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liirum
01-26-2005, 09:16 AM
5`9 tall
190 pounds weight
age 27
weightlifting experience 10years

my first cycle..plan
weeks 1-4..nandrolone decanonate 400mg per week

weeks 5-8..dianabol 30mg per day
..test.enan 500mg per week

weeks 9-12..test.enan 500mg per week
..trenb.ace 75mg every other day

thanks

Wikked1
01-26-2005, 10:10 AM
First Cycle?
Keep the Deca,the Dbol,and the tren for another cycle later on.
If this indeed your first cycle you'll puff up like a 10 cent balloon no matter what you do,I think 12 weeks of Test E and a proper PCT would do you well. (providing you're eating enough)...there is a PCT planned right?

smalls
01-26-2005, 11:06 AM
I think you would be much better off just running test at 750mg the entire 12 and dbol the first 4 or 5. Save the deca and tren for next time. What # cycle is this, what are you main goals?

Franco
01-26-2005, 11:25 AM
I see what you're trying to do. As this is your first cycle keep it relatively simple

Week 1-10 500mg Test Enth
Week 1-4 Dbol @25 or 30mg.

Pct starting two weeks after your last enth shot

Can you outline a typical days diet and what your training routine looks like.

Severed Ties
01-26-2005, 11:33 AM
I think you need to focus on your diet.

ST

Gabrielle
01-26-2005, 06:17 PM
listen to the advice given on this thread..and maybe perhaps doing some more research..sorry for being blunt

liirum
01-27-2005, 01:03 AM
what is pct? :bash:

Franco
01-27-2005, 02:33 AM
Post cycle therapy. Keep on reading and train naturally until you fully understand everything that you could be possibly putting into your body

liirum
01-27-2005, 03:06 AM
what typical pct contains?

fen2zla
01-27-2005, 05:35 AM
what typical pct contains?

Read up on everything you can find about AAS before you even consider starting a cycle. To be blunt if your asking that question you're nowhere near ready for it.

smalls
01-27-2005, 11:35 AM
I retract my statement completely. I thought he had some under his belt.

majsi98
01-29-2005, 04:52 PM
Not to be rude but that is one hell of a bad planned cycle. Your cycle sucks sorry!

1. Why take deca for 4 weeks ? Deca has a very long ester should be adm inistered longer then 8 weeks
2. Why start dbols in the middle of cycle? Usually dbols are taken to kick start your cycle. It makes sense thus to take them for the first 4 weeks.
3. Holy god test for just 4 weeks? What were you thinking? Again test enanthate has a long ester
4. Tren for a first time user? DO you realise you have to inject eod?
5. You dont know what is pct and yet you expect you keep your gains afterwards?
6. I hope you also realise that eating habits are different on gear?

Anyway. You did not do your homework well so you should go back to the drawing board and do more research. From your post you seem you need a lot!

Hatred
01-29-2005, 08:24 PM
,f14/\/\3d!!!!11111

Brawl
01-30-2005, 10:21 AM
I have just about had it with all this "new cycle whatchamacallit " .

Stop the nonsense ...

we need a sticky that says

" LISTEN UP B*TCHES , 1ST CYCLES ARE TEST ONLY , DONT ASK ANY OTHER STUPID QUESTIONS "


How do all these new people totally eliminate test from their cycles ?

majsi98
01-30-2005, 03:02 PM
I have just about had it with all this "new cycle whatchamacallit " .

Stop the nonsense ...

we need a sticky that says

" LISTEN UP B*TCHES , 1ST CYCLES ARE TEST ONLY , DONT ASK ANY OTHER STUPID QUESTIONS "


How do all these new people totally eliminate test from their cycles ?


Thats right a test only cycle is one hell of a solid cycle for a 1st timer

BigMatt
01-31-2005, 09:42 AM
I have just about had it with all this "new cycle whatchamacallit " .

Stop the nonsense ...

we need a sticky that says

" LISTEN UP B*TCHES , 1ST CYCLES ARE TEST ONLY , DONT ASK ANY OTHER STUPID QUESTIONS "


How do all these new people totally eliminate test from their cycles ?

Agreed about the sticky but don't put LISTEN UP B*TCHES or STUPID QUESTIONS in the title...

Something would go like


First Cycle:

Testosterone Enanthate/Cypionante

1-12 Week 500mg/2 injection per week

Followed by PCT:Clomid/Nolva

Put that in a Sticky

BigMatt
01-31-2005, 09:47 AM
6. I hope you also realise that eating habits are different on gear?


I disagree

Eating is as important wether your "echanced" or Natural.
The diet is still the key.
AAS is just an "aid"

liirum
01-31-2005, 01:07 PM
as my post got so much feedback most negative :thumbup:
here is the post where I got my cycle thanks for the feedback though
www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/rea/030224.htm

POPS
01-31-2005, 01:24 PM
Like Brawl Says Test @ 500mg/ew Only

POPS
01-31-2005, 01:26 PM
as my post got so much feedback most negative :thumbup:
here is the post where I got my cycle thanks for the feedback though
www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/rea/030224.htm
That site SUCCKKS

liirum
01-31-2005, 02:18 PM
Agreed about the sticky but don't put LISTEN UP B*TCHES or STUPID QUESTIONS in the title...

Something would go like


First Cycle:

Testosterone Enanthate/Cypionante

1-12 Week 500mg/2 injection per week

Followed by PCT:Clomid/Nolva

Put that in a Sticky
is there any idea to take arimidex during the cycle you mentioned above and same question about HCG?

majsi98
01-31-2005, 04:03 PM
I disagree

Eating is as important wether your "echanced" or Natural.
The diet is still the key.
AAS is just an "aid"


I never said that you should relax your eating habits while off. However you do have to realise that you are able to assimilate more protein and you do need more calories on gear , then when off.

Hatred
02-01-2005, 02:52 PM
If anything Diet is more important during post cycle.