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BCC
03-15-2005, 02:41 PM
Hopefully some God damn glory :evillaugh !

Well my diet is going to be kicking off tomorrow. The Mr Indianapolis is about 11 weeks away (June 11th), I feel like I may be cutting it a little close but I know I can pull it off.

I honestly don't know exactly what I'm going to be doing yet for diet, but that is going to be worked out today and tomorrow. I'm working with the pro bodybuilder Phil Hernon whom no longer competes. His methods are a bit unorthodox but I've always swayed to that side anyhow. I will be following all his diet and training advice for the next 15 weeks (up until the Mr Indiana show in July).

I'm going to do my best to update this every day with my diet and training and every few weeks with pictures.

ryuage
03-15-2005, 02:44 PM
good luck chase, let me be the first to give ya some :spam:

BCC
03-15-2005, 02:44 PM
This can be noted as my starting point. 5'10 220s right now. I'll post exact numbers as I know them.

Now it's time to get shredded.

Isaac Wilkins
03-15-2005, 02:44 PM
Best of luck, skinny!

:spam:

getfit
03-15-2005, 02:46 PM
looking awesome chase good luck :)

Chubrock
03-15-2005, 02:48 PM
Def. looking forward to reading this journal Chase. As for "Happy Chase," looks more like Evil Devilish Chase to me lol. How old are ya btw?

Frankster
03-15-2005, 02:51 PM
good luck. Didn't know you could smile ;)
edit: looking damn huge. I thnk 11 weeks is enough from your starting point, you're not fat at all.

BCC
03-15-2005, 02:55 PM
Thanks guys.

I'm 19, turning 20 on the 29th of June. So I'll be competing as a teenager and novice in the Mr Indianapolis. After the Indianapolis I figure out what class or classes I'm doing at the Mr Indiana. If I win the Novice at the Indianapolis then I will have to do the Mens Open at the Mr Indiana, which is tough competition, especially for a 20 year old. If I don't win the Novice then I'll be doing that again at the Mr Indiana, but I will no longer be a teenager.

muscle chic
03-15-2005, 02:56 PM
Your're a "MONSTER"!!! Damb you look good!!!

Chubrock
03-15-2005, 02:56 PM
Damn Chase, you're just over a year older than me. I hate you hahaha.

lilmase1153
03-15-2005, 03:07 PM
good luck bro. its about damn time you do some shows, as well all know youll do great..

Hatred
03-15-2005, 03:12 PM
Get a haircut. Your hair make you look like you have horns.
Good luck man. It's weird seeing you smile in a photo...except for "Pierre" anyway....

DoUgL@S
03-15-2005, 03:15 PM
What weight class are you going to compete in? It looks like you could come in at 200+ lbs in shredded mode.

Canadian Crippler
03-15-2005, 03:16 PM
Do not get a haircut. Hair is the greatest thing that has ever happened to man.

Good luck bro, lookin forward to reading your workouts in here.

Miss Rezza
03-15-2005, 03:29 PM
Def. looking forward to reading this journal Chase.
:withstupi

Looking awesome (as per usual) Chase.

Focused70
03-15-2005, 03:37 PM
Definitely not Pierre. :p

Stash

Jabberwocky
03-15-2005, 05:20 PM
Definately going to follow this journal, best of luck with the toughness of contest prep. Is this the first time competing since that one you posted the video for?

Hatred
03-15-2005, 05:27 PM
Chase don't listen to them. Shave your goddamn head....You wanna look like one of them Shaggy-college-boy lookalikes?!

GMCtrk
03-15-2005, 05:39 PM
You are 1 month and 1 day older than me

Anthony
03-15-2005, 05:55 PM
Chase don't listen to them. Shave your goddamn head....You wanna look like one of them Shaggy-college-boy lookalikes?!

:withstupi

You look great and I have no doubt you'll have it dialed in for the show. Looking forward to the progress pics!

Pup
03-15-2005, 06:17 PM
Good luck Chase, not that you'll need it...i will definitely be keeping an eye on this journal.

smalls
03-15-2005, 06:21 PM
I'm going to do my best to update this every day with my diet and training and every few weeks with pictures.

You will be getting harped on constantly if you slack on the updates. I'm interested in the diet and training he has you on, I'll be looking forward to you owning that show. You look awesome as is, you should be dialed in come show time.

JSully
03-15-2005, 06:22 PM
I'll definately keep posted. I'm interested to see what kind of pre-contest diet/training regimen you'll have.

cphafner
03-15-2005, 06:26 PM
great to hear you are competing. Hernon is a monster, thats quite a tutor you have. Good lukc Chase.

BCC
03-16-2005, 12:31 AM
Thanks to all of you. This will be only my second time competing so far. I am planning on competing at 195-198, although who knows, I may end up heavier. If I do, no big deal really.

For now I'm changing my diet to a 40c/30p/30f diet. I'm going to be basing it on 6000 calories to start with. Every meal is going to contain 29 grams of fat, 65 grams of protein and 86 grams of carbs. All 7 meals may be close to identical. This is just how I'm going to get things started.

Phil is having me completely change my training which I have no objection to, anything I've ever tried has worked well. Plus this is more my style:

Day 1 - Back and Biceps followed by Chest and triceps

Day 2 - Quads, Hams, Calves, Shoulders

This is it and I'm going to just keep repeating it until I feel I need rest. I will be doing two working sets per body part done back to back. For instance I may pick incline BB presses and flat DB flies for chest; then I will only perform one working set on incline followed immediately by one working set of DB flies. Then I'll move on to the next body part. I'm going to be using a handful of exercises, but basically sticking with the basics: Incline and flat bench and flies, barbell rows, deadlifts, pullovers, squats, leg presses, stiff legged deadlifts, lying leg curls, donkey calve raises and seated calve raises, and probably leg extensions and a few cable movements. I will also swith up which large muscles groups I begin with on a given day.

ryuage
03-16-2005, 12:35 AM
wow cutting on 6000 calories eh.

BCC
03-16-2005, 12:48 AM
Yep :D

Vido
03-16-2005, 12:50 AM
wow cutting on 6000 calories eh.

Boy, do I wish I could do that...mmmmmmmmmmm :drooling:

Btw, looking great Chase! I'd assume you'd always be progressing anyway, but I'll say that's definitely the most impressive I've ever seen you look.

PizDoff
03-16-2005, 12:53 AM
Damn teengers!

*Shakes a fist and tries to hobble away*

User3000
03-16-2005, 03:13 AM
Don't shave your head... You look better WITH hair. :-)

All the best for your preparation and the contest!

Stackattack
03-16-2005, 03:43 AM
Good luck with your contest prep Chase.
I've been hoping you would start a new journal for a while now as your old one awesome. All the best man.

Coke
03-16-2005, 04:30 AM
You are the premier bodybuilder in your age range and one of the best by far...would be nice to see the Indianapolis show in person - wish you success always BCC.

Chubrock
03-16-2005, 07:44 AM
I was thinking if Chase had no objection, that maybe a bunch of us from the board could go and support him at the show. It seemed everybody had so much fun at the Arnold, that we might could get everybody together during the summer and hit up Chase's show. Of course that really came down to whether or not Chase wanted a bunch of us there or not.

Wikked1
03-16-2005, 07:59 AM
Damn man you make me SICK,SICK yeah that's right,I wish I could look that good before a cut. I wish I had that kind of width....you look awesome even before the cut. Oh and uhm the only guys who ever want people to shave their heads are the guys who have no hair....ever notice that? :D (misery loves company or something like that) ;)
Not that you'll need it but good luck in the comp!

ectx
03-16-2005, 08:17 AM
You know how I feel. I'm seriously looking forward to seeing you update your progress in this thing. You've got a lot of talent and I know you'll only get better. How was the farewell Pizza, btw? lol

_8_Ball
03-16-2005, 08:39 AM
Chase,

I think 11 weeks will be more then enough... your conditioning is already pretty good... Since this is only your second show, I would try to do it a little like Jay Cutler and be ready about 2-3 weeks before the actuall show that way you won't need to do anything drastic in the last week...

I'm sure you have a gameplan and will be very successfull... I know many of us here will be checking your journal and keeping you in check each day...

now go kick a$$!

8

BCC
03-16-2005, 09:15 AM
Thanks fellas. I also really appreciate it vido, if I look good now then I guess I'd better look damn good come show time.

Believe me I would LOVE for my head to be shaved right now. But I've been advised against it if I'm not balding (and I'm not) and want to get in any magazines, so the hair will stay. I've been told it makes a better impression when meeting people. Plus my girlfriend hates it when I shave my head.

Chubrock, that's a cool idea. I just don't know how many people would be able to make it. I do already plan on getting a hotel room with my girlfriend anyhow for Friday and Saturday night. So if anyone can make it, they would be more than welcome.

Lol, wicked so true. Or they're the ones that are pissed that I can grow hair yet choose to shave it.

Rene, the chuckecheese pizza was most excellent..and the steak n shake...and...well I won't list what else. I didn't go to bed with any hunger pains.

8_ball, I do plan to be ready a bit earlier, I think it will just happen anyways. Currently I don't even have any plans of using ECA or any other stimulants. If for some reason I feel like I'm falling behind, I may introduce one.

Silverback
03-16-2005, 09:15 AM
Great to see a new journal up Chase :)

Judging by the pic and what your saying your gonna tear **** up this time round (won't even be close!) I like the look of the split you've devised with Phil, not sure about unorthodox, looks logical to me :) lol cutting on 6000 cals thats a beautiful thing heheh.

No doubt u got my support bro throughout, if the other guys get anywhere near your upper body, your legs will kick them all into touch for sure. keep it tight

B-R

briancurran01
03-16-2005, 09:21 AM
good luck chase...I am sure you will do well :thumbup:

ericg
03-16-2005, 10:57 AM
Good luck Chase. I am sure you will do well at the show!

EdgarMex
03-16-2005, 12:22 PM
Good luck with the show, Chase, I'm joining the followers of this journal, it should make a very interesting read.

Relentless
03-16-2005, 12:39 PM
you look like you're ready to rock, chase

good luck with the comp...

I don't know if it's the pic or the angle but the only thing even vaguely resembling a weak spot might be your calves but that could also just be becaus your quads are so overwhelmingly impressive

I guess a back full body shot would help clear that up

BCC
03-16-2005, 01:26 PM
Nope, you're right Callahan lol. Calves still suck. I'm going to do my best to improve them as I diet, but only so much can be done. Same goes for my arms and lats (which seem not near as wide as they once were).

I appreciate all the support from everyone. I'll be posting the days diet each night.

neartaigh
03-16-2005, 01:26 PM
OMG. One of your meals is what I eat all day long. Please eat some cheesecake for me?

*greeeeeen with envy*

I don`t know what it is with the hair...I think all men should shave it off. Bald is soooo much better than the bad haircuts most dudes get.

Good luck Chase!

Focused70
03-16-2005, 01:35 PM
Bald is soooo much better than the bad haircuts most dudes get.

Pfft, he just needs the advice of a joto in that regard. ;)

Stash

BCC
03-16-2005, 01:47 PM
Lol, I think I can squeeze some cheesecake into the diet neartaigh. I actually did go get a haircut today, still nowhere near the bald head I wish I had.

So stash, what is the resident jotos opinion on the matter?

