View Full Version : Are there girls that don't cheat?
Simple
03-24-2005, 03:38 PM
Title is stupid I know, and the question is dumb also. But my girlfriend just cheated on me and well I just can't believe it. A perfect 2 years, no problems or anything, and all of a sudden she cheats. What is the deal with girls. It seems every girlfriend I have ever had has cheated on me!
And no, I do satisfy them in "that way", I make sure of it. So why do they cheat? I know guys cheat too, but I have never and will never cheat.
Built
03-24-2005, 03:40 PM
I don't. I've been with my husband now for almost 12 years. Married my best friend.
Girls don't usually cheat for sexual gratification - they cheat because they aren't getting the attention they feel they need.
The guys who take advantage of this know how to pour it on thick.
My .02
monotone
03-24-2005, 03:41 PM
youve just had bad luck
getfit
03-24-2005, 03:42 PM
never
A lot of it depends on your age and maturity (and theirs as well obviously). There are a lot of variables, but there are definitely women who won't cheat, just like there are men who won't. You've just run into bad luck.
muscle chic
03-24-2005, 03:53 PM
It seems to me that there are alot of people out there out for themselves and they don't care if your "married" or have a mate. I'm very forward about being married and "happy" and guys still seem to try and put the moves on. Some woman are "weak" when it comes to a "smooth talking guy" thinking that she'd be better off with him. On the other hand I see groups of girls at the gym "flirting" with married men. ( knowing they are married. A lot of people really just suck!! Don't get me wrong a degree of flirtation is ok ( we're human) but too much can lead to other things.
Brawl
03-24-2005, 03:55 PM
Dump that trick a$$ slut . You chose poorly .
There are lots of good women .
Now go throw it in her best friend .
HahnB
03-24-2005, 03:55 PM
Title is stupid I know, and the question is dumb also. But my girlfriend just cheated on me and well I just can't believe it. A perfect 2 years, no problems or anything, and all of a sudden she cheats. What is the deal with girls. It seems every girlfriend I have ever had has cheated on me!
And no, I do satisfy them in "that way", I make sure of it. So why do they cheat? I know guys cheat too, but I have never and will never cheat.
There are girls out there who don't pull that stuff, but they are few and far between. The hardest part for you is trusting another girl after this one.
its not that serious for a girl to cheat, its so easy for her. A man really has to do some work to get it. But women with education cheat less I think.
Focused70
03-24-2005, 04:29 PM
Why does it always have to be girls? Why not guys?
Soylent green iz people, people. :p
Stash
MrWebb78
03-24-2005, 04:36 PM
Why does it always have to be girls? Why not guys?
Soylent green iz people, people. :p
Stash
85% of guys cheat, while maybe 60% of women do.
a mans ego is more crushed than a womans heart is by an affair. thus making men more angry at female cheaters.
as for the original poster, one of two things is happening: 1) you have bad luck, or 2) look inside yourself and see what you may have done to cause a woman to stray. honesty and humility are absolutely necessary for this kind of self analysis.
Webb I recent that, I think women cheat alot more. But its an old cliche that the man cheats more.
MrWebb78
03-24-2005, 04:42 PM
Webb I recent that, I think women cheat alot more. But its an old cliche that the man cheats more.
in countless anonymous surveys (where people are proven to be far more honest), men are always anywhere between 20-30% more likely to cheat. as men it gives us a bad wrap and makes us have more to prove to land a trusting relationship, but if you are a good guy, and i know you are, you should have nothing to get upset about.
looking at personal relationsips, friends/family etc....this statistic proves true with people i know.
Cheating is just one of those things that don't necessarily make sense at first but after a while you see how it happened. As Built said, maybe she wasn't getting the type of attention she needed...you may have been Casanova in the sack, but something was missing for her. It also could have been a situation in which she wanted to get out and the easiest way for her to do that was to cheat, its shady and stuff, but its not out of the question.
IMO, communication breakdown is often the greatest factor for break-ups. You said that you thought everything was perfect, but did you and her talk about the relationship or was it just going through the motions of being a couple. Your idea of perfect and her idea of perfect may have been two different things. These are all things to consider.
I personally am not a cheater, as that is what broke up the marriage of my parents and caused major rifts in my family...but i do believe that some people use it as an escape, either to make it easier to end a relationship or because their lives are so mundane they feel trapped.
Hopefully the next girl you are able to trust (which might take a very long time) is honest and open with you, open communication is the key to a successful relationship.
