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jack_of_all
03-06-2005, 07:33 PM
what would win between a tiger or a bear?
Jabberwocky
03-06-2005, 07:41 PM
Dude, a bear.
Hockey66
03-06-2005, 07:48 PM
Bear
Titanium_Jim
03-06-2005, 08:03 PM
A tiger would tear a black bear apart. A brown, grizzly, polar, or kodiak bear would take a tiger pretty easily under most circumstances. Black bears are only 5' tall when they stand on their hind legs, and are scared more easily than other kinds of bears. Being that small, combined with not having cat-like speed and reflexes, makes me pretty sure any full-grown healthy tiger could take just about any black bear.
Hopetobefit
03-06-2005, 08:04 PM
Most likely the bear, but tigers are cooler. =P
ReturnedFire
03-06-2005, 08:06 PM
lol me and my friend were just talking about this couple days ago :D
how much do each weigh? all i know is it would be crazy...
BigTA1982
03-06-2005, 08:10 PM
I really doubt a tiger would attack a bear or vise versa but I would put my money on the underdog the tiger.
mrelwooddowd
03-06-2005, 10:33 PM
Didn't they have this debate on The Tom Green Show? I believe it was a bear and a puma that time.
Anyway..the winner would be the "Liger"..it's a cross between a lion and a tiger. It's pretty much my favorite animal.
JSully
03-06-2005, 10:35 PM
Didn't they have this debate on The Tom Green Show? I believe it was a bear and a puma that time.
Anyway..the winner would be the "Liger"..it's a cross between a lion and a tiger. It's pretty much my favorite animal.
LMAO!!! :bow:
mrelwooddowd
03-06-2005, 10:44 PM
Man I love that movie.
Optimum08
03-06-2005, 10:46 PM
damnit mrelwood...u took my choice for the winner...the LIGER...
mrelwooddowd
03-06-2005, 10:47 PM
ligers kick *****..as soon as I saw the thread, that came to mind..napoleon dynamite owns my thoughts these days
Optimum08
03-06-2005, 11:00 PM
haha i haven't seen it yet....i know i know...ill see it sometime here coming up...
HahnB
03-06-2005, 11:03 PM
lol me and my friend were just talking about this couple days ago :D
how much do each weigh? all i know is it would be crazy...
Siberian tigers can weigh over 800lbs. The average for a male is about 700lbs. The only bear that would be a good match would be a big grizzly or polar bear. They did this once on animal face off on the animal planet and the 1500lb grizzly bear won. The bear has too much size to be killed by the tiger more than likely, but I would rather run into a bear in the wild than a tiger.
MrWebb78
03-06-2005, 11:06 PM
I would choose a tiger.
kbber
03-07-2005, 01:08 AM
go the tiger
Southern Beast
03-07-2005, 02:24 AM
Siberian tigers can weigh over 800lbs. The average for a male is about 700lbs. The only bear that would be a good match would be a big grizzly or polar bear. They did this once on animal face off on the animal planet and the 1500lb grizzly bear won. The bear has too much size to be killed by the tiger more than likely, but I would rather run into a bear in the wild than a tiger.
Yeah, I'm glad someone mentioned that they already simulated this on Animal Faceoff, and the bear won.
I'm all for the tiger.
Gyno Rhino
03-07-2005, 02:34 AM
Yeah, I'm glad someone mentioned that they already simulated this on Animal Faceoff, and the tiger won.
I'm all for the tiger.
Dude, the bear won on that show.
I'd go with a big ole grizz anyday of the week over a tiger. Bears have UNBELIEVEABLE strength.
Southern Beast
03-07-2005, 03:01 AM
Dude, the bear won on that show.
I'd go with a big ole grizz anyday of the week over a tiger. Bears have UNBELIEVEABLE strength.
Oops, I'm a dumbass sometimes. I meant the bear won, although I was for the tiger. I need sleep.
Thanks for quickly catching my mistakes. :thumbup:
jack_of_all
03-07-2005, 05:17 AM
im rooting for the tiger. average of the siberians is like 700# but only kodiak bears or genetic freaks get much over 1000#.
the thing about this argument is, a tiger has more speed yet the speed and reflexes of a bear are very surprisingly fast. a tiger is also surprisingly strong compared to a bear. tigers have the largest canines of any land carnivore, if anything is gonna clamp through a bears neck its a tiger, and i think it can. also, i dont think the bear would be able to stand up and swat the tiger as it came, killing it, because the tiger is a solatary creature and unlike a lion doesnt run straight into its enemies strikes. the tiger would attack low and try to get behind the bear eventually doing so before it got clapped.
i dont trust the discovery channel anymore, they seem like the same people who try to discourage me from fighting w/ chimpanzees ; )
anyway, maybe we can work out a different matchup if the general consensus is bear.
a wolverine or a black bear?
