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akomabutisakama
10-31-2004, 09:20 AM
before
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=137371
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=137373
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=137374
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=137375
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=137376

after
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=137382
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=137378
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=137379
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=137380

furious
10-31-2004, 09:29 AM
Doesnt really look like it. EAT bro.

akomabutisakama
10-31-2004, 09:47 AM
im gettin 2.5k aday and around 2.2 on off days

briancurran01
10-31-2004, 09:49 AM
for someone who is as lean as you you should be taking in at least 4000 if you want to gain hell i am cutting at 240 and i take in as many calories as you

briancurran01
10-31-2004, 09:50 AM
you are just as lean as you where.

ryuage
10-31-2004, 09:54 AM
think you smoked a bit too much weed before you started bb'ing... as much as anyone offers their help after you ask for it you dont take the advice...

akomabutisakama
10-31-2004, 10:05 AM
okay
ill try for 3k but i think 4 k is a bit much

Canadian Crippler
10-31-2004, 10:08 AM
This past 4 weeks I've been eating around 4100-4400 cals, 130g fat, 450g carbs, and 210g protein (I know this doesnt add up, I'm just rounding and estimating).

I've gained 5 pounds since, and gained 20 pounds on my squat!

Just keep eating. Eat everything, don't be afraid of carbs and fat.

BigNic
10-31-2004, 10:20 AM
think you smoked a bit too much weed before you started bb'ing... as much as anyone offers their help after you ask for it you dont take the advice...


ryu's crazy. Smoking lots and lots of weed is very good for bb'ing

abwowang
10-31-2004, 10:41 AM
u need to eat a lot more than 2500 calories..

musclerevenge1
10-31-2004, 11:44 AM
yes agreed with all posted before.....not just more calories but well timed calories.....take in 100 grams of dextrose right after your workouts along with some creatine.....then about 20 minutes later down your protein shake. You need to force some glycogen and protein in those babies to get them to grow......Right before bed you need some sort of slow digesting protein as well......Cottage cheese, protein shake made with milk or something to give your body something to draw from during the night.

chris6969
10-31-2004, 02:35 PM
more calories... more protein

txterry
10-31-2004, 02:53 PM
No difference in the before and after pics.
Theres some good advice from others in here. Listen to them.

HahnB
10-31-2004, 03:02 PM
Get a protein mix 2-3 scoops, 3 tbsp of olive oil, 2 tbsp peanut butter, 2-3 cups of milk and 1-2 tbsp of flax oil. Slam 3 of those a day at nearly(or over) a 1000 calories each, eat a few other meals from whole food, drink plenty of water and you will gain weight- I guarantee it.

akomabutisakama
10-31-2004, 03:19 PM
ok how this for 4000 cals

meal1:2c oats, 10 eggwhies, 1scoop pro powder
880 cals 93 pro
meal2:pwo shake 1coats,large bananna, 2scoop protein
770 cals 55g pro
meal3: 2 tbsp pb, 2 chicken breast, 2 slices ww bread
620 60g pro
meal4:7o steak, 2c broccolli, 3/4c oats,1 tbsp pb
600 cals 80g pro
meal5:2c milk, 2scoop whey, 2tbsp natty
600 60gpro

ryuage
10-31-2004, 03:20 PM
that's more like it...

ryuage
10-31-2004, 03:21 PM
I think you need to hang out with the samoans and eat with them...

Nito
10-31-2004, 03:26 PM
Sorry to say but, i see very little gains.

Zearoth
10-31-2004, 04:23 PM
A little bit os size in the biceps, but other gains are negligable.

KiwiBuilder
10-31-2004, 05:00 PM
...take in 100 grams of dextrose right after your workouts along with some creatine...

Are you talking 100g of Dextrose powder mixed in with your shake?

musclerevenge1
10-31-2004, 07:40 PM
i would usually slam 100g's with creatine and some kool aid powdr for flavor (my own concoction) then about 20 min later I'd have my whey protein shake. Then an hour after that eat a whole food meal with carbs and protein.

