clen

[Proteen]

Why do peeps use clen post-cycle with clomid therapy? I thought clen was catabolic? Why would you want something that would eat away at your muscles after you just cycled?

[The_Chicken_Daddy]

It's anti-catabolic.

where did you read that it's catabolic?


Clen increases the body's temp, forcing the body to burn fat to fuel this. It also retains protein in the cell in the process so it is 'anti-catabolic'.


It is only anabolic if you have beta-3 receptors, and unless your dad screwed a cow, chances are you don't have enough to make any significant difference.

[Proteen]

Somebodys been doing there homework. Planning on doin a cycle chigs?

[The_Chicken_Daddy]

someone has common sense and knows about these things.

[Proteen]

Since when is knowlege of clenbutrol categorized as "common sense"?

[big calvin]

cut and paste:

Clenbuterol is a very interesting and remarkable compound. It is not a steroid hormone but a beta-2-symphatomimetic. Its effects, however, can by all means be compared to those of steroids. Similar to a combination of Winstrol Depot and Oxandrolone, Clenbuterol can cause a solid, highly qualitative muscle growth which goes hand in hand with a significant strength gain. Clenbuterol, above all, has a strong anti-catabolic effect, which means it decreases the rate at which protein is reduced in the muscle cell, consequently causing an enlargement of muscle cells. For this reason, numerous athletes use Clenbuterol after steroid treatment to balance the resulting catabolic phase and thus obtain maximum strength and muscle mass. A further aspect of Clenbuterol is its distinct fat-burning effect. Clenbuterol burns fat without dieting because it increases the body temperature slightly, forcing the body to burn fat for this process. Due to the higher body temperature Clenbuterol magnifies the effect of anabolic/androgenic steroids taken simultaneously, since the protein processing is increased.

Athletes usually take 5-7 tablets, 100-140 mcg per day For women 80-100 mcg/day are usually sufficient, It is important that the athlete begin by taking only one tablet on the first day and then increasing the dosage by one tablet each of the following days until the desired maximum dosage is reached. The compound is usually taken over a period of 8-10 weeks. Since Clenbuterol is not a hormone compound it has no side effects typical of anabolic steroids. For this reason it is also liked by women. Possible side effects of Clenbuterol include restlessness, palpitations, tremor (involuntary trembling of fingers), headache, increased perspiration, insomnia, possible muscle spasms, increased blood pres-sure, and nausea. Note that these side effects are of a temporary nature and usually subside after 8-10 days, despite continuation of the product. In the meantime, Clenbuterol is well distributed on the black market and costs between $0.70 and $1.20 per 0.02 mg tab-let


:D

[The_Chicken_Daddy]

Since i am around computers and the net a lot and have time to waste.

[big calvin]

OMG!!!! :eek: :eek:

LOL :D :D

[Tadger]

lol.

[YatesNightBlade]

*nods* .. good gains.

[Spiderman]

:eek:....good job....LMAO

[Proteen]

Hey, guys! You aren't gonna believe this! I'm on the 2nd day of my Anavar cycle, and OH MY GOD! I can REALLY feel it!!! My chest was pumped so much last workout! I gained weight, too! I went from a bodyweight of 95lbs to 95.000001lbs!!! AWESOME!!

Real mature gyno. Good way to make fun of someone and gain attention at the same time, props to you. As for myself, everytime I post or try to help, I either get flamed or edited. So, without further ado, this will be my last post at WBB. Happy holidays everybody.

[YatesNightBlade]

You've been Flamed 116 times ?????

Bye bye.

[Twiztid]

Originally posted by Proteen


Real mature gyno. Good way to make fun of someone and gain attention at the same time, props to you. As for myself, everytime I post or try to help, I either get flamed or edited. So, without further ado, this will be my last post at WBB. Happy holidays everybody.

and this is supposed to be a friendly community?
shhhhhhh.. don't let the newbiws read this post.

C'mon, you all know the newbies hit the ANABOLIC ZONE first!

:rolleyes:

[Gyno Rhino]

Hehehe. It's all in jest. If someone is gonna post something as blatantly moronic as what Proteen did, he honestly deserves it. There's a difference between flaming someone for no reason, and between goofin' with somebody who dishes out bad advice and "feels his anavar" in two days.

[Severed Ties]

Hey Gyno Rhino

I bet he felt it on the FIRST day.....if he was using it as a supository that is.....

ST

[Gyno Rhino]

Hehe.. Yeah, his dealer played a little trick.. Got him to try a size "12 inch" needle. Those "hot beef injections" really do deliver oil-based better, eh?

[beercan]

Originally posted by big calvin
cut and paste:
. Its effects, however, can by all means be compared to those of steroids. .



No they can't. That's absurd. Clen is overpriced crap. For the author to compare it to winny and anavar is even more absurd. Take 6 ephedrine tabs and tell me you don't get shaky hands.

This is the one case where a legal supplement (ECA) is better and cheaper than a drug, yet people still take the illegal drug.

[the doc]

really can that is a good point, have you tried both?

ECA worked much better for you?

[beercan]

Yea man, I mean clen is OK, but for the price and hassle invloved in getting it, it just doesn't make sense to me.

I think if it was legal, ECA would be more popular. I've gotten much better results from it, and so have friends of mine. People seem to think that just being illegal constitutes a miracle drug.

[Severed Ties]

Personally I think clen is garbage, not to mention it sets you up for fat gain after you finish.

The two biggest problems with it are that it causes your body to down-regulate bete-2 receptors after 2 weeks, where ECA doesn't. So when you come off clen your metabolism is slower than normal

second it decreases insulin sensitivity which promotes fat storage, so you are bound to gain some fat when you stop using it.

So in 2 weeks you accomplish what you could in 4 with ECA however ECA has far less side effects, their is no crash afterwards, and your not in a position to gain back half the fat you just lost.

ST

[Reinier]

ok ST thanks i was just going to ask how the 2 compare.
what would the dosing/effect price of eca be?

[Severed Ties]

Reiner I don't know exactly what you mean but 3 servings a day of ECA costs less than a dollar per day, an is very safe at the label dose.

ST

[Reinier]

o thas cool. just when is something an eca?
isn`t hydroxycut one?
just how much do these aid fat loss?

[Severed Ties]

ECA is ephedra, caffeine, and asprin. Mind you the it's unclear if asprin does anything in the stack, I don't believe it does but regardless.

Hydroxycut, Xenedrine, Stacker 2, Ripped Fuel, Diet Fuel, MD-6...are just a few. Just about every supplement company makes one all claiming theirs to be better than others, their all pretty much the same.

They aid in fatloss by increasing metabolism through thermogenesis and most people find ECA reduces appetite. So if your diet is order than ECA will quicken the process, however it's not a magic pill.

like any supplement, it helps...but it's still only 10% of the equation.

ST

[Reinier]

ok so you think its worth the money for a student with not all that much money lying around
?

[beercan]

Yes if you desire what severed ties said happens when you supp with eca