J450n
03-07-2005, 05:31 AM
1)Tiger. Jump on the bears hairy ass back and chomp on it's noggin'...
2)Black bear.
In south korea they do this all the time, they put very large bears and male lions - male tigers in cages and film them fight for their life. You can download them on south korean sites, not sure how to locate them.
But in Russia-Siberia, its common once in a while for biologists to find that Female siberian tigers hunt and kill female bears, its a very strange thing, and the Tiger even eats the bear meat. But a 1400lbs kodiak bear, I think it pretty much destroys everything that can walk.
They did this once on animal face off on the animal planet and the 1500lb grizzly bear won. The bear has too much size to be killed by the tiger more than likely, but I would rather run into a bear in the wild than a tiger.
Saw it too. I knew someone was gonna mention it before me :shoot: But seriously, I do think the bear would win. Can't get to it's vitals or crush it.
HahnB
03-07-2005, 07:03 AM
Saw it too. I knew someone was gonna mention it before me :shoot: But seriously, I do think the bear would win. Can't get to it's vitals or crush it.
They had a interesting fact on that show if you caught it. Based on the speed and size of a tiger if one was to hit you running at full speed it would be the equivalent of getting hit by a NFL linebacker running 80 MPH.
And also in the cases were tigers and bears have killed humans, the humans didnt stand no chance, they were just killed and finished quickly and effective.
Frankster
03-07-2005, 07:37 AM
Siberian tigers can weigh over 800lbs. The average for a male is about 700lbs. The only bear that would be a good match would be a big grizzly or polar bear. They did this once on animal face off on the animal planet and the 1500lb grizzly bear won. The bear has too much size to be killed by the tiger more than likely, but I would rather run into a bear in the wild than a tiger.
yeah in the simulation, the bear broke the tiger's spine.
Guido
03-07-2005, 08:59 AM
I lyke Ligerz thay ar fun. :D
AllUp
03-07-2005, 10:58 AM
Oi, in terms of strength and endurance bear>tiger EZ. Once the tiger gets pinned/cornered by the bear it would be over seeing as bears are hella heavy and seem to have more bulk in terms of mass.
jack_of_all
03-07-2005, 01:59 PM
a siberian tiger weighing 800 lbs can jump like 30 feet from a standstill. thats power. if it got cornered by a bear it could easily knock it over.
ive never seen the discover channel thing but talked to a friend about it today. apparently it also says a walrus would own a polar bear. im sorry, but even though i can see where they are coming from that takes all credibility.
also, the 1500 lb kodiak bears are pretty rare so lets look at it this way.
700 lb siberian tiger vs 900 lb grizz. i think people forget that when vs a bear a tiger, unlike a lion, probably wont charge blindly. it will focus on not getting hit then go for the throat when it sees a solid opening. Being a solitary predator it fights defensively and waits for an opening.
Southern Beast
03-07-2005, 02:00 PM
I still think a tiger would whip a bears ass, as long as it's not too much of a size difference.
Only if I could get a bear, a tiger, and a cage ...
AllUp
03-07-2005, 02:05 PM
yes, but without getting technical (siberian tiger vs kodiac/grizzly), a regular bear vs a regular tiger, the bear would likely win as normal tigers are speed, surprise and nothing more. as soon as the bear turns around and pimpslaps the tiger down with its paw it would be done methinks.
jack_of_all
03-07-2005, 02:05 PM
not to change the subject...
a wolverine or a spotted hyena.
hyena is like twice the size, but wolverines are amazingly skilled in fighting and staggeringly fearless vs large predators. they often chase bears from their kills.
StevenEric
03-07-2005, 02:08 PM
Given the current news I'm putting my money on our third competitor...the uncaged hoped up monkey.
Southern Beast
03-07-2005, 02:28 PM
not to change the subject...
a wolverine or a spotted hyena.
hyena is like twice the size, but wolverines are amazingly skilled in fighting and staggeringly fearless vs large predators. they often chase bears from their kills.
