fina

[BgScoop]

Well I was going to do a sust EQ D-bol cycle but money has run pretty thin as of late and I really wanted to start my first cycle before chrismas. I know that a lot of people say that fina isnt a beginner drug but some people have also used it in their first cycle and have had great results and very mild sides if any. I was just wondering what you guys would say about using fina in my first cycle and what you would use with it. I figured Id use fina and winny for 6 weeks but Im not sure what to use with it. I was thinking sust because I can get it real cheap and I heard that test works great with fina. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[Tadger]

Yeah, I have a good friend... a couple actually, that had really good results with fina. What kind of dosages are you looking at?

I'd recommend sumthin like....
week 1-8 test 500mg
week 1-6 fina 100mg e/o/d
week 1-8 winny 50mg/day or e/o/d

Hell, if you can get some prop, use that when converting your fina. If you gotta stick yourself every other day already you may as well.

I dunno... as far as test goes use whatever is cheapest per milligram. All that changes is how often you have to inject. The prop enhanced fina would be convenient though.

[BgScoop]

I was thinking along those lines for dosages, except for the test, I was figuring Id go with sust and use 250mg/week, unless you think 500 would be a lot better. As for the prop, to tell you the truth Im afraid of it, one of my friends who used it said hed rather light his ass on fire than ever use prop again, he was in pain for weeks.

[Tadger]

Hmm. I'd keep the test higher. You shouldn't see any problems at 500mg/week... but either way you'll grow. I'd go with some enanthate or cyp. That way you only need to inject twice a week. I still think sust is overrated and a bit pricey. Just go with whatever is cheapest. I never had a problem with prop when I used it. I felt it right quick... but I wasn't ever sore from it. I wasn't sore from sust either. I thought that the deca (norma) hurt the most. Maybe I'm just an oddity though.

[BgScoop]

Well I just found out that I cant get any winny, is there anything else that I could use to counter the progerterone side besides winny?

[Tadger]

Hmm. I've heard that RU486 can be used... but I really don't know too much about it. Unless you're really sensitive to progesterone then it shouldn't be a problem. Because trenbolone acetate has such a short halflife, just adjust the dosage accordingly if you notice any problems. I'd say hit the nolva first and drop it for a few days. Gradually increase the dosage on your fina until you know what your limits are. Make sure you hit the nolva as well just in case it's the test causing the problem.

[SquareHead]

Ru486 err... isnt that the morning after drug?

[galileo]

Sure is.

[Budiak]

Its different from the morning after pill because RU486(Mifepristone) is an abortifacient(terminates the embryo), while the 'morning after pill' as it is commonly known, is simply a large dose of the same steroids contained in normal birth control pills and it either stops ovulation, irritates the lining of the uterus(rejecting the possibly fertilized egg) or delays ovulation so that no egg may be fertilized. It can be used anywhere up to 72 hours past intercourse, which is I guess possible conception.
RU486 causes the termination of the embryo anywhere from 49-60 days after the point of conception, which is definitely not 'the morning after'. The RU486 drug( Thats why its called the 'abortion' pill, and is often incorrectly referred to as the 'morning after' pill.) The RU486 blocks progesterone receptors in the uterine lining. The progesterone is necessary to keep the uterine lining healthy, and without the supply of oxygen, nutrients, and blood from the uterus, the embryo quickly dies.
It is usually stacked with a drug called 'cytotec' which causes intense uteral contractions, so if the RU-486(60% effective) didnt get the embryo, the contractions from the cytotec sure as **** will, since in the course of such contractions, the fetus is ejected into a flip-top wastebasket labelled 'sins'.

I hope I said something worthwhile.


I dont know if the **** will work for BBs because I dont know that it does anything to stop progesterone, and if it works on progesterone receptors not uterus-specific.

[Belial]

Interesting. See, it sounds to me like the progesterone receptor binding, then, is tissue-specific, not systemic. I've heard very mixed opinions on whether or not RU-486 will do ANYTHING to prevent "progesterone-induced gyno". The weight of actual research and extrapolation of said research (since no direct tests have ever been done) all seems to indicate it does nothing.

But... I haven't read anything on the subject in a few months.

[Pup]

Another thing i've heard of for progesterone gyno is bromocriptine...just a thought :)

[PowerManDL]

ST told me not to mess with Ru.....unless he wants to meet teh Bushmaster too