-TIM-
03-16-2005, 01:51 PM
Nice smile :thumbup:

Focused70
03-16-2005, 01:56 PM
No shaving north of the border. ;)

Stash

Border = above the neck. <cymbal crash>

Hatred
03-16-2005, 02:49 PM
wow cutting on 6000 calories eh.

I am going to stray from consensus and say...."Damn,That sucks.,NO relief frm gorgings, huh?"

lilmase1153
03-16-2005, 02:51 PM
damn at 195-198 youll shredded since you dont have much BF at all and you are already pretty damn vascular.. best wishes

Teufelhund
03-16-2005, 03:07 PM
your journal is 1 day old and has over 50 replies. only you, chase, lol.

Good luck with the contest prep! You look great, as always. And you'd better share any super pro secrets Phil gives you!!! If you don't, I'll personally pack my bags and pay $2 a gallon to drive up there and... um... give you a really stern look!

...from a distance.

User3000
03-16-2005, 03:33 PM
Good to hear about the hair. All my bodybuilding friends want to shave for the "evil" look... But it really does NOT look better. ;-)

BCC
03-16-2005, 03:34 PM
LMAO. So as long as you don't tip your glasses and glare at me over them Casey.

3/16/05

I'm going to just start posting todays diet and edit it as I go along. For now I'm going to be on the supplement diet lol. Just getting my body accustomed to the new macro ratios. Although I may make this whole thing a liquid diet heh.

Training - None today. My back and quads are quite sore from previous workouts. I'll begin my day 2 lower body and shoulder training tomorrow.

Diet

Meal 1 - 2 scoops weight gainer, 2 scoops whey, 1.5 tables spoons flax seed oil, and psyllium powder in water. 910 calories. 33 fat. 82 carbs. 73.5 protein. 4 caps ETS, 1 multi-vitamin, 1 cap milk thistle, 1 tab MSM extreme join formula.

Meal 2 - 1 Tri-o-plex bar, 1 myoplex sport bar, 1 OStrim beef stick. 900 calories. 27.5 fat. 97 carbs, 73 protein. 1 uni-liver tab, 1 free form amino capsule.

Meal 3 - 2 scoops gainer, 1.5 scoops whey, 1 tablespoon liquid aminos, 1.5 tablespoons olive oil. 870 calories. 32.25 fat. 82 carbs. 67.5 protein. 1 free form amino capsule, 1 uni-liver tab, 1 MSM extreme joint formula.

Meal 4 - 1 can tuna fillet (in olive oil already), 10 ounces potato, 1 scoop whey in water with psyllium. 870 calories. 32.5 fat. 86 carbs. 65.5 protein. Free form aminos, uni-liver tab, MSM extreme joint formula.

Meal 5 - 1 can tuna fillet (in olive oil already), 11 ounces potato, 1 scoop whey in water with psyllium. 906 calories. 32.6 fat. 94.3 carbs. 66.5 protein. Free form aminos, uni-liver tab, milk thistle.

Meal 6 - 2 scoops gainer, 1.5 scoops whey, 1 tablespoon olive oil, psyllium powder. 780 calories. 25.25 fat. 80.5 carbs. 62 protein. Free form aminos, uni-liver tab.

Meal 7 - 2 scoops gainer, 1.5 scoops whey, 1 tablespoon olive oil, psyllium powder. 780 calories. 25.25 fat. 80.5 carbs. 62 protein. Free form aminos, uni-liver tab, multi-vitamin, 4 ETS capsules.

TOTALS: 6016 calories: 208.35 fat, 602.3 carbs, 470 protein. Bah, these numbers don't exactly add up, but I was going by the packaging of the food. Close enough.

Chubrock
03-16-2005, 03:50 PM
If ya don't mind me askin BCC, how much is all this costing you a day? That sure seems like a **** load of supplements money-wise.

BCC
03-16-2005, 04:01 PM
50 dollars a week maybe? I'm really not sure exactly.

Teufelhund
03-16-2005, 04:02 PM
I bet that web-cam guy is taking care of it for you, huh...

BCC
03-16-2005, 04:03 PM
;)

And actually it's a whole company website.

galileo
03-16-2005, 04:41 PM
Again, **** you.

BCC
03-16-2005, 05:02 PM
Again, **** you.

Give me a hug
:angel:

JustinASU
03-16-2005, 05:10 PM
Again, **** you.
:withstupi


You look to be in incredible shape bro. What are you pinching at to begin with? Can't be any higher than 10%...

BCC
03-16-2005, 05:12 PM
:withstupi


You look to be in incredible shape bro. What are you pinching at to begin with? Can't be any higher than 10%...

Thanks Justin, I honestly don't have a clue. I haven't had my bodyfat tested for..well, almost years now. I probably won't bother getting pinched for a few weeks, if even at all.

TTT
03-16-2005, 05:13 PM
That's a lot of psyllium.... hehe
But I guess you're not eating veges. Apart from potatoes.

Hatred
03-16-2005, 07:41 PM
Please tell me that is just your supps.
I saw a potato and tuna as real food;and that was it.

Does this mean that my liquid calories are justified?

BigMatt
03-16-2005, 08:48 PM
203G fat/455g Protein/602G carbs for cutting ?

Man! With that amount of carbs i would maybe maintain my weight but sure not lose some...

If it's working for you great! Give some hernon tips if you can ;)

Hatred
03-16-2005, 08:54 PM
To Hell with vegetables.

GMCtrk
03-16-2005, 09:07 PM
203G fat/455g Protein/602G carbs for cutting ?

Man! With that amount of carbs i would maybe maintain my weight but sure not lose some...

If it's working for you great! Give some hernon tips if you can ;)

the amount of carbs someone's body needs to totally dependent on that individual. A "carb depeletion" day for dorian yates was about 200g of carbs, whereas when he was bulking he would take in 1000g of carb. He said he just couldn't have the energy without 50% of his diet being carbs

BCC
03-16-2005, 09:38 PM
Please tell me that is just your supps.
I saw a potato and tuna as real food;and that was it.

Does this mean that my liquid calories are justified?

I don't think there will be much solid food in here. That's kind of my style, and as a matter of fact I don't think Phil eats much if any real food. I think I've seen him mention that he'll eat a little chicken.

This isn't exactly what I'll be dieting with yet, we're establishing a base line for now and changing some ratios around. I'm sure I'll start dropping some more cals before long. How low I'll go I don't know.

Patz
03-16-2005, 09:53 PM
So you have a bodybuilding site that pays for you to be on teh webcam all day? Or is it some other kind of site? I guess I missed that story..

Your physique is just insane

rookiebldr
03-16-2005, 10:31 PM
I'm not at all surprised at the all supp diet. You've done that before and it's done you well bulking or dieting.

Chase, I wish you the best on the contest prep. I've seen some of the people Phil's worked with and I think you'll do very well working with him getting ready for the show. You definitely looked great in the hotel room, so coming in close to 200lbs and you'll be taking it home.

BCC
03-16-2005, 10:52 PM
So you have a bodybuilding site that pays for you to be on teh webcam all day? Or is it some other kind of site? I guess I missed that story..

Your physique is just insane

LOL no. I mentioned in the General Chat thread "Would you pose for a gay porn magazine" or whatever, that I had offers before, not for gay porn but to pose on camera for 50 dollars an hour. But no, I didn't accept any such offers.


Jeff, thanks a lot. Hopefully all goes well if not better than planned.

Patz
03-16-2005, 10:59 PM
LOL no. I mentioned in the General Chat thread "Would you pose for a gay porn magazine" or whatever, that I had offers before, not for gay porn but to pose on camera for 50 dollars an hour. But no, I didn't accept any such offers.


Jeff, thanks a lot. Hopefully all goes well if not better than planned.

Oh yeah..I remember you saying that now..I'm sleepy I guess. At 19, unless you're a lottery winner you must be sinking all your hard-earned cash into supplements and food.

BCC
03-16-2005, 11:12 PM
Oh yeah..I remember you saying that now..I'm sleepy I guess. At 19, unless you're a lottery winner you must be sinking all your hard-earned cash into supplements and food.

That's where a decent amount of my money goes, but also my parents are very supportive of my efforts.

Jabberwocky
03-17-2005, 09:17 AM
So are you like a protege under Phil Hernon, or did you hire him, he offer his help, how does one get lined up with a former pro BB =D ?

User3000
03-17-2005, 09:21 AM
how does one get lined up with a former pro BB =D ?

I suppose the bodybuilding scene is rather small. You really do meet always the same people there and therefore it's no wonder that he can get in contact with "pros". They are also "only human".

BCC
03-17-2005, 09:21 AM
That would be nice, but no. I'm paying him.

BCC
03-17-2005, 02:02 PM
3/17/05


Training - Quads, Hams, Calves, Shoulders

Squat/Leg Press superset Squat warmups - 135x8, 225x5, 315x5
405x8 directly to leg press for 7pps x 8.

Lying Leg Curl/Seated Leg Curl Superset
135x10 lying, 120x8 seated

Seated calve press/Seated calve raise superset
220x10 press, 90x10 raise

DB military/DB lateral raise superset
100x8 military, 40x10 raises

My blood pressure was probably through the roof during this as from a distance I watched my girlfriend get trampled by senior citizens on the cardio deck. Everyone wants something, and no one wants to work hard for it :swear:


Diet

Meal 1 - 2 scoops gainer, 2 scoops whey, 1.5 tablespoons olive oil, psyllium powder. 895 calories. 33 fat. 82 carbs. 73.5 protein. Multi-vitamin, 4 ETS capsules, free form aminos, uni-liver, MSM extreme join formula, 1 gram ALA.

Meal 2 - See meal 1.

Meal 3 - 2 scoops gainer, 2 scoops whey, 1 tablespoon olive oil, psyllium powder. 835 calories. 26 fat. 82 carbs. 73.5 protein.

Meal 4 - 1 can tuna (in olive oil already), 10 ounces potatos, 1 scoop whey in water. 870 calories. 32.5 fat. 86 carbs. 65.5 protein.Free form aminos, uni-liver, MSM extreme joint formula.

Meal 5 - 2 scoops gainer, 2 scoops whey, 1 tablespoon olive oil, psyllium powder. 835 calories. 26 fat. 82 carbs. 73.5 protein.

Meal 6 - See Meal 5.

Meal 7 - 2 scoops gainer, 2 scoops whey, 1.5 tablespoons olive oil, psyllium powder. 895 calories. 33 fat. 82 carbs. 73.5 protein. 4 ETS capsules, free form aminos, multi-vitamin, milk thistle, uni-liver.

GMCtrk
03-17-2005, 02:22 PM
on your DB shoulder presses, do you use a full ROM (bring Dbs all the way down to your shoulder?)

Hatred
03-17-2005, 02:27 PM
GMC. From what I have seen chase uses FULL rom on every exercise with an emphasis on the negative.



Chase: Budiak printed those shots I took of you in the rack,in the hole. They came out awesome.

GMCtrk
03-17-2005, 02:34 PM
GMC. From what I have seen chase uses FULL rom on every exercise with an emphasis on the negative.



Chase: Budiak printed those shots I took of you in the rack,in the hole. They came out awesome.