I'd go with wolverine. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm led to believe hyenas do most of their living amongst packs, so if was a one-on-one fight, they'd be out of their element. And against a great fighter.
And LOL @ monkey comment. They'd win by going straight for the genitals. :\
ReturnedFire
03-07-2005, 02:28 PM
damn bears are heavy mothas... yeah the bear would destroy the tiger :(
HahnB
03-07-2005, 03:15 PM
i think people forget that when vs a bear a tiger, unlike a lion, probably wont charge blindly. it will focus on not getting hit then go for the throat when it sees a solid opening. Being a solitary predator it fights defensively and waits for an opening.
You're also forgetting that a Lion is a much more experienced fighter than the average tiger. That's why in their simulation of a Lion vs. a Tiger the lion won because of it's superior fighting experience and its mane protects its neck. I think the Lion would be a better match despite it's smaller size. I'm not exactly sure whey they put the tiger up against the bear when the lion beat the tiger-they should atleast make sense with their nonsense:) Alsok, if you would have seen the one with the walruss and the polar bear you can easily see how a walruss could win.
yes, but without getting technical (siberian tiger vs kodiac/grizzly), a regular bear vs a regular tiger, the bear would likely win as normal tigers are speed, surprise and nothing more. as soon as the bear turns around and pimpslaps the tiger down with its paw it would be done methinks.
A bengal tiger still weighs a good 550+ lbs. I would put my money on the tiger versus any bear except a huge brown or polar bear.
Hopetobefit
03-07-2005, 03:16 PM
1200 pounds?? I think thats about time to start a cut.
jack_of_all
03-07-2005, 03:25 PM
lion beats tiger because he's aggressive. lion loses to bear because he throws himself right into the death blow. its not that hes better than a tiger, its that vs a tiger he is superior because of his disposition yet vs a bear it is a negative thing.
@ southern beast: the hyena would be a pack animal but keep in mind these mutha's fight lions sometimes. also, a kid used to go to my middle school. he had come from africa and was the only one of his family alive. they were in a refugee camp when a group of hyenas arrived and slaughtered his entire family but him and his father who died later that day. apparently he had a brother who lived in america and was his only surviving family member.
hyenas are ruthlessly violent animals but i too would bet on the wolverine and think it would win easily. smaller weasels (kin of the wolverine) often live off of rats and other animals that weigh 3X as much. i know that these are rats and the like, but if the only thing that makes a rat so non-threatening is its size.
edit: btw i heard a story of an otter that fought a german shepherd and killed it easily.
HahnB
03-07-2005, 03:33 PM
lion beats tiger because he's aggressive. lion loses to bear because he throws himself right into the death blow. its not that hes better than a tiger, its that vs a tiger he is superior because of his disposition yet vs a bear it is a negative thing.
Not really sure what you mean because both cats are very similar. Lions stalk their prey just as tigers do, male lions too not just females. Male lions are often alone during much of their life- before they join a pride and after they are booted from one so they do hunt on their own. Both animals would have similar if not identical fighting techniques against the bear.
emjlr3
03-07-2005, 03:39 PM
id go with the bear, just think of it this way, Marius Pudzianowksi vs Me is about the comparison....no contest
yea im pretty sure im a good bit faster and more agile, but once he got a hold of me, gg.......but, could the bear ever catch the tiger to kill it, that I doubt if the tiger did not attack, maybe it could tire the bear out then go in for the kill, that prolly being it's only chance i think
ah yes and i got no idea about the wolverine one, are they really that beast?
NEW TOPIC, RHINO VS ANYTHING??????? GG ANYTHING
A Rhino VS a very very gay chinese man.
The Rhino obviously has the strength and power advantage
But! the very very gay chinese man will at times seem hilarious, making the Rhino loose they very important aspect of focusing on the fight.
AllUp
03-07-2005, 05:56 PM
In a natural scenario assuming the tiger had the run on the bear I would think the tiger may pwn it, as it would likely go for the neck- but a straight outta the cage 1 on 1 you gotta root for the bear.
I mean, their hides being as thick as they are and the fact that they've been caught on tape pushing cars is pretty scary. :D
Belial
03-07-2005, 06:00 PM
Tiger.
It's a predator, the entire body is designed to track, stalk, run, and kill. A bear's size and strength may be an excellent deterrent, but with the exception of a polar bear (which would change my vote), bears do not often attack and kill other animals.