DoUgL@S
03-24-2005, 05:53 PM
Title is stupid I know, and the question is dumb also. But my girlfriend just cheated on me and well I just can't believe it. A perfect 2 years, no problems or anything, and all of a sudden she cheats. What is the deal with girls. It seems every girlfriend I have ever had has cheated on me!
And no, I do satisfy them in "that way", I make sure of it. So why do they cheat? I know guys cheat too, but I have never and will never cheat.
I do not mean to be a jerk but she probably cheated before you caught her too. Like pup and built said, there must have been a communication issue because most of the time it doesn't come out of nowhere. It builds for some time before things happen. There are girls who do not cheat and who are mature enough to break it off before moving on. There will be a girl who cares for you so much cheating will not enter her mind, now go find her and make sure you communicate.
Most girls cheat.. but its not like your married or anything so find a new girl and move on.
Praetorian
03-24-2005, 07:12 PM
There are 3 things in life that you can always be sure of :
- taxes
- death
- chicks will cheat
just get used to it.
mrelwooddowd
03-24-2005, 07:24 PM
I don't. I've been with my husband now for almost 12 years. Married my best friend.
Girls don't usually cheat for sexual gratification - they cheat because they aren't getting the attention they feel they need.
The guys who take advantage of this know how to pour it on thick.
My .02
Built hit it right on the head. Women "emotionally" cheat first, and the sex follows. Men are just looking for something to stick it in. It's part of our most basic human instincts, and unfortunately a lot of people can't control them.
Hatred
03-24-2005, 07:46 PM
85% of guys cheat, while maybe 60% of women do.
a mans ego is more crushed than a womans heart is by an affair. thus making men more angry at female cheaters.
as for the original poster, one of two things is happening: 1) you have bad luck, or 2) look inside yourself and see what you may have done to cause a woman to stray. honesty and humility are absolutely necessary for this kind of self analysis.
Put it on your calendar. I totally agree with Webb.
There are lots of wonderful women out there.
You just have to be an ******* to land them.
Consider this. I have never been cheated on and probably deserve it.
briancurran01
03-24-2005, 08:25 PM
women cheat and lie all the time..look at me 12 years with the first girl i ever loved then she ****s me over
ps like i said before except for the sweet women here like getfit, reeza. built, muscle chick...etc.
Miss Rezza
03-24-2005, 08:40 PM
never have, never will
neartaigh
03-24-2005, 08:53 PM
Girls don't usually cheat for sexual gratification - they cheat because they aren't getting the attention they feel they need.
The guys who take advantage of this know how to pour it on thick.
My .02
:withstupi
chops
03-24-2005, 10:48 PM
:withstupi
:withstupi x2
Built
03-24-2005, 11:00 PM
women cheat and lie all the time..look at me 12 years with the first girl i ever loved then she ****s me over
ps like i said before except for the sweet women here like getfit, reeza. built, muscle chick...etc.
My first husband left me on Christmas Eve for another woman.
Women have no patent on being as5holes.
JSully
03-24-2005, 11:15 PM
My first husband left me on Christmas Eve for another woman.
Women have no patent on being as5holes.
That's not cool.
Built
03-24-2005, 11:20 PM
SO not cool.
Then he wanted me back.
Word up: when you leave your wife on Christmas Eve for another woman, consider that bridge burned - she's not COMING back!
I'm fine now - I've been married to my best friend for the last almost 9 years. But at the time, lemme tell you, I was DEVASTATED.
smalls
03-24-2005, 11:50 PM
My first husband left me on Christmas Eve for another woman.
Women have no patent on being as5holes.
They seem to always pick the best occasions huh? (not that there is really a good time for it)
It's just too hard to generalize a whole gender. Women cheat, men cheat. At the end of the day it comes down to lacking the ability to make the right decision.
A friend said an interesting thing to me a while back. He was concerned about getting married cuz he didnt trust HIMSELF, that's just sad. I trust myself 100%, I never have and never will cheat.
But someone will cheat on you... or cheat with you!
largelegsbuthot
03-25-2005, 01:23 AM
Consider this. I have never been cheated on and probably deserve it.
Or so you think, consider this...
WOMEN ARE INCREDIBLY GOOD AT LYING.
The sad thing is, most of the time, we feel wrongfully justified when we do it.
It's almost like it's not really lying, or being dishonest because you probably
deserved it.
Silverback
03-25-2005, 01:53 AM
Dump that trick a$$ slut . You chose poorly .
There are lots of good women .
Now go throw it in her best friend .