Cool. I figured he would use a full ROM. I used to be more of a partial ROM lifter, especially on shoulder presses. Most people you see only take them down to about eye level becuase they say below that doesn't work your shoulders anymore. But I find that full ROM gives me a better exercise. Full ROM on squats too baby :thumbup:

BCC
03-17-2005, 02:40 PM
Yeah, like Nevermore said I use a full range of motion with slow negatives. I was actually disappointed with 100x8, but I was pretty worn out from my quad superset. I had been working with the 120s in the last few weeks.


Josh, is he going to scan them then? I'd like to see those. And the one of you with Miss Beefy.

Hatred
03-17-2005, 02:57 PM
Yeah He is.

JSully
03-17-2005, 05:59 PM
Chase, I'd like to know how you think you're going to get down to 195-198?

At the mid 220's you're already lean as hell. Figure 10lbs for water that brings you down to what? 215? You CAN'T be much more than 8% right now and the goal is 3%....SO....that gives you a LBM of 197.8... not including the 3-3.5% you of fat you should have. That would put you in the 200-203 range.

I suppose if you want to make light heavyweights you'll hafta sacrifice a little LBM. 3-5lbs isn't a real big deal. But then again I could be wrong. What's your take on this?

Also, I'm wondering, are you going to be 'enhanced' for the show(s)? If so then that make make it a little difficult to lose those extra 3lbs of LBM.

Anyways, as I previously stated, you look incredible. How are your knees holding up on the heavy ATF squats? I find that they just kill me :(

Chubrock
03-17-2005, 07:28 PM
Killin them squats I see Chase. I was wondering about this first competition in June. We were gonna see if a bunch of people from the boards wanted to go, but I wanted to try and find out as much info about it as possible. Where's it gonna take place at, how much are tickets (if ya know) and can we buy them in advance. Also any other specifics you can think of.

cphafner
03-17-2005, 09:02 PM
Real impressive leg session. What brand gainer are you using?

BCC
03-17-2005, 11:34 PM
Jake - My scale at home has me significantly lower, about 219. So I'm using that as my baseline. I actually don't care if I come in above 198 for the June show because I'll be doing the teenage and novice. In novice over 200 is a heavy weight and most novice heavy weights are out of shape, so I wouldn't mind doing that, but if I were below 200 the middleweight novice class is a tough one. I would most likely want to be 198 for the Fort Wayne show in July if I have to do the men's open. I'll be enhanced for the shows, although I still don't know what I'm going to be doing yet, lol. Talk about running late on that. I noticed in my new quiet gym that my knees sound horrible while I squat, but they feel fine, so I guess I'm having no problems. Sometimes a patella or two will ache in the morning, but what I do at night is my own damn business.

Chubrock - I'll let you know as soon as I have all the details. I'll work on finding them out. The show is usually held in a highschool gymnasium so I recall in the past. Who knows about this year though.

cphafner - Thanks. It's called Muscle Juice. It's pure crap really, lots of sugar and saturated fat. I'll eventually go back to Cytogainer I think. I was strictly using it because it was cheap with a lot of calories.

GMCtrk
03-17-2005, 11:49 PM
I was wondering about how your knees hold up as well too. I have been doing atf'ers for about 3 weeks now and my knees are now starting to get sore. I don't want to give up doing ATF's though, I am seeing some definite growth from them.

Stackattack
03-18-2005, 01:21 AM
Great workout Chase. My knees always crack when i descend below parallel, but theres no pain so i guess its fine then. Just a question. Have you suffered any serious injuries due to bodybuilding? It seemes to me that when most people get to your level they all have some kind of injury dampening their progress such as a torn pec or a herniated disk, but you seem to have avoided it.

BCC
03-18-2005, 10:09 AM
Great workout Chase. My knees always crack when i descend below parallel, but theres no pain so i guess its fine then. Just a question. Have you suffered any serious injuries due to bodybuilding? It seemes to me that when most people get to your level they all have some kind of injury dampening their progress such as a torn pec or a herniated disk, but you seem to have avoided it.

I've never experienced any bad injuries with the exception of my wrist which killed my training for almost 3 months, (I just didn't feel like doing it because I couldn't do a whole lot properly) but that was just some kind of freak accident. I was holding on so hard on the handles during a leg press set that I screwed my own wrist up.

Other than that occurence anything has been minor, and as I've further improved my form I have less and less injuries. The biggest thing about my lifting style is that I do it SLLLLOW. Virtually all the negative portions of all my lifts are very slow, this hurts my numbers, but that's one thing you have to get over if you want to remain healthy.

galileo
03-18-2005, 10:38 AM
Having liver concerns?

BCC
03-18-2005, 11:12 AM
I take milk thistle yearly regardless.

Plus my mom doesn't quite get the difference between orals and injectables and insists on buying me like a bottle a week of milk thistle, so I don't really have a reason not to take it.

Blood&Iron
03-18-2005, 11:27 AM
Plus my mom doesn't quite get the difference between orals and injectables and insists on buying me like a bottle a week of milk thistle, so I don't really have a reason not to take it.
Your parents (or at least your mom), know about your use and are okay with it?

I had thought you'd kept them them in dark.

BCC
03-18-2005, 11:33 AM
Your parents (or at least your mom), know about your use and are okay with it?

I had thought you'd kept them them in dark.

I did originally. But they've known for about the last year. They just want me to do it as safely as I can. Have regular blood work done, watch my blood pressure, watch my liver (although I'm not big into orals), ect.

It wasn't like this at first, in the beginning they thought what any regular parents would. Luckily I'm intelligent and they're intelligent and have come to terms with my usage and accepted all the information I've laid out for them. Now they just want me to be careful, although they would still prefer I not use them.

If anything, their biggest concern is keeping me out of jail. They do agree that it should be legalized and there are far worse legal compounds out there. If I were buying off some local dealers or something they would certainly not go for that. They're aware I make all my own stuff and keep it at that.

smalls
03-18-2005, 12:01 PM
Your parents rule, go give em a hug dude.

BTW, sick leg workout. Diet's looking consistent, i'm a fan of liquid meals too, solid food is so overated. Keep it up, you sure got the whole place watchin you, no pressure, lol.

Hatred
03-18-2005, 12:01 PM
It's cool that all that drama is over.
On the flipside I think my parents now know as I am lke 40lbs heavier then when they last saw me,and neither said a damn word about it.
"when they don't say it to your face,they speak volumes behind your back"

monotone
03-18-2005, 12:19 PM
"when they don't say it to your face,they speak volumes behind your back"


:withstupi that quote is usually true about people in general haha.

BigMatt
03-18-2005, 02:23 PM
cphafner - Thanks. It's called Muscle Juice. It's pure crap really, lots of sugar and saturated fat. I'll eventually go back to Cytogainer I think. I was strictly using it because it was cheap with a lot of calories.

Theres so much fructose in that crap it's not even funny.I use to take it long ago...
You can taste the sugar in it...
I think it was Vanilla, Blue tub

Relentless
03-18-2005, 02:30 PM
when you say slow negative, how slow do you mean?

3 second negs? 6 second? 10 second?

Canadian Crippler
03-18-2005, 02:33 PM
Most weightgainers are like that, with the exception of cytosport and a couple others.

BCC
03-18-2005, 02:41 PM
Theres so much fructose in that crap it's not even funny.I use to take it long ago...
You can taste the sugar in it...
I think it was Vanilla, Blue tub

We may or may not be referring to the same one. I've seen the name Muscle Juice used with quite a few products. This comes in a white 10 pound bucket.

BCC
03-18-2005, 02:42 PM
when you say slow negative, how slow do you mean?

3 second negs? 6 second? 10 second?

Generally a full one one thousand two one thousand three one thousand. But then I forcefully push back up after the weight has totally stopped at the bottom.

BigMatt
03-18-2005, 02:46 PM
We may or may not be referring to the same one. I've seen the name Muscle Juice used with quite a few products. This comes in a white 10 pound bucket.

There's a picture of a guy flat DB pressing on it?

Jabberwocky
03-18-2005, 02:49 PM
Does Phil have a pretty impressive resume when it comes to working with other bb'ers for show prep? Also, do you know any of the other teens that your are going to be competing against, any competitor you are keeping a close eye on?

BCC
03-18-2005, 04:33 PM
Matt, yep that is the one.


Jabberwocky, he's worked with tons of people, I've seen quite a few he's worked with as well, all impressive. Plus he himself is quite impressive.

I don't know of any other teens that will be competing there. Sometimes the show has none, sometimes 10-15. In recent years there have been 3-5 teenagers there from what I recall. I'm not too concerned about who's going to be there, just that I come with the best package I can bring. Because you just never know, some 5'5 freak could come put me to shame, so all I can do is look out for myself.

User3000
03-18-2005, 04:35 PM
You will rock it, I am sure.
And I am curious if the investment paid off -- but I think it will. Your results will just be as impressive if not better.

Miss Rezza
03-18-2005, 04:41 PM
I've never experienced any bad injuries with the exception of my wrist which killed my training for almost 3 months, (I just didn't feel like doing it because I couldn't do a whole lot properly) but that was just some kind of freak accident. I was holding on so hard on the handles during a leg press set that I screwed my own wrist up.


Now that is a freak accident! :eek: .... a little bit funny too. ;)

Oh, and i totally agree with smalls... go give your parents a big hug!! :D

BCC
03-18-2005, 04:42 PM
Phil was quite inexpensive compared to what many others are asking. Plus I speak to him on the phone every day and he has no problem with me calling him anytime to ask questions. I can always get a hold of him and he's a real nice and knowledgeable guy.

BCC
03-18-2005, 04:43 PM
Now that is a freak accident! :eek: .... a little bit funny too. ;)

Oh, and i totally agree with smalls... go give your parents a big hug!! :D


LOL. Oh believe from me, I was thrown plenty of **** from the guys at the gym. So much so as a few of them would wrap their wrists before leg pressing around me.

chris mason
03-18-2005, 05:33 PM
Chase, PM me about this contest prep and us hooking you up.

cphafner
03-18-2005, 06:36 PM
Jabberwocky, he's worked with tons of people, I've seen quite a few he's worked with as well, all impressive. Plus he himself is quite impressive.


Some of the guys he has posted on promuscle have had real impressive results.

BCC
03-18-2005, 07:11 PM
Some of the guys he has posted on promuscle have had real impressive results.

Yeah, most definitely.


Chris, PM is out.


3/18/05

Training - Chest, triceps, back, biceps

Incline Barbell/Flat DB Fly Superset Warmups - Bar x 20, 135x15
250x7 incline straight to 70x7 flat flies

Seated Dip/Pushdown Superset
270x12 dips straight to 150x8 pushdowns

Unsupported T-bar/Machine Pullover Superset
180x10 t-bars straight to 210x9 pullovers

Seated BB curls*/Dumbell Hammer Preachers Superset
95x8 BB straight to 35x8 hammers (I had to assist myself on most of these..damn lol)

*The seated barbell curls are done letting the bar down to my lap but just above my legs not letting it touch. These are tough.

Diet

Meal 1 - 4 scoops cytogainer, 1/2 scoop whey, 1.5 tablespoons olive oil. 845 calories. 65.5 protein. 85.5 carbs. 24.5 fat.Multi-vitamin, 4 capsules ETS, milk thistle, free form aminos, uni-liver.