A tiger's instincts would tell it where to attack for the death blow; its superior agility and reflexes could save it in a face to face battle, and it would likely have better endurance in a fight (for the simple reason that it's designed for it). Not to say it would be the same outcome every time; a full grown grizzly or kodiak is an extremely powerful animal which could easily land a lucky swat and break the smaller cat's spine.
But I'd still go with the hunter/killer.
as I mentioned before, Siberian Tigers sometimes kill bears in the wild!
Blood&Iron
03-07-2005, 06:03 PM
Superman.
Wait, wrong question...
ReturnedFire
03-07-2005, 06:35 PM
A Rhino VS a very very gay chinese man.
The Rhino obviously has the strength and power advantage
But! the very very gay chinese man will at times seem hilarious, making the Rhino loose they very important aspect of focusing on the fight.
lmao :D that's great
what about the very very gay chinese man and the Rhino, is the bets on?
Jabberwocky
03-07-2005, 07:00 PM
My uncle was a gay chinese man who died after being attacked by a rhino, I find your comments very insensitive.
Hopetobefit
03-07-2005, 07:20 PM
My uncle was a gay chinese man who died after being attacked by a rhino, I find your comments very insensitive.
lol...
jack_of_all
03-07-2005, 07:22 PM
Rhino vs Hippo, place your bets.
jack_of_all
03-07-2005, 07:27 PM
nvm, checked encarta. anyone who sees these weights knows the winner immediately...
Don't foget, a hyena has the strongest jaws of any animal in this world. He gets a lock, whatever he has ahold of breaks or doesn't get free.
Southern Beast
03-07-2005, 07:35 PM
Rhino vs Hippo, place your bets.
I checked the weights, too, and saw the hippo can get up to 7000 lbs., and one species of rhino can get up to 8000 lbs. Those are some heavy ass animals.
But assuming they're the same size, I'll go with the hippo. I heard they're aggressive as hell, and kill tons of people every year. That big mouth with those huge teeth seems like it'd be an advantage. The rhino has that horn, but it seems like it'd be hard to penetrate the skin unless he has a really good running start.
I'd love to see some of these animals go at it.
jack_of_all
03-07-2005, 07:41 PM
what i saw had the average rhino at over a ton less than the average hippo, what is the 4 ton one?
Hopetobefit
03-07-2005, 07:43 PM
http://www.StupidVideos.com/?VideoID=509
Which penguin do you think won?
jack_of_all
03-07-2005, 07:43 PM
ooh apparently there is actually some controversy as to what the worlds second largest land animal is...
http://members.aol.com/HippoPage/hrquest.htm
Southern Beast
03-07-2005, 07:47 PM
what i saw had the average rhino at over a ton less than the average hippo, what is the 4 ton one?
It didn't say, it was just like "... one species is known to get to 8000 lns". It was some dumbass kids zoo site.
Nevermind anyways. I just looked at that site you posted and it said the white rhino, lol. That'd be an interesting matchup, but I say hippo still.
Lobster vs. Crab?
Southern Beast
03-07-2005, 08:25 PM
You guys remember that huge ass bear that one dude shot a few years back? Check out that frickin' paw in the pic.
http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/bearhunt.asp
Hopetobefit
03-07-2005, 08:32 PM
12'6" 1600lbs?? He's huge.
Frankster
03-07-2005, 09:38 PM
You guys remember that huge ass bear that one dude shot a few years back? Check out that frickin' paw in the pic.
http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/bearhunt.asp
I remember reading up on that and it was faked.
mrelwooddowd
03-07-2005, 09:44 PM
If I was the bear, I would grab the Tiger by the scruff of the neck, or tie a rope around it's belly so it would lose its balance. Everyone knows cats are vulnerable in those places.
mrelwooddowd
03-07-2005, 09:45 PM
OH!!!!
Walker Texas Ranger fought off a bear in that bank robbery/airplane getaway-crash/guy with disfigured face episode! Remember that???
But that was Walker..Walker+Bear=pwned
jack_of_all
03-08-2005, 05:15 AM
lobster vs crab? when at similar weight i find the crabs design to make it much more adequately armored. MAYBE the lobster could pinch of the crabs legs (but nothing else). the crab might be able to pinch off the lobsters legs and even its tail secions which would probablyl kill it if he got enough.
AllUp
03-08-2005, 07:01 AM
Probably Lobster if they are both stationary more or less. On land no contest that teh crab=teh win due to mobility.
AllUp
03-08-2005, 07:03 AM
OH!!!!