I'd give it sometime for the dextrose and creatine to be absorbed before tossing the protein in there with it. I never liked the idea of taking to many carbs and protein all at once right after workout.....seems like absorption would suffer.

HahnB
10-31-2004, 07:58 PM
ok how this for 4000 cals

meal1:2c oats, 10 eggwhies, 1scoop pro powder
880 cals 93 pro
meal2:pwo shake 1coats,large bananna, 2scoop protein
770 cals 55g pro
meal3: 2 tbsp pb, 2 chicken breast, 2 slices ww bread
620 60g pro
meal4:7o steak, 2c broccolli, 3/4c oats,1 tbsp pb
600 cals 80g pro
meal5:2c milk, 2scoop whey, 2tbsp natty
600 60gpro

That's nice, but eating a steak everyday is going to get expensive. You won't be able to eat the exact same thing everyday, most likely. Add olive oil to those shakes man, it will really up the calories in them. Flax oil is great too.

ryuage
11-01-2004, 03:56 AM
you'd be surprised, some people get steak for cheap... i know eye of round isnt to much more then a chicken breast and sirloin goes on sale every now and then.

chris6969
11-01-2004, 09:53 AM
I dont see very much difference..... are you getting stronger?

Thats what you should moniter.... work on lifting more weight, more times..... size will come with the strength.

RickTheDestroyer
11-03-2004, 09:38 PM
Why on earth would you only eat the egg whites if you're trying to gain?
Eat whole eggs, they make you big and strong.
Also- protein powder is a nice helper, but you'd be better off using real food for most of your calories. Throw some olive oil on everything, and wash all your meals down with milk or shakes. You ought to gain weight in no time.

Frozenmoses
11-03-2004, 10:05 PM
Why on earth would you only eat the egg whites if you're trying to gain?
Eat whole eggs, they make you big and strong.
Also- protein powder is a nice helper, but you'd be better off using real food for most of your calories. Throw some olive oil on everything, and wash all your meals down with milk or shakes. You ought to gain weight in no time.

Hell, eat the whole damn chicken with eggs still inside.

txterry
11-03-2004, 10:08 PM
Hell, eat the whole damn chicken with eggs still inside.

ROFL

HahnB
11-03-2004, 11:07 PM
I think you can make gains just as well drinking a lot of calories versus eating them. There's nothing wrong with getting 2000 calories of your daily intake from shakes.

RickTheDestroyer
11-04-2004, 10:16 AM
I think you can make gains just as well drinking a lot of calories versus eating them. There's nothing wrong with getting 2000 calories of your daily intake from shakes.

When I made the switch from lots of shakes for calories to mostly real food I gained weight much more easily, but that may not be the case for everyone. I absolutely think that shakes have their place, but I just don't think that they should constitute the bulk of one's daily intake. I do think that it's easier to drink a bunch of calories instead of eating them, but I personally just did not get the results I wanted by doing that.

muscle chic
11-04-2004, 10:47 AM
Yup, you need more food!!! Protein shakes, eggs, chicken, fish, oatmeal, wheat bagels, cottage cheese, big chicken salads, yams ect. You really need more calories.

SirTest2004
11-09-2004, 06:53 AM
a calorie is a calorie...whether it comes from a shake or whole food is irrelevant as far as i can see. anyone who puts more weight on by eating solely whole food than the inclusion of shakes is probaly weighing themselves straight after a meal!

RickTheDestroyer
11-09-2004, 08:47 PM
a calorie is a calorie...whether it comes from a shake or whole food is irrelevant as far as i can see. anyone who puts more weight on by eating solely whole food than the inclusion of shakes is probaly weighing themselves straight after a meal!

Actually, I'd weigh myself several times over the week at the same time each day, post workout, and average the weights for the week. Then I'd compare the averages over a period of months. When I made the transition to real food, I went from being semi-stuck at about 185 to nearly 215 at just under a pound a week. I've gained a little bit of fat, but not a whole lot.
Again, I said that in my case, real food made all the difference.