Meal 2 - See meal 1 845 calories. 65.5 protein. 85.5 carbs. 24.5 fat.

Meal 3 - 1 can tuna in olive oil already, 10 ounces potatos, 1 scoop whey in water. 870 calories. 32.5 fat. 86 carbs. 65.5 protein. Free form aminos, uni-liver.

Meal 4 - 4 scoops cytogainer, 1/2 scoop whey, 1 tablespoon olive oil, psyllium powder. 785 calories. 65.5 protein. 85.5 carbs. 17.5 fat.Free form aminos, uni-liver.

Meal 5 - 4 scoops cytogainer, 4 tablespoons liquid aminos, 1 tablespoon olive oil. 850 calories. 76 protein. 90 carbs. 17.5 fat. Free form aminos, uni-liver.

Meal 6 - 1 can tuna in olive oil, 10 ounces potatos, 1 scoop whey + 1 tablespoon liquid aminos. 900 calories. 32.5 fat. 71 protein. 87.5 carbs.

Meal 7 - 4 scoops cytogainer, 3 tablespoons olive oil (just doing some catching up in the fat department). 970 calories. 42 grams fat. 54 protein. 84 carbs. Free form aminos, uni-liver, 4 capsules ETS, 1 multi-vitamin, extra vitamin C.

TOTALS: 6065 calories. 191 fat. 463 protein. 604 carbs. Again my numbers don't add up and I'm not inclined enough to go look over all my labels. I'm not going to nitpick too much, just use numbers as a baseline.

Oh, and to clarify, the uni-liver are not for my liver. They are desiccated bovine liver, whey, terra alba, choline citrate, ect, ect. More aminos basically in short.

Hatred
03-18-2005, 07:31 PM
It is sad how glued I am to this journal. :(

User3000
03-18-2005, 07:36 PM
It is sad how glued I am to this journal. :(
how true... :cry:

EdgarMex
03-18-2005, 07:51 PM
It is sad how glued I am to this journal. :(

If it's any consolation, there's a bunch of us, not just you :)

Silverback
03-19-2005, 03:01 AM
It is sad how glued I am to this journal. :(

it aint sad fella, Chase is a sound guy and its a rarity that you get to see someone with alot of talent posting how they do their thing :)

Chase whats your thoughts on Dante's (aka Doggcrapp) approach to diet i.e. separating carbs and fats, i.e. doing a carb load, then a fat load (alternating) also ephasizing carb cut-offs?

I know you've read alot of his ideas, as have i and was wondering if you thought there was much benefit in the separation issue. So far im upto 245 (220lbs in january) and my body fat has only increased slighty, using the approach.

Andy

EdgarMex
03-19-2005, 10:17 AM
Chase whats your thoughts on Dante's (aka Doggcrapp) approach to diet i.e. separating carbs and fats, i.e. doing a carb load, then a fat load (alternating) also ephasizing carb cut-offs?

I know you've read alot of his ideas, as have i and was wondering if you thought there was much benefit in the separation issue. So far im upto 245 (220lbs in january) and my body fat has only increased slighty, using the approach.


I've done some reading about it and started using that approach a few weeks ago, I can't tell much about how's it working since I'm still raising cals to bulking levels, but hopefully it'll help to keep me from getting too fat on this bulk (which what tend to happenevery time I attempt to bulk :( )

chris mason
03-19-2005, 10:30 AM
Ok, got your PM and gave you a reply. Get back with me ASAP please.

cphafner
03-19-2005, 01:53 PM
it aint sad fella, Chase is a sound guy and its a rarity that you get to see someone with alot of talent posting how they do their thing :)

Chase whats your thoughts on Dante's (aka Doggcrapp) approach to diet i.e. separating carbs and fats, i.e. doing a carb load, then a fat load (alternating) also ephasizing carb cut-offs?

I know you've read alot of his ideas, as have i and was wondering if you thought there was much benefit in the separation issue. So far im upto 245 (220lbs in january) and my body fat has only increased slighty, using the approach.

Andy

Bernardi is a big fan of this approach. I treid it for a short time, but I had a tough time finding enough protein+fat meals. I couldn't eat any more salmon salads. It sounds like a sound theory.

BCC
03-19-2005, 02:54 PM
I tried it once long ago, my old boss was big into doing it. I can't even remember the results I had it was so long ago. It's something I've considered and may give a try after these shows this summer. I'm hoping I diet hard enough to slow my metabolism down and make a big post show rebound.

Hatred
03-19-2005, 03:02 PM
Chase do you plan on growing on this cut?

Silverback
03-19-2005, 03:25 PM
It seems very logical, not sure exactly, how its working but ive upto 245lbs and still have my abs visible, which has never been possible before. i.e. going from 180-200, 200-220 etc..

I think the carb cut off has a big impact on the minimalizing fat gain. Cphafner, i usually go for whey, olive oil or flax oil shakes, or steak n veggies. not a big fan of salmon, so i just use fish oil.

Anyway soz for going off topic, just interested on some opinions. cheers

JSully
03-19-2005, 03:46 PM
It seems very logical, not sure exactly, how its working but ive upto 245lbs and still have my abs visible, which has never been possible before. i.e. going from 180-200, 200-220 etc..

I think the carb cut off has a big impact on the minimalizing fat gain. Cphafner, i usually go for whey, olive oil or flax oil shakes, or steak n veggies. not a big fan of salmon, so i just use fish oil.

Anyway soz for going off topic, just interested on some opinions. cheers

Could someone please throw me a link to this, I find it interesting so far and I'd like to read up on it.

DoUgL@S
03-19-2005, 05:24 PM
I am curious as to why are u suppersetting with the same muscle group? I am accustomed to doing opposing muscle groups when I superset.


Could someone please throw me a link to this, I find it interesting so far and I'd like to read up on it.

ST's journal is a good example, also for cutting http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/leaneating_1.htm & http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/leaneating_2.htm, and for bulking http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/masseating_1.htm & http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/masseating_2.htm

Sorry Chase don't mean to clutter your journal.

BCC
03-19-2005, 05:34 PM
Chase do you plan on growing on this cut?

Originally, yes. But I just don't think it's going to happen for a lot of reasons, mainly due to my choice of lack of drugs.

BCC
03-19-2005, 05:36 PM
I am curious as to why are u suppersetting with the same muscle group? I am accustomed to doing opposing muscle groups when I superset.


Mainly because it's the only set for a given muscle group that I'm doing. It's something new Phil has been doing which is sort of a variation on doggcrapp training. It's what he thought I should change my training to, and I don't really have any objections to it. Just about anything seems to work.

SalahG
03-19-2005, 05:37 PM
Good luck with your dieting Chase. I wish I could cut with 6k cals!

BCC
03-19-2005, 05:55 PM
3/19/05

Damnit is all I have to say about today. 7 hours of listening to 70s disco during a literal IN MY FACE SPIN-A-THON at the front desk of the YMCA. Christ I still have a headache. Not to mention it's 7:30 and I only have one meal left for the rest of the day and I'll probably be up until 1 or 2. This is bad news. Today is one of those 8k calorie days I'm going to die not having. Oh well, at least after finishing squatting all I could do was lie on the floor and watch my heart move my whole shirt.

Training - Quads, Hamstrings, Calves ...and damnit again as I write this, I forgot shoulders! ****! Oh well, I'll go do them here.

Squat/Front Squat/Squat Triple Superset (unplanned) - Warmup squats: 140x10, 230x5, 320x3.
410x8 immediately into 320x4 front squats immediately back to 315x4 back squats. I didn't hit my 8 reps front squatting, I had a feeling I wouldn't make it supersetting these two exercises, plus my breathing sounded like a dog with a kicked in trachea during the front squats. The bar was really digging into my throat for some reason. I was pissed I was only good for 4 reps, so I hopped back under for 4 more back squats.

HS lying leg curl/HS seated leg curl superset1 warmup lying.
70x10 lying, 90x10 seated.

Seated calve press/Donkey calve raise superset
250x12 seated to 400x12 donkey.

Diet

Meal 1 - 4 scoops cytogainer, 1/2 scoop whey, 2 tablespoons olive oil. 905 calories. 33 grams fat. 85.5 carbs. 65.5 protein. Multi-vitamin, 4 ETS capsules, aminos, uni-liver.

Meal 2 - See meal 1.

Meal 3 - See meal 1. (I only get one break working at the gym, but I needed to get in 3 meals, so two were shakes).

Meal 4 - 1 can tuna in olive oil, 10 ounces potatos, 1 scoop whey. 870 calories. 32.5 grams fat. 86 grams carbs. 65.5 protein. Free form aminos, uni-liver. MSM extreme joint formula.

Meal 5 - See Meal 1.

Meal 6 - 2 scoops gainer, 2 scoops whey, 1.5 tablespoons olive oil. 895 calories. 33 fat. 82 carbs. Free form aminos, uni-liver, MSM extreme joint formula.

BCC
03-19-2005, 05:56 PM
Good luck with your dieting Chase. I wish I could cut with 6k cals!

Thanks, but it will probably be more like 5k when it comes down to it :D

Stackattack
03-19-2005, 06:11 PM
Awesome squatting Chase.

Originally, yes. But I just don't think it's going to happen for a lot of reasons, mainly due to my choice of lack of drugs.
If you don't mind me asking, what the cycle going to look like? Or haven't you decided yet?

BCC
03-19-2005, 07:14 PM
I should know, but I don't lol. Probably something quite simple.

HahnB
03-19-2005, 07:15 PM
Is that cytogainer the most calorie dense gainer you've found? Might have to check it out. Workouts look intense good luck on the cut.

BCC
03-19-2005, 07:16 PM
No. Cytogainer is 610 calories a serving. The Muscle Juice is 990 per serving. The cytogainer is better for you though. Almost no sugar and barely any fat, versus tons in the Muscle Juice.

HahnB
03-19-2005, 07:38 PM
No. Cytogainer is 610 calories a serving. The Muscle Juice is 990 per serving. The cytogainer is better for you though. Almost no sugar and barely any fat, versus tons in the Muscle Juice.

The weight gainer I tried was gnc brand. The scoop was absolutely huge, a serving size was so much to drink it was easier just to make my own with whey. I was looking for something that was more dense, and less calories from sugar.

Hatred
03-19-2005, 08:13 PM
Teufelhund turned me onto Serious mass. 1200 cals a serving.
Seems like a good idea.til you get it. the scoop is the size of a coffee cup.

BCC
03-19-2005, 11:38 PM
Yeah, I hear you guys. I tried some of the GNC stuff, and I think I even tried the serious mass, and yeah those were some crazy scoops. The CytoGainer is actually relatively thick for only being 610 calories. But christ, the muscle juice even in milk is very thin even with a slightly larger scoop (not by much). I can absolutely slam those.

cphafner
03-19-2005, 11:40 PM
Teufelhund turned me onto Serious mass. 1200 cals a serving.
Seems like a good idea.til you get it. the scoop is the size of a coffee cup.

When you don't mind carbs Nlarge is good. For a leaner gainer, if you can afford it, Cytonergainer is great. I've never heard of musclejuice, sounds great for skinny bastards like me.

That leg workout is intense. I don't know how you can handle 300+ front squats, thats just crazy.

