifications for some stinking 4-AD as for Tren, Winny, etc. then sign me up for the real stuff.

:soapbox:

[Teufelhund]

I think the prohormone ban will have that effect for a whole lot of folks, Herc.

here are some random thoughts I have on it:

I guess we should expect shortages, increased prices, and a whole lot of fake stuff to start popping up as the gear market becomes flooded with newbies. I just can't imagine that prohormones like 4-AD will be available at all - who would risk the consequences to sell or buy them?

Maybe it will become less likely to get busted since there will be so many more people using?

I wonder what the bodybuilding magazines are going to do... This is going to kill about 3/4 of their advertising content. lol, they'll probably just start pushing even more NO2 and myostatin inhibitors and useless stuff like that.

This kind of legislation will never be undone, either. It would be political suicide.

[HobbesAB]

http://wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=54357

Only 18 substances were banned. Which 18?

[the one]

another reason for me to hate bush

[HahnB]

another reason for me to hate bush

Like any democrat wouldn't have signed the bill :rolleyes:

[Herc]

So I've been raging about this all day - must be the roids I'm taking...

As much as I would like to you can't blame this all on Bush. We can blame it on America becoming more conserative which Bush has been a part of, but for the most part all perfromance enhancers have been doomed for a long time.

Thr majority of the blame is on the Media, but a huge part also goes to the medical community. The Media and Politicians have found it far too attractive and popular to vilify steroids, rather than aproach the issue from a medical stance. And the American people have jumped on board because it's much easier to label people as "cheaters" than to recognise the work they put into maintaining their bodys. "Because if those fit people are cheating than I have an excuse to just get fatter and lazier"

The medical community is the one that has really let us down though. A growing amount of evidence is showing that "sane" steriod use (non BB competitive levels) is not causing the long term medical problems that were predicted. IN FACT many of the side effects of true AASs are less medically troubling than the medical conditions being caused by and increasingly overweight population. With a little guidance from the nation's doctors and less pandering to politicians AASs could have helped the obesity epidemic.

Heck, for the last 40 years women have been able to have control over their hormones via the pill, why shouldn't men have the same right. Isn't intrrupting the reproductive cycle more invasive than building bigger muscles? Ans speaking of invasive in 90 days it will be easier to go to a surgeon, get filleted like a fish, and be loaded up with implants than to get hormones (pro or AAS) to help build real muscles yourself. And probably in less time than it will take to heal from the surgery.

Think about that...

:soapbox:

[toughguywannabe]

good post but do not blame this on bush im a big time bush supporter! so.. if i plan to go to mexico where would i be able to find this kind of thing? maybe just a hospital and fill out a prescription for d-bol? i heard about ppl going to mexico and getting a prescription for extasy so maybe it's the same process probably cheap as hell too.. i heard border patrol isn't even all that strict like they only ask for id's and check ur trunk im not quite sure tho..

[HahnB]

good post but do not blame this on bush im a big time bush supporter! so.. if i plan to go to mexico where would i be able to find this kind of thing? maybe just a hospital and fill out a subscription for d-bol? i heard about ppl going to mexico and getting a subscription for extasy so maybe it's the same process probably cheap as hell too.. i heard border patrol isn't even all that strict like they only ask for id's and check ur trunk im not quite sure tho..

What do you mean a subscription for xstacy? A perscription? There is no place in the world where they perscribe mdma-it has no medical benefits. Unless there is some type of anti-depression drug out there that contains mdma.

[toughguywannabe]

well yah my bad prescription lol i accidently typed subscription im a dork i'll fix the post.. that's jus what somebody told me.. he went into a hospital and said he need ex to help with some illness he had.. the doctor beleived him and got a bottle of it for around 50 bucks not sure why they would take american money but that's jus what this guy told me.. maybe he's just a bull**** liar but u never know..

[ozzyman]

maybe he's just a bull**** liar but u never know..
:scratch: yah think?

[BigNic]

So I've been raging about this all day - must be the roids I'm taking...

As much as I would like to you can't blame this all on Bush. We can blame it on America becoming more conserative which Bush has been a part of, but for the most part all perfromance enhancers have been doomed for a long time.

Thr majority of the blame is on the Media, but a huge part also goes to the medical community. The Media and Politicians have found it far too attractive and popular to vilify steroids, rather than aproach the issue from a medical stance. And the American people have jumped on board because it's much easier to label people as "cheaters" than to recognise the work they put into maintaining their bodys. "Because if those fit people are cheating than I have an excuse to just get fatter and lazier"

The medical community is the one that has really let us down though. A growing amount of evidence is showing that "sane" steriod use (non BB competitive levels) is not causing the long term medical problems that were predicted. IN FACT many of the side effects of true AASs are less medically troubling than the medical conditions being caused by and increasingly overweight population. With a little guidance from the nation's doctors and less pandering to politicians AASs could have helped the obesity epidemic.

Heck, for the last 40 years women have been able to have control over their hormones via the pill, why shouldn't men have the same right. Isn't intrrupting the reproductive cycle more invasive than building bigger muscles? Ans speaking of invasive in 90 days it will be easier to go to a surgeon, get filleted like a fish, and be loaded up with implants than to get hormones (pro or AAS) to help build real muscles yourself. And probably in less time than it will take to heal from the surgery.

Think about that...

:soapbox:

Action like this is not conservative. A true conservative government would much less involved.

[shootermcgavin7]

This kind of legislation will never be undone, either. It would be political suicide.

I agree. No one has the balls that they had in 1933.




Well, for me this is going to have the exact opposite effect that what our "lawmakers" wanted. I've been putting up with the sides and minimal gains of PHs beacuse I didn't want to break the law



I agree 100%. I did a couple of cycles a year of M1T simply because it was the best LEGAL alternative. I think this effect (along with hurting the economy) will force more people to real gear because now:

1) They'll both be illegal

2) Real gear is cheaper

3) Real gear is more effective

[the one]

i blame bush for EVERYTHING!! the browns lost in ot. i blame that on bush.

[Herc]

Action like this is not conservative. A true conservative government would much less involved.

socially conservative yes, Drugs = Bad
Govermentally conservative no. Fereral Regulation = Bad

[LittleJake]

I'll hit the gear next year probably because of this. The only reason I haven't already is because it's more convenient and it's legal. But now, what the hell?

As far as getting it in mexico. Don't get it at Nogales like alot of dumbasses do. The pharmacy owners call border patrol and warn them because it's so close to the border. Then you get busted and they get their stuff back and border patrol gets to do what they want with you and take all your money.

If you're going to Mexico to get anything, go down to Rocky Point or somewhere 60-100 miles deep in Mexico. And there are no hospitals involved. You can walk into a pharmacy with money and just tell then what you want. But use pharmaceutical names, not common names. Instead of walking in and saying you want a bottle of T3 tell 'em you want Cytomel.. etc..

I'm still pissed, I had low sides with PHs and very good gains, but on another note I'm happy cuz now I'll get to spend less to make my muscles bigger, and better results than what I was getting before.