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samiam5
03-10-2005, 08:09 PM
Hi everyone, i hear people saying u need good calories to get big but what are good calories and how much should i take. i am at 180 pounds right now at 5"9.

Built
03-10-2005, 08:25 PM
What are your calories now?

Vido
03-10-2005, 08:30 PM
"Good" calories basically mean nutrient-dense foods, as opposed to processed stuff or fast food.

spanky33
03-10-2005, 08:52 PM
u might wanna lose some weight first depending on ur body fat %...

Built
03-10-2005, 08:54 PM
Why on earth would you want to lose weight before putting on muscle?

fen2zla
03-10-2005, 09:00 PM
Why on earth would you want to lose weight before putting on muscle?

I think he meant 'lose some body fat' when he said 'lose weight'.

As for the original poster's question, check out What a bodybuilder eat's (http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=46565) . It's full of good thing's to eat.

Built
03-10-2005, 09:00 PM
Still - the best time to put on muscle is while you're fat. All those spare calories...

spanky33
03-10-2005, 09:06 PM
i did mean lose fat. my bad

fen2zla
03-10-2005, 09:11 PM
Still - the best time to put on muscle is while you're fat. All those spare calories...

Some people like to cut down to a low bodyfat before packing on the muscle. That way they can see the result's that would otherwise be hidden under fat.

There's no 'best' time to put on muscle. Anytime you put on muscle is good ;)

Built
03-10-2005, 09:56 PM
Hmmm...indeed.

Sure is EASIER when you're fatter, though.

And a hell of a lot more fun.

Mmmm... food...

Sorry. Cutting right now. And bitter.

Grumble, grumble...

Vido
03-10-2005, 11:57 PM
Sure is EASIER when you're fatter, though.

I've actually always heard the opposite.

Nevertheless, optimal situations aside, you're apt to put on a bit of fat while bulking. Most people never like to get "too" fat. What follows then is that you'd be best advised to start a bulk at a fairly low bodyfat %.

Double D
03-11-2005, 12:25 AM
I agree, its pretty tough to go into a bulk knowing you are already fat knowing you're just gonna get even more fat. Better to cut then you will be able to bulk longer before you get so fat you cant stand it

[[[----]]]
03-11-2005, 04:47 PM
I agree. I would lose some bodyfat first.

Built
03-11-2005, 04:53 PM
Hmmm...

I wasn't considering "bulking" - I was only considering starting from zero.

I started from zero while fat, and packing on muscle helped me drop bodyfat. God bless the newbie phenomenon. :)

We don't know where samiam's coming from, so I guess we're all projecting based on our own experience. I was assuming he's new to lifting, based on his question.

Frankster
03-11-2005, 05:08 PM
who says he needs to lose bodyfat? He only gave his weight, not bf%

samiam5
03-14-2005, 10:07 PM
who says he needs to lose bodyfat? He only gave his weight, not bf%

My bodyfat is 10% BTW

DoUgL@S
03-14-2005, 10:20 PM
at 5'9" 180 10% bf, keep eating what you are eating, just more of it. There is no such thing as a good or bad calorie. A calorie is just a measure of energy. There is however a difference in the way your body metabolizes different types of foods. It sounds like you may benefit from doing a little more reading and maybe jotting down your diet for an entire week so that you know what and how much you are taking in now. Calories, protein, carbs and fat.

spencerjrus
03-14-2005, 10:26 PM
Hmmm...indeed.

Sure is EASIER when you're fatter, though.

And a hell of a lot more fun.

Mmmm... food...

Sorry. Cutting right now. And bitter.

Grumble, grumble...


I'm bulking and bitter, I wish I could be cutting.

Built
03-15-2005, 12:42 AM
And bitter.

IZich
03-15-2005, 03:12 PM
I'm bulking and bitter, I wish I could be cutting.

lol only 27 lbs to go :P
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