Walker Texas Ranger fought off a bear in that bank robbery/airplane getaway-crash/guy with disfigured face episode! Remember that???
But that was Walker..Walker+Bear=pwned
Damn right dogg, my boy walker can do that s***! =D
HahnB
03-08-2005, 09:38 AM
That bear in that pic is a beast. You guys should check out the movie "the edge"-pretty good bear movie with anthony hopkins where 3 guys get stranded in the woods with a huge grizzly after them.
Southern Beast
03-08-2005, 09:43 AM
That bear is a hoss. I bet that mofo could toss some serious iron around in the weightroom. That sounds like a good movie, HahnB, I might check it out soon.
Oh, and I go with crab.
HanhB I saw the movie, damn the bear was huge.
Jabberwocky
03-08-2005, 09:58 AM
remember the bear in Great Outdoors, good stuff.
HahnB
03-08-2005, 09:58 AM
HanhB I saw the movie, damn the bear was huge.
Yea good movie, the ghost and the darkness was better though. True story too where 2 lions terrorized a railroad camp is tsavo,africa.
Jabberwocky
03-08-2005, 10:11 AM
Indeed I was addicted to ghost and the darkness for a while.
jack_of_all
03-08-2005, 03:25 PM
i saw that movie when i was like 7 or 8 and it scared the crap out of me... lol
i should try and watch the edge sometime
Yeah that 1600lb bear could probably squat an easy 2500lbs, a little work and that beast would end up with a 3000 ATF squat. lol I'd put my bets on the Rhyno heavy ass mofo at 6000lbs would crush mostly everything.
ReturnedFire
03-09-2005, 01:42 PM
Yea good movie, the ghost and the darkness was better though. True story too where 2 lions terrorized a railroad camp is tsavo,africa.
that movie got so trashed by critics. i think ebert gave it 0 stars :D
i remember it being pretty good, but i saw it like 7 years ago or soemthing...
:scratch:
jack_of_all
03-09-2005, 03:50 PM
critics dont know shi*
emjlr3
03-09-2005, 10:04 PM
i saw that too, i thought it was bad ass, but then again i was also like 8 or so
btw, was that bear for real or not??? cuz if so that thing was a hoss
o yea and the rhino vs a hippo, rhinos basically have a sheat of armor on, on land, they would kick a hippos ass, the hippo would not be able to do a thing, ive heard that like the average gun cant penetrate a rhinos hide, in water the hippo would win easy cuz hed get the legs and i doubt rhinos are to agile of swimmers
so in conclusion, land = rhino wins, water=hippo wins, but then again the rhino would never be in water so i figure it would win more often
btw, maryland blue crab pwns all other crustachions(if that is what it is?)
mrelwooddowd
03-09-2005, 10:44 PM
I was thinking today..what about a Gorilla and a Bear?
HahnB
03-09-2005, 11:40 PM
The bear in the edge was real, it was a trained bear that is actually friendly with people.
They did a black rhino versus a elephant on animal face off and the 12,000lb elephant whipped it's ass:)
If it was a bear versus a gorilla I would bet on the bear if you're talking about a big grizzly or polar bear. Gorillas are strong, but they only weigh 400lbs-that's no match for a 1500lb bear.
Southern Beast
03-10-2005, 03:14 AM
There was an interesting story on one of those hippo websites. It said a rhino once went down to the river to get a drink, and all of a sudden a hippo popped out from the water, grabbed the rhino's leg, and pulled him under. The hippo tore the rhino to pieces, leaving nothing but some scattered parts but eating most of it.
Somewhat of a suckerpunch, but that's still pretty tight. ;)
I saw a Bobcat vs. Rattlesnake video on Maximum Exposure yesterday. Bobcat whipped that ass.
jack_of_all
03-10-2005, 02:54 PM
has anyone seen the animal face off cougar vs wolf? why did they even do that... i havent actually seen it but im going to be taping it as well as gorrila vs leapord lol. i have to see this show...
Mission
03-10-2005, 03:22 PM
That bear is a hoss. I bet that mofo could toss some serious iron around in the weightroom.
lmao
Anthony VS Kodiak bear :D
Also, a Siberian tiger would obliterate a lion. The reason the tiger lost on Animal Faceoff was because it was a bengal (about 250 lbs lighter than a Siberian).