BCC
03-19-2005, 11:47 PM
LOL I didn't think I was going to handle the front squats. I even told my girlfriend before the set, "don't worry if I get burried, it's probably going to happen." She's like, "wait...what's that mean?" LOL I said it's gonna be loud, that's all.

JSully
03-20-2005, 12:58 AM
LOL I didn't think I was going to handle the front squats. I even told my girlfriend before the set, "don't worry if I get burried, it's probably going to happen." She's like, "wait...what's that mean?" LOL I said it's gonna be loud, that's all.
LOL. awesome front squats bro!

I've gotten 315 for a few before in the past but damn, not during a super set. And then a triple superset to boot! Crazy man!

Chubrock
03-20-2005, 06:21 AM
Yo Chase, do you feel you're missing anything by basing your diet more around supplements than solid food? Just was wondering, because it's hard for me to eat super clean at the dining hall on campus, so I may have to start getting a lot of my calories from somewhere else.

rookiebldr
03-20-2005, 09:19 AM
Yeah, I hear you guys. I tried some of the GNC stuff, and I think I even tried the serious mass, and yeah those were some crazy scoops. The CytoGainer is actually relatively thick for only being 610 calories. But christ, the muscle juice even in milk is very thin even with a slightly larger scoop (not by much). I can absolutely slam those.

The only thing I hated about the muscle juice was the fact I had to blend it. It always came up lumpy unless I used the blender. But I could gain a ton on those shakes 3-4 times a day.

smalls
03-20-2005, 01:54 PM
I'm gonna jump in and say I guess I'm the only one who does not envy your rediculous metabolism. I ****in hate eating, hate everything about it. I bulk on what you diet on and I can still barely pull it off. Your a machine. And since everyones on the subject of weightgainers, cytogainer is the ultimate. But just whey, milk, and oatmeal is surprisingly unfilling, I like making those shakes too. Sessions are lookin awesome bro, keep it up.

Canadian Crippler
03-20-2005, 01:58 PM
I'm gonna jump in and say I guess I'm the only one who does not envy your rediculous metabolism. I ****in hate eating, hate everything about it. I bulk on what you diet on and I can still barely pull it off.I concur. I cannot stand eating, it's like a chore however it lasts hours longer. And I'm bulking at 5000, I have no freakin clue how you bulk at 7-8k Chase.

Hatred
03-20-2005, 01:59 PM
I said that a few pages back Smalls. Cutting on 6k would suck.

ryuage
03-20-2005, 02:01 PM
but you could eat a large pizza for breakfast lunch and dinner and lose weight still :)

JSully
03-20-2005, 02:02 PM
I'm gonna jump in and say I guess I'm the only one who does not envy your rediculous metabolism. I ****in hate eating, hate everything about it. I bulk on what you diet on and I can still barely pull it off. Your a machine. And since everyones on the subject of weightgainers, cytogainer is the ultimate. But just whey, milk, and oatmeal is surprisingly unfilling, I like making those shakes too. Sessions are lookin awesome bro, keep it up.

add pb and you'll get filled up.

and milk+vanilla whey+pb+oats = awesome tasting

add some banana too and it tastes even better.

JSully
03-20-2005, 02:03 PM
but you could eat a large pizza for breakfast lunch and dinner and lose weight still :):nod:

I love the way he thinks..


Cutting at 6k/day would be awesome. Although quite expensive. I cut at 2k/day and am actually filled up most of the time due to eating large amounts of nothing but protein and pb.

BCC
03-20-2005, 04:36 PM
6k calories a day just sucks. I'm going to be glad as I start cutting some out.


Chubrock, I don't really think I'm missing out on much. I'm pretty much supplementing with everything I can to make up for any deficiencies.

Anyhow I'm really, REALLY, hoping my metabolism will slow down some after dieting hard. If 6k calories would allow me to maintain 230 that would make me very happy.

3/20/05

Today was no better at the gym with the little spin-a-thon, only I got to listen to Jesus love hits or something of the sort. Not my cup of tea. And a side note, someone needs to tell these black kids in the weight room that the medicine balls are not basketballs. I thought I was going to have to lay some smack down this evening. Very frustrating. I hate kids. That will change to "I kill kids," once I begin harvesting my bovine so to speak.

Training - Chest, Triceps, Back, Biceps[/b]

Flat Barbell/Flat Dumbell fly superset: Warmups on BB - 140x15, 230x5
280x9 Flat BB into 70x9 flat DB flys.

Weighted Dip/Pushdown superset
+100x10 drips into 180x7 pushdowns.

BB Row/Weighed (sort of)Pull-up superset (Weighted sort of because I didn't realize how hard these would be after BB rows. (225 warmup on rows)
275x10 BB rows into +45x4 pullups to bodyweight x 4.

Seated BB curls/Concentration hammer curl superset
95x9 BB into 35x5 to 30x5 on each arm.

GMCtrk
03-20-2005, 04:44 PM
When you do your BB rows, do you pull them up to your chest, or do you just pull them up to your waist like dorian?

BCC
03-20-2005, 04:51 PM
Like dorian, but a little more bent over as of late. I see no point in going to the chest. I use less weight and get less of a lat contraction that way.

GMCtrk
03-20-2005, 05:10 PM
Like dorian, but a little more bent over as of late. I see no point in going to the chest. I use less weight and get less of a lat contraction that way.

what kind of a grip do you do? Is a true yates row and underhand grip? What about doing rows with a mixed grip? Would that lead to uneven lat growth? thanks

BCC
03-20-2005, 05:28 PM
I do over hand and mixed sometimes. Mixed doesn't seem to change anything too much. A true yates row is overhand contrary to popular belief. I think he tore his bicep when doing them underhanded.

cphafner
03-20-2005, 05:29 PM
+100x10 drips

Those are some real impressive drips :zipit: Another amazing workout, I'm so jealous of your strength.

HahnB
03-20-2005, 07:49 PM
^^ya nice dips to say the least, I miss doing them:(

BilltheButcher
03-20-2005, 08:20 PM
I didn't see the diet today, are you sticking to the same diet you have had the last few days? Do you know how long you will be at 6000 cal. also kind of curious if you are doing any cardio?

GMCtrk
03-20-2005, 08:27 PM
I didn't see the diet today, are you sticking to the same diet you have had the last few days? Do you know how long you will be at 6000 cal. also kind of curious if you are doing any cardio?

winny + clen :nod:

BCC
03-20-2005, 11:15 PM
Wonderful drips they were. Not near my best, but I do these sporadically. I hope to see that number jump by 50 pounds when doing them consistently.

My diet has been identical these last 4 or so days, so I didn't bother posting it today. It was the same thing. This will probably about be my last day at 6k calories. Since that number is basically established as my daily metabolic rate.

I'm not doing any cardio, I don't know if I will at all.

TTT
03-21-2005, 02:40 AM
Just out of curiosity, has getting as big as you are affected your agility? Can you run as fast, etc. as you used to be able to?

_8_Ball
03-21-2005, 08:12 AM
I pitty the fool who gets in your way when you will be 2-3 weeks out... :)

Workouts looking ace man...

8

BCC
03-21-2005, 10:05 AM
Just out of curiosity, has getting as big as you are affected your agility? Can you run as fast, etc. as you used to be able to?

I'm 5'10, I can dunk a basketball, standing long jump 12 feet, nearly grab the rim jumping from the freethrow line, and I imagine if I started running again I could probably pull off a 4.4 40 within months of training.

So I would say it hasn't affected me, but I've always been a great athlete, if anything it has made me better.

TTT
03-21-2005, 12:46 PM
Ok. Yeah I guess in a lot of cases, having more muscle leads to proportionately more power, etc. even if you weigh more.

RuLess
03-22-2005, 05:14 AM
u need to go walk on the purdue chase.. ud make a sick ass line backer

midee1
03-22-2005, 05:20 AM
u need to go walk on the purdue chase.. ud make a sick ass line backer

Do they really make pads big enough to fit him? :evillaugh

Hell be tough Chase and go play it like rugby.

BCC
03-22-2005, 09:22 AM
I have somewhat of a personal agenda against sports, so I'll never play anything. Besides my joints and tendons can't take all the power my muscles produce, they never could. My biggest worry when I jump is landing, so I avoid jumping, running, ect. Basically anything that involves me as momentum.

I didn't post my diet yesterday either because we didn't make changes yet. It was the final day of maintenance. I also didn't train either, but will be doing so today. My ankle has been swollen since Sunday morning, I think I twisted it Saturday night :hump: ing

Today I'm starting 40 percent protein, 30 percent carbs, 30 percent fat. 5700 calories is where this will start.

Each meal is looking to be roughly: 81.5 grams protein, 27 grams fat, 61 grams of carbs.

midee1
03-22-2005, 09:45 AM
My ankle has been swollen since Sunday morning, I think I twisted it Saturday night :hump: ing


Geez now I feel really old. All I worry about after :hump:ing is did I throw my back out. :nod:

MJH
03-22-2005, 02:18 PM
My ankle has been swollen since Sunday morning, I think I twisted it Saturday night :hump: ing
LOL, how the hell did you manage that?

BilltheButcher
03-22-2005, 02:20 PM
At least you guys get to :hump: , try having a pregnant wife.

midee1
03-22-2005, 02:25 PM
At least you guys get to :hump: , try having a pregnant wife.

You can still :hump: her without the worries. :evillaugh

Trust me I have 3 kids. It never stopped us unless there was a problem during teh preg.

bill
03-22-2005, 03:35 PM
Good luck in the show BCC! Oh and I wish comp where more of what your precontest photo, I just like the more massive look.

ryuage
03-22-2005, 03:53 PM
I have somewhat of a personal agenda against sports, so I'll never play anything. Besides my joints and tendons can't take all the power my muscles produce, they never could. My biggest worry when I jump is landing, so I avoid jumping, running, ect. Basically anything that involves me as momentum.

I didn't post my diet yesterday either because we didn't make changes yet. It was the final day of maintenance. I also didn't train either, but will be doing so today. My ankle has been swollen since Sunday morning, I think I twisted it Saturday night :hump: ing

Today I'm starting 40 percent protein, 30 percent carbs, 30 percent fat. 5700 calories is where this will start.

Each meal is looking to be roughly: 81.5 grams protein, 27 grams fat, 61 grams of carbs.


thats not what you were saying when you were trying to prove you could hit your head on the ceiling :)

Hatred
03-22-2005, 03:55 PM
Damn ,beat me to it.

rookiebldr
03-22-2005, 09:33 PM
me too! lol

Patz
03-22-2005, 09:39 PM
Lol

BCC
03-23-2005, 12:17 AM
Jerks, ceiling jumping is a sport of its' own, and the only acceptable one. And I really don't know how I fudged my ankle getting busy, I guess I get a little out of hand at times.

3/22/05


Training: Quads, Hamstrings, Calves, Shoulders

Horizontal Leg Press/HS knock off leg extension superset - Warmups - 200x8, 300x8 leg press.
400(stack) x 12 leg press into 130x10 leg extension

Lying Leg Curl/Seated leg curl superset
150x12 lying into 135x10 seated

Seated calve press/seated calve raise superset
300x12 press into 100x12 raises

Dumbell upright row (3 second pause at the top)/Dumbell lateral raise superset - Warmups on both exercises with 20s.
40x10 upright into 30x10 lateral


Diet - Diet was a bit messed up today. I went over on carbs, but not by many at all.