This is the best option and opinion in the thread! lol
Simple
03-25-2005, 05:29 AM
Thanks guys!:)
The first time(I know of) she went out with him she was dressed really really sexy and told me she was going to work. Instead of going to work she went out with him. Then they went out two more times after that she said. She "says" they didn't even kiss, but I dunno I've never been out with just me and a girl and NOT kissed them. I mean a kiss is very normal thing, especially if you go out and it's just you and a girl. And three times? I bet there was more than that. Sigh.
On the upside I've started working out and running again, and that's why I came here. Maybe I should start a journal. Anyways I'm gonna move on. Just the fact that she would dress soooo sexy to go out with another guy and then lie to me about where she was makes me upset. Also the fact that she missed work, she would NEVER miss work for me.
I'm a decent looking guy, a bit on the heavy side, but not bad looking. I think I will find another girl.
EDIT: the poll results are great:)
Gyno Rhino
03-25-2005, 05:34 AM
Yes, there are women out there who won't cheat.
crazedwombat
03-25-2005, 06:27 AM
man, if I caught the dude that caused my woman to cheat on me (if for some whack reason she did) I would do my best to make sure he doesnt walk again...and it cant be traced back to me.
briancurran01
03-25-2005, 07:58 AM
My first husband left me on Christmas Eve for another woman.
Women have no patent on being as5holes.
built: thats messed up...men like that deserve to have their nuts chopped off.
Gyno Rhino
03-25-2005, 09:00 AM
A claim like that is quite severe, Brian.
I'm not saying that Built's first husband doesn't deserve it - he certainly may. But keep in mind that we're only hearing half of the story (not discounting Built's reputation or integrity here, but we ARE only hearing half). Until we know why the husband left, it's kinda hard to chop off his balls and be justified.
briancurran01
03-25-2005, 09:09 AM
well IMO i think men that treat women ****ty like that should have their balls cut off, I mean aholes like that some times get nice women and that leaves guys like me that know how to treat a woman, to get ****ed over...like i did by Kristin.
man, if I caught the dude that caused my woman to cheat on me (if for some whack reason she did) I would do my best to make sure he doesnt walk again...and it cant be traced back to me.
This is one thing I've never understood. Why be pissed at that guy? It takes two to tango, a guy doesn't "cause" a woman to cheat on her significant other all his own. If anything she needs kicked to the curb.
Gyno Rhino
03-25-2005, 09:15 AM
well IMO i think men that treat women ****ty like that should have their balls cut off, I mean aholes like that some times get nice women and that leaves guys like me that know how to treat a woman, to get ****ed over...like i did by Kristin.
I agree that a man that treats his woman badly deserves punishment - and in many cases I'd say a ballsackectomy would be appropriate.
But I was referring to your judgment on that specific case - you were ready to lop off the guy's sack before you'd read more than five sentences on the subject.
That'd be like one of us posting that Kristin deserves to be burned alive for what she did to you - we only heard your half of the story. I'm not saying you're in the wrong, I'm saying that making a judgment on half of the story is NEVER a good idea.
Gyno Rhino
03-25-2005, 09:16 AM
This is one thing I've never understood. Why be pissed at that guy? It takes two to tango, a guy doesn't "cause" a woman to cheat on her significant other all his own. If anything she needs kicked to the curb.
I'd be more angry with my gal if she cheated, but that sure as hell doesn't absolve the guy of guilt. If he knew of my involvement and then went ahead anyway, he's in a bad spot.
well IMO i think men that treat women ****ty like that should have their balls cut off, I mean aholes like that some times get nice women and that leaves guys like me that know how to treat a woman, to get ****ed over...like i did by Kristin.
The women do it to themselves, they don't deserve to be treated any better than they allow themselves.
I'd be more angry with my gal if she cheated, but that sure as hell doesn't absolve the guy of guilt. If he knew of my involvement and then went ahead anyway, he's in a bad spot.
I can only slightly agree because regardless of what the guy does or doesn't know of the others' involvement, her answer should be, "get lost."
The situation does change a bit when intoxication is part of it and someone was getting pushy. But not by much. A person should still be able to control themself. If not, then maybe drug abuse is more the problem at hand which is another problem in itself.
Gyno Rhino
03-25-2005, 09:26 AM
Sure.
But still, the guy knows he's doing a wrong (assuming your gal hasn't lied about your existence). It's a slap in the face. Certainly calls for some action.
J450n
03-25-2005, 09:27 AM
^ True but she shouldn't get off lightly.
Gyno Rhino
03-25-2005, 09:28 AM
Oh, don't think I'm saying she wouldn't.