And an elephant would kick either a rhinor or hippo's ass. I've seen plenty of videos showing elephants just toss rhinos on their sides like it was nothing.
jack_of_all
03-10-2005, 03:25 PM
elephant owns basically all land animals in single combat save for armed humans.
HahnB
03-10-2005, 03:38 PM
lmao
Anthony VS Kodiak bear :D
Also, a Siberian tiger would obliterate a lion. The reason the tiger lost on Animal Faceoff was because it was a bengal (about 250 lbs lighter than a Siberian).
And an elephant would kick either a rhinor or hippo's ass. I've seen plenty of videos showing elephants just toss rhinos on their sides like it was nothing.
The tigers size wasn't really the issue. It's the fact that a Lion is a much more experienced fighter, and has a large mane to protect its neck. The reason the Bengal tiger was choosen is because that the two could have met in the wild, before the tiger was reduced to the low numbers it is now.
the tigers and lion still meet in the wild in a particular indian nature reservation, but its very rare.
jack_of_all
03-10-2005, 05:41 PM
asiatic lions are pretty tiny compared to their african counterparts or even bengals.
they arent tiny, but smaller yes.
emjlr3
03-11-2005, 11:14 AM
i duno about a elephant whoopin a rhino, maybe if hey stepped on em, but the rhino would charge and gut the side of the ele right open with its big ass horn, i think they may kill each other, the rhino would gut the ele then the ele would fall over on the rhino, gg both of them, but id deff liek so see an ele throw around a 6000+ pound rhino, with what its trunk.....they arent THAT strong are they?, I know they can rip small trees out of the ground....but so can I.....
Male elephants in must are the biggest treath to rhinos in africa next to pochers, they kill them yes.
HahnB
03-11-2005, 12:31 PM
but id deff liek so see an ele throw around a 6000+ pound rhino, with what its trunk.....they arent THAT strong are they?, I know they can rip small trees out of the ground....but so can I.....
They have 10ft tusks that would gore the rhino easily, they weigh twice as much as the rhino and dwarf it in comparisson. If a rhino is strong, imagine how strong a animal is that double its size.
jack_of_all
03-12-2005, 07:14 AM
400 lb silverback gorrilla with four of his similarly huge buddies vs richard simmons
place your bets
btw, has anyone ever seen the animal face off w/ shark vs croc? i heard croc wins and the reason why but it sounds totally unrealistic to me.
CiteCollegiale
03-12-2005, 09:28 AM
A polar bear would win vs almost any other species. It is the king of animal vs animal
Titanium_Jim
03-13-2005, 03:20 PM
btw, has anyone ever seen the animal face off w/ shark vs croc? i heard croc wins and the reason why but it sounds totally unrealistic to me.
Crocodiles own in water. Sharks have very limited fighting capabilities, can't turn and attack as quickly, and has to be upside down to chew. If sharks had giant, gaping jaws like crocodile's, they would win hands down, but a shark's mouth shape just isn't built for fighting to defend itself.
And do you know how strong elephants are? A 12,000lb elephant can swim, and with ease. Has anyone else seen video of elephants swimming?
I'd like to see a black bear go up against a chimpanzee that's just been injected with PCP.
Southern Beast
03-13-2005, 04:39 PM
I'd like to see a black bear go up against a chimpanzee that's just been injected with PCP.
I got money on the chimp. :P
biggimp
03-13-2005, 04:49 PM
http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/bearhunt.asp
did anybody catch the pic at the bottom of that link? i dont think i will be eating dinner tonight.... :omg:
HahnB
03-13-2005, 05:12 PM
400 lb silverback gorrilla with four of his similarly huge buddies vs richard simmons
place your bets
btw, has anyone ever seen the animal face off w/ shark vs croc? i heard croc wins and the reason why but it sounds totally unrealistic to me.
The great white crushed it's ass, like it should. It was a salt water croc, the biggest, but no match for a great white. The shark was faster, bigger, and more adapted to the water than the crocodile.
jack_of_all
03-14-2005, 02:21 PM
i heard the croc won, it sounded unrealistic as to why though. yeh, the shark is better in every aspect. like wolf vs COUGAR... which they also have.
IZich
03-14-2005, 09:49 PM
http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/bearhunt.asp
did anybody catch the pic at the bottom of that link? i dont think i will be eating dinner tonight.... :omg:
yum.
jack_of_all
03-15-2005, 05:24 AM
that leg wouldnt stand on its own with no body to hold it still... at least i dont think.
edit: and if it were possible, how likely is it that he got eaten while standing up and never fell over.
