BP up

[HahnB]

I'm not sure how accurate those machines are that you find at wal mart but I tried it out today and it read 147/92-which is up from 122/84 about 3 weeks into my cycle. Is this a abnormal increase? I've put on 23lbs during the cycle so far with basically no increase in cardio activity which isn't smart. I only have 14 days left so I'm assuming it won't go up much more. Is there any point in taking a small amounts of a nolva now to help control it for the remaining 2 weeks, or should I just wait till pct and include it with my clomid?

For my next cycle I plan on doing d-bol/test/EQ. Would it be wise to be taking some type of anti-e the whole time to help with the bp problem? I would also like to start doing more cardio from now until then. As long as I up my calories to compensate for it I should be ok in terms of losing any new built muscle correct?

[BCC]

If you really want to fend off BP problems use arimidex and hawthorne berry. My blood pressure had been 150/98, then 162/70. After using arimidex and hawthorne in my next cycle I've been at 125/60.

[ryuage]

I dont see any problem... if anything you shouldnt lose muscle when doing cardio anyway seeing as how you are "on" whole reason people use it while dieting.... to maintain/increase muscle even in a caloric deficit... but yah I would say up the cardio some.

[ryuage]

wow damn high... mine is usually below 100/60 haha sometimes in the 80's

[HahnB]

If you really want to fend off BP problems use arimidex and hawthorne berry. My blood pressure had been 150/98, then 162/70. After using arimidex and hawthorne in my next cycle I've been at 125/60.

I have some hawthorne-how many mg do you take daily when you're on, and when you're off? It says to take anywhere from 500-1000mg but I'm assuming that I should use atleast that when on. I hear arimidex can slow gains down some, is there any truth to that?

[chris6969]

I wouldnt put too much faith in those BP machines. You really need to have it check using an adjustable BP cuff. Most of those machines are made for like 11-13" arms. Which most people in this forum have bigger forearms than that. My BP is always high on those machines... like 140/80, but when taken with the correct adjustable cuff its more like 115/70.

[Severed Ties]

The increase is probably more related to the increase in bodyweight than anything else but you should be doing cardio if your cycling.

ST

[BCC]

I have some hawthorne-how many mg do you take daily when you're on, and when you're off? It says to take anywhere from 500-1000mg but I'm assuming that I should use atleast that when on. I hear arimidex can slow gains down some, is there any truth to that?

I use 300mgs per day when I'm on, that seems to do the trick. I don't use anything when off because I don't have BP problems then. Water retention is what destroys my blood pressure. As long as the arimidex dose is moderate (.25-.5mgs eod) there should be no problem with gains. I run it religiously and I don't think it's hurt.

[ryuage]

btw why the eq for the 2nd cycle as opposed to something else?

[HahnB]

btw why the eq for the 2nd cycle as opposed to something else?

I've read a lot of good things about it, especially the increased appetite. Also it's suppose to be on the safer side compared to deca and not as suppressive.

[ryuage]

you'll eventually make your way up to deca/tren :)

[smalls]

I plan on doing some of the heaviest cycles anyone would be willing to do, but I dont plan on every touching deca. So just cause you make progressive increases in drug use etc doesnt mean you have to use certain drugs. I really dont think I will ever use anything but test, tren, dbol, and drol again. I just dont feel deca reaps any special benefits that make it's use necassary for me.

[BCC]

I'm trying deca, just so I can rightfully knock it :D

[Severed Ties]

I'm trying deca, just so I can rightfully knock it :D

Chase is so metal.

ST

[ryuage]

ever thought about running another just test cycle...

what test do you plan to use for this one?