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vypergts
03-25-2005, 04:44 PM
What ratio of fat/carbs/protien is recommended for a bulking diet? Should I try to eat as clean as possible or take in the occasional junk food? Basically am I better off with more calories with some junk food or slightly less with a cleaner diet? I'm thinking about ordering pizza tonight :)

To give you an idea the last 2 days have been:

2426 cals 92fat/242carbs/159protien
2599 cals 68fat/332carbs/157protien

I'm currently 6'0 150lbs, I believe i was eating around 2000/day before and I'm aiming for 2500/day now.

Double D
03-25-2005, 04:58 PM
2,500 isnt much at all for a bulk diet even at your weight. you should be eating about 3, 000. As for the ratio, its kinda up to you, and how well your body processes carbs. Some ppl can eat a lot and not get fat, some cant. Lots of people recomment 50% carbs, 30% protein, 20% fat. Start there and tweek it depending on how you feel you process carbs.

It is good to eat as clean as possibly, but occasionaly you need a cheat day to keep your sanity, say once a week.

GMCtrk
03-25-2005, 05:04 PM
Isocaloric works well for me

pruneman
03-26-2005, 07:39 AM
The ratios arent too important as long as you have an overall calorie surplus. Some general guidelines would be to get 1-1.5g protein per pound of bodyweight. For you that would be about 150-200g. Your fat intake should be 30%. After that, fill the rest of your diet with carbs.

no regrets
03-26-2005, 03:03 PM
At 150 pounds an occasional pizza will not kill you while on a bulk either, enjoy it.

Vido
03-26-2005, 03:43 PM
The ratios arent too important as long as you have an overall calorie surplus. Some general guidelines would be to get 1-1.5g protein per pound of bodyweight. For you that would be about 150-200g. Your fat intake should be 30%. After that, fill the rest of your diet with carbs.

:withstupi

Built
03-26-2005, 04:13 PM
I manipulate the fat-to-carb ratio in my diet for satiety. Protein is always high.

If I'm trying to eat MORE, I drop the fats a bit because lower-fat makes me hungrier. If I'm cutting, I up the fats because it's easier to feel fed longer. I never go much lower than about 30-35% of cals from fat though - good fats are good for your body, period.

In either event, I keep protein in the 1-1.5g/pound range, usually closer to 1.5g per pound.

Treat fat as a caloric ballast. Bulking or cutting, protein and carbs are the major players in the muscle game.

My .02

vypergts
03-27-2005, 12:08 AM
Thanks for the advice. I had some pizza, 5 slices of an 8 slice pizza. I used the nutritional info from the pizza comany's website for Fitday. It came to 1900 cals, 70g fat, 195carbs and 160g of protien! Does that sound high to anyone or is it just me? Assuming its right I practically hit my protien goal just from the pizza itself, oh it was a sicilian meats pizza if that helps heres the link to the info:

http://www.papajohns.com/menu/productshots/sicilianmeats.html

Shao-LiN
03-27-2005, 12:11 AM
I would probably still eat other sources of protein. A pizza shouldn't be your sole source of calories, at least in my opinion.

Vido
03-27-2005, 01:33 AM
I had some pizza, 5 slices of an 8 slice pizza. I used the nutritional info from the pizza comany's website for Fitday. It came to 1900 cals, 70g fat, 195carbs and 160g of protien! Does that sound high to anyone or is it just me?

It's just you.

Joe Black
03-27-2005, 02:56 AM
I tend to go for 40/40/30 - protein, carbs and fat.

Vido
03-27-2005, 02:57 AM
I tend to go for 40/40/30 - protein, carbs and fat.

110% eh Daniel? ;)

Built
03-27-2005, 03:03 AM
Hey, at least you know he's giving it his all... ;)

Vido
03-27-2005, 03:04 AM
and then some :p

Hockey66
03-27-2005, 03:19 AM
I tend to go for 40/40/30 - protein, carbs and fat.

Pops always told me to give'r 110% too. ;)

vypergts
04-06-2005, 09:51 AM
After a little more time with the diet I find daily I have to fight to keep my fat in the low 30%s. I usually wind up eating a lot of starches late in the day too, rice/potatoes etc. to try to get a lot of calories without fat. I'm just worried if I ignore fat I'll wind up putting too much on :) Am I better off letting my fat % wander up into the 40s range to get in more calories or fighting to keep it low?

vypergts
04-07-2005, 12:17 PM
anyone?

dw06wu
04-07-2005, 12:20 PM
30% is good as long as you are getting around 80g a day (good fats, not saturated) or more depending on your LBM. Otherwise, you will probably want to up the percentage if you aren't making that figure.

Built
04-07-2005, 01:32 PM
I like higher fats, personally.

And saturated fats can be good fats - TRANS fats, on the other hand, are plastic.

No margarine, no shortening, no crappy peanutbutter.

Stick to healthy, natural fats (olive oil, avocadoes, natty PB, nuts, butter) and you should be fine.

dw06wu
04-07-2005, 02:04 PM
I try to avoid more than 15g-20g a day of saturated because it sticks to my chest and ass like white on rice.