Songsangnim
03-15-2005, 06:31 AM
To bring this thread onto a slightly different tangent, what do you think is the most dominant animal for its size ?
My money would be on a wolverine. Even at current size there have been reports of them chasing off bears from a kill.
Gyno Rhino
03-15-2005, 06:34 AM
To bring this thread onto a slightly different tangent, what do you think is the most dominant animal for its size ?
My money would be on a wolverine. Even at current size there have been reports of them chasing off bears from a kill.
Without a doubt, it's gotta be the ant.
mrelwooddowd
03-15-2005, 06:55 AM
Which is the animal that clamps down on an elephant's sack until it bleeds out and dies? That is the dominant animal. Think of the predator/prey size ratio. Was it a hyena?
Songsangnim
03-15-2005, 07:08 AM
Without a doubt, it's gotta be the ant.
Well if we are discussing domination in terms of strength, it's the rhino beetle then. A human can support 17 times his own body weight, an ant taps out at a mere 50. The rhino beetle on the other hand can support a staggering 850 times its own weight.
Gyno Rhino
03-15-2005, 07:47 AM
Well if we are discussing domination in terms of strength, it's the rhino beetle then. A human can support 17 times his own body weight, an ant taps out at a mere 50. The rhino beetle on the other hand can support a staggering 850 times its own weight.
But are rhino beetles very aggressive?
If so, it wins.
HahnB
03-15-2005, 12:01 PM
Which is the animal that clamps down on an elephant's sack until it bleeds out and dies? That is the dominant animal. Think of the predator/prey size ratio. Was it a hyena?
Never heard of that-a hyena wouldn't be able to reach a elephants balls anyways:)
The ant is by far the most feroucious and destructive animal of it's size. Driver ants in SA travel in millions, have their own paths, kill EVERYTHING they come across, and when villagers know they're coming, they leave and when they come back there isn't the slightest morsel of anything left. They've killed many people.
Southern Beast
03-15-2005, 02:23 PM
I think an episode of Animal Faceoff comes on tonight on Animal Planet. I'll have to catch that.
you can crush a beetle with 2 fingers, it really doesnt matter what if, and compared to its size, what size, its a bug.
Mission
03-15-2005, 02:36 PM
Which is the animal that clamps down on an elephant's sack until it bleeds out and dies? That is the dominant animal. Think of the predator/prey size ratio. Was it a hyena?
lol, sure you're not just thinking of Lord of the Rings?
jack_of_all
03-15-2005, 02:53 PM
darn... i wasnt on and everyone beat me to it... ants...
anyway, if you have animals vs eachother with the only required parameter being that they have to weight the same from both sides the answer is still the same, but it is a more interesting concept. actually, people might win that one if they could run faster and do something like divert streams across the ants ranks etc...
btw, ants beat beatles because beatles wouldnt coordinate. also ants have poison and can probably bite through somewhere.
i think people are aslo discounting ants flying cousins--bees.
Songsangnim
03-15-2005, 09:55 PM
The ant is by far the most feroucious and destructive animal of it's size. Driver ants in SA travel in millions, have their own paths, kill EVERYTHING they come across, and when villagers know they're coming, they leave and when they come back there isn't the slightest morsel of anything left. They've killed many people.
Well that is their numbers that give them such strength. We were discussing one on one. Millions of elephants would also likely be unstoppable.
Songsangnim
03-15-2005, 10:03 PM
darn... i wasnt on and everyone beat me to it... ants...
anyway, if you have animals vs eachother with the only required parameter being that they have to weight the same from both sides the answer is still the same, but it is a more interesting concept. actually, people might win that one if they could run faster and do something like divert streams across the ants ranks etc...
btw, ants beat beatles because beatles wouldnt coordinate. also ants have poison and can probably bite through somewhere.
i think people are aslo discounting ants flying cousins--bees.
One on one though, a rhino beetle would kill an ant. They are much larger and have armoured shells to protect against the ant's bite. And they do have claws that while not long enough to injure a human would probably do significant damage to an ant. Certain types of rhino beetles are also captured and bred to fight. Ants generally only fight to defend the nest, although some species do attack other nests to get "slaves" for their own nest.
To bring this thread onto a slightly different tangent, what do you think is the most dominant animal for its size ?
My money would be on a wolverine. Even at current size there have been reports of them chasing off bears from a kill.
Or maybe a ferret.
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