Meal 1 - 2 scoops gainer, 2 scoops whey, 1.5 tablespoons olive oil. 895 calories. 33 fat. 73.5 protein. 82 carbs. Aminos, multi-vitamin, 4 capsules ETS, uni-liver tab, MSM extreme joint formula

Meal 2 - 3 scoops cytogainer, 4 tablespoons liquid aminos, 1 scoop whey, 2 tablespoons olive oil. 927.5 calories. 32.125 fat. 85.5 protein. 72 carbs. Aminos, uni-liver.

Meal 3 - Same as 2, but with 1.5 tablespoons olive oil. 867.5 calories. 25.125 fat. 85.5 protein. 72 carbs.

Meal 4 - See meal 3. 867.5 calories. 25.125 fat. 85.5 protein. 72 carbs.

Meal 5 - 2 scoops cytogainer, 2 scoop whey, 4 tablespoons liquid aminos, 1.5 tablespoons olive oil. 825 calories. 25.75 fat. 95 protein. 54 carbs. Aminos, uni-liver, MSM extreme joint formula.

Meal 6 - Chicken, potatos. AKA sloppy meal. 632 calories. 8 fat. 50 protein. 90 carbs.

Meal 7 - 4 scoops whey, 2.5 tablespoons olive oil. 740 calories. 41 fat. 92 protein. 12 carbs. Aminos, 4 capsules ETS, multi-vitamin.

Totals: - 5754.5 calories. 190.125 fat. 454 carbs :(. 570 protein.

I got an awful lot of tandem cardio in after my mashed potatos, so I should be okay ;)

Franco
03-23-2005, 05:47 AM
Overall looking ace mate.

Not sure if its the way you're posing but your left arm looks considerably smaller than your right, especially your tri.

Makes a change to see you smile in a posing pic, lol. Even though it does look like you're straining to poop.

Hatred
03-23-2005, 11:12 AM
You twisted your ankle humping. Didn't you break your toe screwing on the couch a year ago as well?

midee1
03-23-2005, 01:19 PM
I got an awful lot of tandem cardio in after my mashed potatos, so I should be okay ;)

Did you not learn anyting from the last time. tuttut :D

Jabberwocky
03-23-2005, 09:22 PM
88 days of pain is right, can't even get a little trim without hurting yourself.

TTT
03-23-2005, 10:18 PM
I have somewhat of a personal agenda against sports, so I'll never play anything. Besides my joints and tendons can't take all the power my muscles produce, they never could. My biggest worry when I jump is landing, so I avoid jumping, running, ect. Basically anything that involves me as momentum.


That's gotta be scary.

BCC
03-24-2005, 10:17 AM
FAngel - Thanks, I'm not sure if one is out of proportion or not. It could be how I was facing the camera, I'm not sure.

Nevermore/Midee/Jabberwocky - Yeah...there was a broken toe a while back, but it was worth it as was my ankle.

TTT - I suppose, but it's just something I avoid.

3/23/05

Notes for the day - The main thing I've noticed is I'm really not used to being hungry. I almost panick when I get hungry and start my next meal, but I have to stop myself now because it's actually okay to be hungry. A lot of protein never usually gives me bad gas, but damn this 570 gram stuff is killing me, and my girlfriend when we're in the car. But I enjoy her squeamish. Probably a little too much.

Training - Chest, Triceps, Back, Biceps

Flat BB Bench/Flat Fly superset - BB warmups: 135x15, 225x5
300x5 bleh into 70 x 9. 300 wasn't too difficult, I should have had another spotter other than my girlfriend. I'll be handling that for at least 8 in the near future.

Pushdown/Weighted Dip Superset
178 x 12 pushdowns into +45 x 10 dips.

HS underhand pulldown/Seated cable row superset
290x8 pulldowns into 190x10 seated rows

Seated BB Curl/DB Preacher Hammer curl
100x8 BB into 35x8 (with less assistance) for each hand hammer.


Diet

Meal 1 - 2 scoops gainer, 2.5 scoops whey, 1.25 tablespoons olive oil. 920 calories. 83.5 carbs. 85 protein. 30.25 fat. 4 capsules ETS, 1 multi-vitamin, free form aminos, hawthorn berry.

Meal 2 - See meal 1, but with 1.5 tablespoons olive oil. 950 calories. 83.5 carbs. 85 protein. 33.75 fat.

Meal 3 & 4 - 3 scoops cytogainer, 4 tablespoons liquid aminos, 1 scoop whey, 1 tablespoon olive oil. 807.5 calories. 72 carbs. 85.5 protein. 18.125 fat. Free form aminos, MSM extreme joint formula.

Meal 5 - See 3 & 4 but with 2 tablespoons olive oil. 927.5 calories. 72 carbs. 85.5 protein. 32.125 fat.

"Meal" 6 falling on 1/2 hour before 7 - Popcorn. :cool: 120 calories. 0 protein. 12 carbs. 7.5 fat.

Meal 7 - 4 scoops whey, 5 tablespoons liquid aminos, 2.5 tablespoons olive oil. 890 cals. 19.5 carbs. 119.5 protein. 41 fat. 4 capsules ETS, 1 multi-vitamin.

Totals - 5422.5 calories. 414.5 carbs. 546 protein. 180.875 fat.

A bit low on everything today, blah. I miscalculated some things.

Frankster
03-24-2005, 10:50 AM
Nice workout. Don't you get diarrhea with all those liquid calories ? :eek:
Why another spotter than your gf? I teached mine to give perfect spots, now everyone wants here spots lol :p well maybe they just want her boobs on top them. Either way, she spots good .

HahnB
03-24-2005, 11:49 AM
What flavor of trioplex bars do you like? They are a little expensive, but 430 calories per bar is nice.

EdgarMex
03-24-2005, 12:23 PM
A lot of protein never usually gives me bad gas, but damn this 570 gram stuff is killing me, and my girlfriend when we're in the car. But I enjoy her squeamish. Probably a little too much.

Better be careful, the EPA will be after you soon if you keep that up :p

BCC
03-24-2005, 01:42 PM
Nice workout. Don't you get diarrhea with all those liquid calories ? :eek:
Why another spotter than your gf? I teached mine to give perfect spots, now everyone wants here spots lol :p well maybe they just want her boobs on top them. Either way, she spots good .

I don't ever get diarrhea. The state of the food ingested has nothing to do with that. Brown rice and chicken seem to equal diarrhea for me.

My girlfriend isn't exactly capable of lifting 300 pounds off of me or being of much help at all. She's only been training for 2 months and is quite weak. To put things into perspective she's just getting to the point where she can now take 45s on and off equipment.

BCC
03-24-2005, 01:43 PM
What flavor of trioplex bars do you like? They are a little expensive, but 430 calories per bar is nice.

I hate them all LOL. Eating that one was a last resort. I never did like the way they taste but liked what was in them (or supposed to be anyways).

BCC
03-24-2005, 01:43 PM
Better be careful, the EPA will be after you soon if you keep that up :p

lol, they just might be the way things are going now.

lilmase1153
03-24-2005, 01:46 PM
good w/o chase

Frankster
03-24-2005, 01:46 PM
I don't ever get diarrhea. The state of the food ingested has nothing to do with that. Brown rice and chicken seem to equal diarrhea for me.

My girlfriend isn't exactly capable of lifting 300 pounds off of me or being of much help at all. She's only been training for 2 months and is quite weak. To put things into perspective she's just getting to the point where she can now take 45s on and off equipment.

Yeah true, my gf isn't super strong either, but you usually know when you're gonna fail and having 20-30 lbs lifted off the bar is usually all that a person needs to complete the rep.

BCC
03-24-2005, 01:50 PM
True, although when I fail, I like to fail big :D

BCC
03-24-2005, 09:14 PM
3/24/05

Training - Quads, Hamstrings, Calves, Shoulders

Walking Lunge/Horizontal machine leg press superset - Lunges with no weight as warmup
215 x 20 lunges straight into 300x12 leg press

Lying leg curl/Seated leg curl superset
165 x 10 lying into 135x10 seated.

Seated calve press/Seated calve raise superset
320x12 press into 115 x 12 seated.

HS knock-off military press/HS knock-off lateral raise superset
2pps x 10 military into 35 per side x 10 lateral raises.

Diet

Meal 1 - 2 scoop cytogainer, 1.5 scoops whey, 2 tablespoons olive oil, 4 tablespoons liquid aminos, 1/2 cup natural applesauce. 880 calories. 83.5 protein. 65.5 carbs. 37.75 fat. 4 capsules ETS, 1 multi-vitamin, free form aminos.

Meal 2 - 12" club on whole wheat with black olives from subway, 1.5 scoops whey, 1.5 tablespoons canola oil (ran out of olive for the moment). 945 calories. 79.5 protein. 84.5 carbs. 35.25 fat.

Meal 3 - 3 scoops cytogainer, 1 scoop whey, 4 tablespoons liquid aminos, 2 tablespoons olive oil. 927.5 calories. 85.5 protein. 72 carbs. 32.125 fat.

DoUgL@S
03-24-2005, 09:17 PM
Subway? Are you the new jared? LOL.

Broken toe, twisted ankle. Nice to see that you are as intense outside the gym as you are in it. :angel:

Jabberwocky
03-24-2005, 09:17 PM
wth, solid food viva la subway that's awesome.

cphafner
03-25-2005, 12:38 AM
Chase, I may have missed this, but what fluids do you add to your shakes?

BCC
03-28-2005, 08:53 PM
Subway? Are you the new jared? LOL.

Broken toe, twisted ankle. Nice to see that you are as intense outside the gym as you are in it. :angel:

Always ;)


Cphafner - I am making all of my shakes in water. Usually 2-3 cups of it.


3/28/05


Daily Notes - Feeling hungry is still weird. At work today our new sort manager began. He was up everyones ass big time today, yet the only thing he had to say to me was, "uh...you aren't friends with Mcguire and those guys are you?" I got a chuckle out of that.

Training - Quads, Hamstrings, Calves, Shoulders

Squat/Smith Lunge superset - Squat warmups - 135x15, 225x5, 315x5
415x6 into 225x8 per leg smith lunges

HS lying leg curl/HS seated leg curl superset
90x10 lying into 100x10 seated

Donkey Calve Raise/Seated superset
400x12 donkey into 125x8 seated

Upright row/DB lateral superset
100x10 upright into 40s x 10 laterals.

[FONT=garamond][COLOR=Navy]Diet


[size=3]Meal 1 - 3 scoops Opticen. 1 scoop Nitrean. 1 scoop gainer. 1.5 tablespoons olive oil.

Meal 2 - 3 scoops Opticen. 1 scoop Nitrean. 1.25cups applesauce. 1.5 tablespoons olive oil. 2 tablespoons liquid aminos.

Meal 3 - 3 scoops Opticen. 1 scoop Nitrean. 1 scoop gainer. 1.25cups applesauce. 1.5 tablespoons olive oil. 2 tablespoons liquid aminos.

Meal 4 - 3 scoops Opticen. 1 scoop Nitrean. 1 scoop gainer. 1.5 tablespoons olive oil.