She'd get it twice as bad as the guy would.
In fact, if it happened to me, they'd both likely end up dead.
nejar462
03-25-2005, 09:31 AM
I never cheat, and I'm horny as all hell. Cheating is extraordinarily painful for your significant other and if you do it you must have some sort of hatred for the person you're going out with or you don't fully realize what you're doing. I'm 100% sure I can find a girl who feels the same way I do.
smalls
03-25-2005, 09:47 AM
But someone will cheat on you... or cheat with you!
I've already been cheated on, and I doubt it will be the last time (if I let women back in my life, lol)
This is one thing I've never understood. Why be pissed at that guy? It takes two to tango, a guy doesn't "cause" a woman to cheat on her significant other all his own. If anything she needs kicked to the curb.
I agree, it falls more on the girl. Best to just move on and learn from it.
briancurran01
03-25-2005, 10:01 AM
I agree that a man that treats his woman badly deserves punishment - and in many cases I'd say a ballsackectomy would be appropriate.
But I was referring to your judgment on that specific case - you were ready to lop off the guy's sack before you'd read more than five sentences on the subject.
That'd be like one of us posting that Kristin deserves to be burned alive for what she did to you - we only heard your half of the story. I'm not saying you're in the wrong, I'm saying that making a judgment on half of the story is NEVER a good idea.
Good point Gyno, I agree.
ps Kristin does deserve to be burned alive though :)
lol j/k
Built
03-25-2005, 12:32 PM
FWIW, here's some background:
The ex and I were long haul truck drivers. Used to pull cedar shake from BC to Ontario, and coiled steel from Hamilton back to the west coast.
He was on the road more than me (I was waitressing mostly back then - no education and all) and he met somebody on the road.
Started acting like a complete prick and I couldn't figure out why. This was when I was 23 years old. Anyway, he waits for us to both be totally stoned on weed, Christmas presents under the tree, family coming over for dinner, whole thing, before he drops the bomb - "I don't love you, I've met somebody else".
Nice eh?
I had to make dinner the next day for the family, and I couldn't eat. I told everybody I had the flu - I didn't want to wreck Christmas for our families.
It was just ghastly.
**************
It gets better though. I managed to guilt-trip him into staying - something I would NEVER do now, but I was young.
Anyway, he stayed but it was DREADFUL. He wouldn’t TOUCH me.
Meanwhile, I met somebody who started flirting up a storm with me (remember, I was dealing with a husband who had TOLD me he didn’t love me anymore, AND wouldn't touch me, but I didn't start anything with the new guy because I was married, and I told him to hold on while I sorted things out at home).
I spoke to my ex and said, "Okay, here's the deal. You can leave, but make SURE it's what you want to do, because I will NEVER take you back". I wasn't all crying and sh!t - I was really calm.
Anyway, he went back on the road to go find his woman, and I started things up with the new guy, 'cause I was free now.
Things were going pretty good with the new guy, and a few months later, X shows up on my doorstep.
Now I have to backtrack a bit - on my first date with X, he was telling me about this chick he kept breaking up with and getting back together with.
I told him a joke I had heard "Yanno, when people go back to dead relationships over and over again, isn't it the same as when you go to the fridge in the morning to get milk for your cereal, and it's sour. You don't put it back in the fridge and say "tomorrow it'll be fresh", do you?"
X thought it was really funny. At the time.
Then here it is, like, April or something, and this 6'2" truck driver is on his knees begging me to come back.
This was the conversation:
Him: I can't believe the mistake I've made
Me: "believe it."
Him: “I have no-one to blame but myself”
Me: “No, you don't.”
Him: “I want you back.”
Me: “Yanno, when you take the milk out of the fridge to pour on your breakfast cereal....”
Him: <collapses, defeated>
It was very redeeming.
And no need at all for a ball-ectomy – but thanks for the sentiment just the same Brian. This was one of those glorious, rare situations where time wounds all heels.
I even asked him what the problem was, years later when we were dealing with the legalities (we got a no-contest divorce - I held out until HE paid the 300 bucks or whatever it was for it though. After that one, I didn't care if I ever married again).
He sighed and said he didn't know.
He literally pined over me for years - sent me "Happy Anniversary" cards for, like, 3 years after he left me.
Go figure, eh?
Gumby
03-25-2005, 12:40 PM
Well Well, this subject hits home. After 3 years and an engagement ring I was cheated on less than 3 months ago. I'm just now starting to get over it and the bad thing is, I know she'll try to come back and no matter how tough I act now I don't honestly don't know what my decision will be when the time comes to cross that bridge.
Built
03-25-2005, 12:54 PM
There is no bridge. She burned it by cheating on you. She has clearly demonstrated that she WILL cheat on her man. The only question is if she'll do it again, and I wouldn't be prepared to take that risk, myself.
I also wouldn't want to reward that kind of behaviour.
You'll be more proud of yourself for walking away from this one. Think of it like she did you a favour. My ex did - I'm married now to my best friend, going on 9 years this April. I wouldn't have him if my X hadn't cheated, and my current husband is my angel.
Gumby
03-25-2005, 01:01 PM
There is no bridge. She burned it by cheating on you. She has clearly demonstrated that she WILL cheat on her man. The only question is if she'll do it again, and I wouldn't be prepared to take that risk, myself.
I also wouldn't want to reward that kind of behaviour.
You'll be more proud of yourself for walking away from this one. Think of it like she did you a favour. My ex did - I'm married now to my best friend, going on 9 years this April. I wouldn't have him if my X hadn't cheated, and my current husband is my angel.
Well here's the story. She claims she ended because I was too controlling and jealous. BUT things started going downhill when she became friends with a guy, and after we broke up they started hanging out alot more and I always hear "WE'RE JUST FRIENDS!"....Seems awefully coincidental huh?
gopher
03-25-2005, 02:47 PM
Dump that trick a$$ slut . You chose poorly .
There are lots of good women .
Now go throw it in her best friend .
:withstupi
Excellent advice!
damnit I wish Brawl was my friend in real life.
ryuage
03-25-2005, 04:38 PM
i would like to hope so
Brawl
03-25-2005, 04:50 PM
No you guys dont ... right after I posted that , carrie saw it and is making me wash her feet , do the dishes , laundry and go to the womens expo downtown so I can learn how to be a more sensitive man .
I'm a shell of a man .
she became friends with a guy
Opposite sex friendships? Im sorry but I couldnt handle that. If we are all together thats one thing, of course. But hanging alone with some guy, phone calls and all that, no way. I dont care if it makes me a bad guy or whatever, theres just no way.
Work lunch things are another matter. Then again alot of affairs start at the office.
I would really hate to be called not trusting by the way, because I really am. Maybe I need therapy :scratch:
hahaha Brawl, I mean you are pro bush and I am mostly against him, but still, you just rock man, you just..damnit lets go bust some crackheads!
lynnlynn7
03-26-2005, 12:53 PM
Well Well, this subject hits home. After 3 years and an engagement ring I was cheated on less than 3 months ago. I'm just now starting to get over it and the bad thing is, I know she'll try to come back and no matter how tough I act now I don't honestly don't know what my decision will be when the time comes to cross that bridge.
I don't mean to get all Dr. Phil on you, but past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior.
Built- great life experience story. I guess it goes to the old saying that what doesn't kill us makes it stronger.
Built
03-26-2005, 01:03 PM
Opposite sex friendships? Im sorry but I couldnt handle that. If we are all together thats one thing, of course. But hanging alone with some guy, phone calls and all that, no way. I dont care if it makes me a bad guy or whatever, theres just no way.
Work lunch things are another matter. Then again alot of affairs start at the office.
I would really hate to be called not trusting by the way, because I really am. Maybe I need therapy :scratch:
It might be different for you copper, if she had always had male friends.
Most of my friends are men. Always have been. Hubby and I were in the same circle of friends when we started dating. His friends were, and are, MY friends too. It's normal for us, so it's never been an issue if I go over and hang out with my male buddies for a meal or a workout - we're all friends with each other's spouses, anyway. It's just nice. But we don't have any jealousy issues with each other, so it's cool.
Isaac Wilkins
03-26-2005, 01:24 PM
No you guys dont ... right after I posted that , carrie saw it and is making me wash her feet , do the dishes , laundry and go to the womens expo downtown so I can learn how to be a more sensitive man .
I'm a shell of a man .
Brawl is hoping that you guys think he's making this up.
I've met both him and Carrie. He's not.
/pwned.
;)
PowerManDL
03-26-2005, 02:07 PM
Well here's the story. She claims she ended because I was too controlling and jealous. BUT things started going downhill when she became friends with a guy, and after we broke up they started hanging out alot more and I always hear "WE'RE JUST FRIENDS!"....Seems awefully coincidental huh?
http://alabamadrinkingteam.com/forum/cms_view_article.php?aid=9
monotone
03-26-2005, 03:41 PM
that thread about the albama drinking team is pure gold
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