Meal 5 - 3 scoops Opticen. 1 scoop Nitrean. 1 scoop gainer. 2 tablespoons olive oil.

I screwed the remainder of this up on paper and lost track of which meals were which. But I know I hit all my numbers for the day.

Hockey66
03-28-2005, 09:24 PM
You are one strong mofo..

Man, I don't get how you do that all liquid diet, I love food!

Stackattack
03-28-2005, 09:28 PM
You are one strong mofo..

Man, I don't get how you do that all liquid diet, I love food!

If you had to eat 6000 cals just to maintain, im pretty sure you would start to hate food very quickly. It would just be such a pain in the ass.

Strong ass workout too Chase.

Coke
03-29-2005, 05:20 AM
Impressed with the lunges after the big 435lbs squats...you could become a bad influence young man - :D

BCC
03-30-2005, 12:54 PM
3/29/05

Thanks cocoa, stack, and hockey. I don't really care about food much these days.

Daily Notes - Yes, this is yesterdays workout, I'm running a little behind, hopefully my memory serves me alright on what I did.

Training - Chest, triceps, back, biceps.

Flat BB/Machine Fly superset - BB warmups: 135x15, 225x8
275x8 Flat into 165x10 machine flys

Seated overhead tri extension/Pushdown superset
100x10 overhead into 150x7 pushdowns.

T-bar/Machine Pullover superset
190x8 t-bar into 8 reps on pullovers 1 plate shy of the stack (I don't remember the weight.)

Standing alternating DB curl/Preacher hammer curl superset
55x6 per arm alternating into 30x8 each arm preacher hammer


Diet



Meal 1 - 3 scoops Opticen, 1 scoop Nitrean, 1 scoop gainer, 2 tablespoons olive oil

Meal 2 - 3 scoops Opticen, 1 scoop Nitrean, 1.25cups applesauce, 2 tablespoons liquid aminos, 2 tablespoons olive oil

Meal 3 - 3 scoops Opticen, 1 scoop Nitrean, 1 scoop gainer, 1.5 tablespoons olive oil.

Meal 4 - See meal 3. + some fruit drink with 27 carbs.

Meal 5 - 3 scoops Opticen, 1 scoop Nitrean, 2 tablespoons olive oil.

Meal 6 - 3 scoops Opticen, 1.5 scoops Nitrean, 1 scoop gainer, 1.5 tablespoons olive oil.

Meal 7 - 2 scoops Opticen, .5cups applesauce, .5 tablespoon olive oil. And popcorn :eek:


Total - 568.2 protein. 419.2 carbs. 189.8 fat. 5657.8 calories.

Supplements: 4 capsules ETS in the AM, 4 capsules ETS in the PM. Assorted aminos throughout the day, multi-vitamin in the AM and PM.

BCC
03-30-2005, 01:03 PM
3/30/05


Daily Notes - I look like I'm holding a lot of water right now, I don't know what the deal is. Anyhow, I'm going to get some pictures up by this weekend.

Training - Quads, Hamstrings, Calves, Shoulders

Walking Lunge/Horizontal Leg press superset - Lunge warmups with 35 pound BB on back.
225x20 paces lunges into 320x10 leg press.

Lying Leg Curl/Seated Leg curl superset
180x10 lying into 150x8 seated.

Seated calve press/Seated calve raise superset
340x12 press into 125x10 seated.

Machine Military Press/Machine Lateral superset Random warmups on the press.
Stack x 12 military into 50 per side laterals.


Diet



Meal 1 - 3 scoops Opticen, 1 scoop Nitrean, 2 tablespoons olive oil.

Meal 2 - 3 scoops Opticen, 2 scoops gainer, 2 tablespoons liquid aminos, 1.5 tablespoons olive oil. Pure protein drink.

Meal 3 - 3 scoops Opticen, 1 scoop gainer, 1 scoop nitrean, 1.5 tablespoons olive oil.

Meal 4 - See meal 3.

Meal 5 - 3 scoops Opticen, 1 scoop Nitrean, 1.5 tablespoons olive oil.

Meal 6 - 8oz chicken, 1.5 tablespoons olive oil.

Meal 7 - 3 scoops Nitrean, 2 scoops gainer, 1 tablespoon olive oil.


Total - 577.5 protein. 401 carbs. 198.5 fat. 5700.5 calories.

Supplements - 4 capsules ETS in the AM, 4 capsules ETS in the PM, various aminos and 1 multi-vitamin in the AM and 1 multi-vitamin in the PM.

Hatred
03-30-2005, 01:05 PM
I still can't fathom existing and progressing on all that liquid. But,hey, if it works I'm game. Chewing sucks.
Give yer girl a dutch oven for me.

BCC
03-30-2005, 01:08 PM
She lives in the dutch oven these days. My car should now be nicknamed the dutch oven, she gets nervous riding with me, especially cause I let them all go.

heathj
03-30-2005, 01:22 PM
Can't believe you're eating so much...Those pictures in the beginning of this journal look pretty sweet man. Keep it up. Gunning for ya for Mr.Indianapolis and Mr.Indiana.

bill
03-30-2005, 04:37 PM
BCC, How is all the olive oil treating you?

cphafner
03-30-2005, 06:51 PM
Great session, how are you liking the supersets? When you do front squats, are you resting them on crossed arms or do you hold them like a snatch?

Chubrock
03-30-2005, 07:04 PM
Sessions looking quite strong man. Nice job. Heard any details about the shows yet?

_8_Ball
03-31-2005, 09:57 AM
I wonder who his sponsor is... :-)

Great sessions man... very impressive and motivating...

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BCC
03-31-2005, 01:45 PM
Can't believe you're eating so much...Those pictures in the beginning of this journal look pretty sweet man. Keep it up. Gunning for ya for Mr.Indianapolis and Mr.Indiana.

Thanks a lot Heath.


BCC, How is all the olive oil treating you?

Hopefully well lol! I feel pretty good all the time though.



Great session, how are you liking the supersets? When you do front squats, are you resting them on crossed arms or do you hold them like a snatch?

The supersets are definitely intense, I think I like them. I'm holding the bar with arms crossed on front squats, I can't really streth myself out properly to use a snatch grip. I physically can't get my arms to the position, I've tried many, many times.



Sessions looking quite strong man. Nice job. Heard any details about the shows yet?

Thanks. I haven't gotten anymore details yet, hopefully this coming month they'll get some more information out there.



I wonder who his sponsor is... :-)

Great sessions man... very impressive and motivating...

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;) Thanks man.

[[[----]]]
03-31-2005, 01:51 PM
When are you going to post some update pics bcc? What weight did you start at? What are you at now?

BCC
03-31-2005, 02:02 PM
Hopefully I'll be taking some soon. I'm in that feel like I look like **** stage right now. On my home scale I was 219 at the beginning, it looks to be 212-214 now. But I've made a lot of changes that influence water/glycogen retention, ect. So the scale isn't really telling me a thing. All I know is in my eyes I look worse now than when I started. I'm not going to psych myself out this time though, I'm going through with it.

3/31/05


Daily Notes - Blah is how I feel I look.

Training - Chest, triceps, back, biceps

Flat BB/Flat DB fly superset - Warmups - 135x20, 225x8
300x5 bench into 75x7 flys

Weighted dip/Single underhand pushdown superset
+105x10 dips into 58x8 per arm pushdowns.

HS underhand pull down/Seated Cable row superset - Pull down warm-up - 90x15
300x8 pulldowns into 180x8 seated row.

Cable curl/HS curl (single armed) superset
180x8 cable curl into 45x8 per arm HS curl.

Then some HY windshield wipers and a little ab work.

Diet



Meal 1 - 3 scoops Nitrean, 1 scoop gainer, 1.5 tablespoons olive oil, 1 cup applesauce.

Meal 2 - 3 scoops Opticen, 1 scoop gainer, 2 tablespoons olive oil.

Meal 3 - 3 scoops Opticen, 1.5 scoops Nitrean, 1.5 tablespoons olive oil, 1.25 cups applesauce.

Meal 4 - 3 scoops Opticen, 1 scoop Nitrean, 1.5 tablespoons olive oil.

Meal 5 - 3 scoops Nitrean, 2 scoops gainer, 1.5 tablespoons olive oil.

Meal 6 - 2 scoops Nitrean, 2 scoops gainer, 1 tablespoon olive oil.

Meal 7 - 8oz ground round, 1 scoop Nitrean.


Total - 574.25 protein. 423 carbs. 190 fat. 5699 calories.



Supplements - 4 capsules ETS in the AM, 4 capsules ETS in the PM. Multi-vitamin in AM and PM. Assorted aminos, hawthorn berry, milk thistle. Joint formula.

smalls
03-31-2005, 03:30 PM
Nice session bro, strength looking very good. Do you ever lose strength when dieting, or just in the very last stages?
And I know what you mean about dieting, I feel I always look worse, and as soon as I start bulking again I look way better. But most of it is just psychological bull**** and it will most defenitly be worth it. Also i'm pretty sure it's impossible for you to look bad in any way. You will do awesome at the show, have a great experience, and then just think how easy it will be to pack on muscle during the rebound. Keep up the good work.

Stackattack
04-01-2005, 12:59 AM
Nice job man. How long do your workouts usually take you?

BCC
04-01-2005, 02:14 AM
Thanks smalls. In the past I didn't really lose strength until maybe the last 3 weeks or so, although this time with tren in there, I think I'll be gaining strength for the beginning portion.

Stackattack, I work out with my girlfriend and we're usually in and out in 45 minutes which isn't bad considering I take a little time between body parts. Especially on leg day.

Here's a picture from tonight. 10 weeks out.

getfit
04-01-2005, 02:20 AM
chase that's a great pic! lighting is good! awesome! that pic should be up in in magazine!

you have to be the best looking 19yr i have ever seen honestly! PRO 100% :)

Chubrock
04-01-2005, 07:15 AM
DAMN YOU CHASE!!! You're a hoss man, plain and simple. You're gonna kill the competition.

Jabberwocky
04-01-2005, 07:36 AM
Looking awesome, props to you.

GMCtrk
04-01-2005, 07:45 AM
:eek:

Focused70
04-01-2005, 08:59 AM
I like how there's half of one cheek in the pic. :nod:

What's bf % stand at now?

If you don't take the comp, I'll eat my hat. Well...maybe not my hat, but I'll eat something. :thumbup:

Stash

_8_Ball
04-01-2005, 09:07 AM
Wow.. you look great for 10 weeks out of a contest...

You still look amazing regardless of contest shape or not...

Keep it up..

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galileo
04-01-2005, 09:37 AM
As usual, you can go **** yourself.

Coke
04-01-2005, 10:06 AM
... Gunning for ya for Mr.Indianapolis and Mr.Indiana.

BCC will take both of them shows, lol - :D

BCC
04-01-2005, 12:35 PM
Thanks a lot guys and gal (getfit).

Galileo, I would if I could ;)

I'll be happy if I just win my novice class and very happy if I can win the novice overall. Regardless I just want to get in my best shape possible.


And stash, that cheek was just for you.

TTT
04-01-2005, 01:11 PM
You're going to win this one man, I can feel it. :)
Pic was awesome.

Hatred
04-01-2005, 01:33 PM
You look really good in the pic man. I hate your clear skin.

midee1
04-01-2005, 03:19 PM
I'll have to go with everyone else on this. Damn nice shape dood. Especially at 19. :thumbup:

Relentless
04-01-2005, 04:49 PM
nice work chase

with the level of ham separation you're sporting there, as you continue to lean out your hammies will look utterly sick

Pup
04-01-2005, 04:59 PM
You continue to amaze me Chase...just awesome.

Dedicated
04-01-2005, 05:00 PM
You are like a sculpture, wow. Nice work.

Beast
04-01-2005, 05:17 PM
Looking very good, although I'm interested in seeing some front shots, yo.

chris mason
04-01-2005, 05:18 PM
Definitely looking good Chase!

rookiebldr
04-01-2005, 07:09 PM
And stash, that cheek was just for you.

Damn, I thought it was for me. ;)

Manveet
04-01-2005, 07:30 PM
Thanks smalls. In the past I didn't really lose strength until maybe the last 3 weeks or so, although this time with tren in there, I think I'll be gaining strength for the beginning portion.

Stackattack, I work out with my girlfriend and we're usually in and out in 45 minutes which isn't bad considering I take a little time between body parts. Especially on leg day.

Here's a picture from tonight. 10 weeks out.

God, that's 10 weeks out? Simply amazing!

cphafner
04-01-2005, 08:47 PM
great pic chase, back is looking real think!

BigNic
04-01-2005, 09:03 PM
whats going on man? Looking like your going all out. I too have been on an almost all liquid diet, because i dont have a lot of time, and its been working real good for me. I like your split too. Best of luck

JSully
04-01-2005, 09:23 PM
Awesome pic Chase. Just out of curiosity, is that your "rear lat spread" or just a semi-flexed pose. From what it looks, it looks like just a semi-flexed pose. I'd like to see some REAL poses from you man! Pump those muscles up with blood and take some real pics! :D

Diet is looking awesome too. I'm not sure how you go by the day eating nothing but 3 cups of applesauce, 8oz beef, and the rest all liquid. I'd be starving.

I like the training split as well, but if I did that, I would feel as if I'm not getting anything worth doing done. How do you feel after the workouts? And I don't suppose you're incorporating any cardio eh?


bastard. :( I hate cardio. I'm on 2000 cals a day, and an hour of cardio/day and still dropping slower than a snail running a marathon.

[[[----]]]
04-02-2005, 12:48 PM
Chase, have you ever had acne problems or anything?

briancurran01
04-02-2005, 01:25 PM
nice looking pic chase looking awesome man...i was hoping to maybe make it out there with some of the guys for this comp...are people still doing that?

Stackattack
04-03-2005, 12:14 AM
Christ. You look awesome man. Your gonna absolutely kill it at your show.

Sinep
04-04-2005, 09:41 AM
Chase, good luck with your contest preperation.

Herc
04-04-2005, 02:36 PM
Chase, are you sure you are not getting taller? or is it that your picture taker is shorter...:scratch:

Cutting on 6000 cals! That's more than I eat when I'm bulking!

Good luck on your prep!

:thumbup:

_8_Ball
04-05-2005, 12:14 PM
Any update? :)

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BCC
04-06-2005, 01:15 PM
TTT, Josh, midee, callahan, pup, dedicated, Chris mason, cphafner, Sinep, Stackattack, - Thanks the for the words guys. Regardless of a win or loss, I just want to look my best.

Jeff, I thought you wanted to keep it a secret, now that cat's out of the bag.

BigNic, thanks man. I don't mind the all liquid diet much either, it simplifies things.

Jake - I was working on a lat spread, I had a whole bunch of pictures of them I was taking and just posted that one. Other lat spreads I've posted have been of a different form, more similar to how you also do a lat spread. I get more width in that fashion, but lose arm and trap thickness. So I'm basically revamping my lat spread into the one I posted a picture of. I'm just working on my flexibility to try to get more of a spread because I lose some width.

I feel pretty beat after the workouts, I almost have to take 5-10 minutes between bodyparts at times. And nope, no cardio. I really doubt I'll be doing any since that's basically what my job is.

[[[----]]] - No acne problems. Not since I was a young teenager anyhow.

Brian, I'm really not sure what's going on yet. People may or may not be making a trip, hopefully we'll get it all figured out as the show comes nearer.

Herc - The camera was sitting lower than usual since I was in a different room. Although my mom keeps saying she thinks I'm taller. Plus in that back double bi picture with Nevermore (Hatred) (Josh) (******* that needs to quit changing his name) I don't look 4 inches shorter than him really and he's 6'2. So who knows.

Beast - I'll try to get some front shots up here soon. The front is what isn't lookin' too hot.

BCC
04-06-2005, 01:33 PM
4/5/05


Daily Notes - Everything still seems to be coming along okay. I notice I'm getting more vascular, but that's about it for now.

Training - Chest, triceps, back, biceps

Flat BB/Machine Fly superset - BB warmup - 135x15, 185x5, 225x8
275x9+2 assisted into 180x7 machine flys.

Overhead BB extension/Pushdown superset
110x10 overhead into 150x6 pushdowns.

Machine Row/Machine pullover superset Various warmups on the row.
Stack x 10 row into 1 plate shy of stack x 8 pullovers.

Alternating DB curl/Preacher hammer curl superset
50x8 per arm into 30x8 per arm hammer.




Diet



Meal 1 - 3 scoops Nitrean, 1 1/4 cup shredded oats cereal, 1.5 tablespoons olive oil.

Meal 2 - 2 scoop Nitrean, 2 scoops gainer, 2 tablespoons liquid aminos, 1.5 tablespoons olive oil.

Meal 3 - 2.5 scoops Nitrean, 2 scoops gainer, 1.5 tablespoons olive oil.

Meal 4 - Same as 3.

Meal 5 - Same as 4.

Meal 6 - 1/2 cup shredded oats cereal, 2.5 scoops Nitrean, 3/4 tablespoon olive oil.

Meal 7 - Tuna in olive oil, popcorn.


Total - 534.4 protein. 413 carbs. 190 fat. 5495.6 calories.

Supplements - 4 capsules ETS in AM, 4 capsules ETS in PM. Various aminos/liver tabs. Hawthorn berries, milk thistle, multi-vitamin in AM and PM.

Jabberwocky
04-06-2005, 03:24 PM
Come post contest will we provided with a posing video?

User3000
04-06-2005, 03:36 PM
Yes, if you personally film it.

heathj
04-07-2005, 01:37 PM
those shakes sound not very filling. You don't use milk or anything to help with taste or thickness?

Relentless
04-07-2005, 05:48 PM
those shakes sound not very filling. You don't use milk or anything to help with taste or thickness?

dude, Nitrean tastes pretty damn good on its own and if he's putting two scoops of gainer in there two, it'll thicken up... the carbs in the gainer add texture/mass to the shake

plus the olive oil gives ya that nice shot of EFAs and triggers a bit of a sated feeling

Chase -- have you noticed any key effects from the ETS so far?

BCC
04-13-2005, 12:52 PM
Jabberwocky - Possibly, I'll see if I can get my parents to use my digital camcorder. It turns out my girlfriend's graduation is on the same day as the Indianapolis show, so I'm needing to find someone to take backstage now so I don't know who I'll have doing what. Luckily my parents will already be in Indianapolis for business and my brother and one of his friends are also going to watch. So I should at least be able to find some help.

Heathj - Well, each shake is around 800 calories, and calories are calories so they're pretty filling. Especially with close to 30 grams of fat in each one.

Callahan - I really don't get sore at all anymore. That would have to be the main thing. But overall I feel very well. I also am not having any joint issues what so ever. The real joint test will be when I throw some stanozolol in at the end of this diet.


4/13/05


Daily Notes - I'm a bit behind on this journal right now. My diet has remained the same though, 5500 calories. I will be dropping to 5300 next week. Before I drop those calories I will post multiple pictures. I had a couple little injection mistakes which rendered my upperbody useless these last few days, so that's part of falling behind on the journal. My diet has still been spot on though. I'm looking more vascular and slightly harder.

Training - Quads, Hamstrings, Calves, Shoulders

Walking Lunge/HS knock-off leg press superset - Warmup lunges : 35lbs x 35 paces.
235x18 paces lunges/6pps x 12 reps leg press. I was so damn exhausted by the end of the lunges that I conked myself on the top of the head with the bar when throwing it off.

HS knock-off SLDL/Lying leg curl superset
180x12 SLDL into 180x12 lying leg curl.

Seated calve press/Seated calve raise superset
380x12 press into 130x10 seated.

HS knock-off lateral raise/Machine military press superset
90x12 lateral raise into Stack x 12 machine press.




Diet



Meal 1 - 3.5 scoops Nitrean, .5 cup carbo powder, 1.75 tablespoons olive oil.

Meal 2 - See meal 1.

Meal 3 - 3 scoops Nitrean, .5 cup carbo powder, 1.75 tablespoons olive oil.

Meal 4 - See meal 3.

Meal 5 - 3.5 scoops Nitrean, .5 cup carbo powder, 1.75 tablespoons olive oil.

Meal 6 - 3 scoops Nitrean, .5 cup carbo powder, 1 tablespoon olive oil.

Meal 7 - 3 scoops Nitrean, .75 tablespoon olive oil, popcorn, 2 organic cookies that were most excellent.


Total - 549.8 protein. 406 carbs. 183.5 fat. 5474.7 Calories.



Supplements - 4 capsules ETS in AM, 4 capsules ETS in PM, 1 multi-vitamin in AM and PM. Various aminos and joint formula, milk thistle, hawthorn berries, caffeine, psyllium powder.

chris mason
04-13-2005, 01:52 PM
I want to see those pics BCC.

BCC
04-14-2005, 09:14 PM
Chris, they should be up by Saturday evening, unless for some reason I wither away into a twig in the meantime.

4/14/05


Daily Notes - Nothing special today, although I'm pretty confident in how I'm looking for once.

Training - Chest, triceps, back, biceps.

Flat BB/Machine fly superset - BB warmup - 45x20, 135x20, 225x8.
295x6 flat bb into 195x8 flys.

Weighted dip/Pushdown superset
+115x9 dips into 150x10 pushdowns.

HS knock-off row/Machine Pullover superset
240x10 rows into stack x 8 pullovers.

Alternating DB curl/preacher hammer curl superset
50x8 DB curl into 25x10 preacher hammers.




Diet



Meal 1 -

Meal 2 -

Meal 3 -

Meal 4 -

Meal 5 -

Meal 6 -

Meal 7 -


Total -



Supplements -

GMCtrk
04-14-2005, 09:22 PM
strong work, but I would rather do incline over flat if i had to choose one. but who am I to tell you anything anyways? Nice work

BCC
04-14-2005, 09:25 PM
I do prefer incline over flat, but I dislike the incline bench at the new gym I workout at. Actually I don't like any of the benches, which is part of why my numbers are always lower in this gym compared to when I workout at the Ymca.

GMCtrk
04-14-2005, 09:28 PM
I do prefer incline over flat, but I dislike the incline bench at the new gym I workout at. Actually I don't like any of the benches, which is part of why my numbers are always lower in this gym compared to when I workout at the Ymca.

I don't even bother with the incline BB my gym has, the angle is much too steep. That's why I go with the adjustable bench and do Db's at about 30 degrees :)