Vasopro Ephedrine HCl??

[Mic Soloist]

Im currently cutting. Right now I'm just taking lipo-6. I have heard MANY great things about Vasopro, but I'm a little nervous about using it due to the dangers.

My question is... how safe is this product? What are the risks? How can I avoid having problems? Is it truly a safe product to use in a stack with Lipo-6?


Any and all advice or anything that could help would be great. I would love to use this product to assist my fat loss, but I value safety first.

[Built]

What's lipo 6?

And what is the size of your Ephedrine HCL tabs?

[Mic Soloist]

i dont have any yet. I was going to order these: http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=50

lipo-6 is this http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=1338

[Built]

Okay, the Ephedrine HCL is 25 mg.

The standard stack is 20mg Ephedrine with 200 mg caffeine.

Ah - now I see the link for the other stuff. Each one has 200 mg caffeine in it. Okay.

I'd just try the ephedrine with 200 mg caffeine first.

If that's okay, you could try 25 mg Ephedrine with the lipo stuff INSTEAD of the caffeine - the yohimbine with ephedrine might have more of a kick than you're prepared for. Some folks like it together, some folks like to keep 'em separate.

This way, you'll know how Yohimbine and caffeine feels, and you'll know how Ephedrine and caffeine feels, so you can try Yohimbine, Caffeine and Ephedrine as a bigger stack later.

You know to keep Yohimbine away from carbs, right?

[Mic Soloist]

no, what do u mean? Am I supposed to not have any carbs? And what exactly is Yohimbine


And also, what are the dangers or Yohimbine ?

What are the dangers or Ephedrine?

How can I protect myself from any problems while using?

[Built]

Yohimbine is one of the active ingredients in your lipo6.

Yohimbine and Caffeine in a stack are good for AM empty cardio, but Yohimbine stimulates more insulin to be produced for a given amount of carbohydrate than would have been produced in the absence of the yohimbine. So you don't want any carbohydrate to be consumed near it.

You would eliminate the risks by not taking it. You would reduce the risk by following the protocol I suggest - try Y+C (which you've already done with the lipo6), try E+C, THEN try E+Y+C.

[Mic Soloist]

I was curious about the side effects and/or dangers of yohimbine and ephedra.

So I shouldn't take the lipo-6 within a couple of hours of taking in any carbs?

If so, that sucks because I take it in the morning with oatmeal.

[Mic Soloist]

i have had an anxiety disorder in the past. I was wondering if these products could cause a problem

[Built]

Ephedrine + Caffeine will not have the same effect on insulin. Why not just do that? It works well, it's cheap, and it's been around for a long time.

[Built]

i have had an anxiety disorder in the past. I was wondering if these products could cause a problem
Yes, it can.

Cut the 25mg Ephedrine in half, try it with a single cup of coffee. See how you feel, and titrate up the dose.

[Mic Soloist]

I see. Problem is I already spent 40 bucks on the lipo-6. I have read many good reviews and I am liking the results so far. I had slight anxiety the first day, but I've been pretty good since then. I've noticed increased concentration and I feel like I can stay on task more. My energy level has been through the roof as well. I like the results SO FAR. I have lost about 7 pounds in my 3 weeks of cutting, and maybe 1/2 inch on my waist.

I guess Im doing decent so far, but I was wanting to kick it up a notch. I just read that the yohimbine can cause some anxiety. I guess that would be with a higher dose, because it hasnt effected me much at this point.

The dangers I've read about with Ephedra kind of scare me away. If I could know it would be safe to take 10-15mg ephedrine everyday with my lipo-6 I would do it.

If nothing else, should I stop taking lipo-6 with my morning meal? And take it when I am not eating carbs with an hour or so of ingestion?

[Built]

Why not skip carbs for the morning meal? I only eat fat and protein for mine. You could get up, have your lipo-6, do some cardio, come back, eat protein and fat, then in your NEXT meal, have the oats.

Regarding Ephedrine HCL - I've had no trouble whatsoever taking up to 96 mg Ephedrine daily, for months at a time.

But I haven't tried Yohimbine yet - that's next.

[Built]

Oh, and Ephedra And Ephedrine are similar, but let's be clear here: Ephedrine HCL is the drug, and it's prepared in a lab, in standardized doses.

Ephedra is a plant, and the herbal source of Ephedrine.

Read up on the E-C stack on drumlib (google drumlib and ephedrine).

E-C is one of the safest anti-obesity drugs you can take. It's been widely studied for decades.

But all drugs are part poison. It's good to be informed.

[Mic Soloist]

i can cut the carbs out of my morning meal with no problem. But I also have to take the lipo-6 in the afternoon. So should I just avoid carbs within 1 hour before of after taking the pill?

[Built]

I'd say at least an hour before and after.

When do you train?

[Built]

http://www.1fast400.com/p107_Yohimbine_HCl_Caps_1Fast400.html

[Mic Soloist]

I'd say at least an hour before and after.

When do you train?


i usually train at night. Around 11-12

Cardio times vary.

[Shao-LiN]

Ephedrine with lipo 6 works fine. Many use it as a stack with great success. Yohimibine does work better on a limited carb diet, but it's nothing to get in a fuss over, really.

[Built]

Thanks Shao Lin. I'm going to be starting with Yohimbine soon, but I'm very concerned with the insulin thing because I'm insulin resistant - more insulin for me just means more opportunity for fat storage, which is exactly what I DON'T want.

I still think he'd be better off trying E+C first to see how he reacts to it so he'll know what the difference is when he stacks the E+C+Y.

Just to be on the safe side.

I'm a big fan of wasting a day to see how something reacts in my body.

My .02

[Shao-LiN]

I agree. Starting off slowly to assess your tolerance is always a good approach. Some people do not favor the jittery reaction to combining both ephedrine and yohimbine. So, always best to start small and work your way up.

[I_feel_nothing]

Ever had 4 cups of coffee within an hour? If you did, then you can handle it. Especially if you're in good shape, or decent shape. If you've never taken ephedrine before then start with small dosages and work your way up. Its not nearly the **** that the media has made it out to be. I take 1 25mg ephedra tab with 1 no-doz (200mg caffeine) and a 250mg tab of asprin 3 times a day, and after a while you dont even notice it, in fact after a couple weeks i usually double my ephedrine intake. Then after about 2 months it totally loses its effectiveness and you need to take like a month off... something with the receptors in your body wearing out.


That would have been my answer before i read that you have had anxiety issues. I dont have any anxiety issues but I definetley notice that ephedrine can intensify your emotions (almost like when you're sick), if you get depressed you can become really depressed, if you're angry you become really angry, know what i mean? At least in my experience, so like I said I would start small and slow and work up and see what you can handle, cause the **** could very well be a trigger. There is a warning on the back of it not to take it if you have depression, anxiety ect. probably because of this. So just be careful.

[Mic Soloist]

u think starting out with 1 lipo-6 pill and one half ephedrine pill in the morning, and then the other half with one more lipo-6 pill in the afternoon?

[shansen008]

That lipo-6 looks like its good stuff. I drink an energy drink before my lifting that contains many of the same ingredients and then some. Im usually shaking like a tree ina hurricane for hours.

Combining the vasopro with it could be quite a shock if you already have anxiety and are sensitive to stimulants.

Why not just order teh Eph HCl but dont start it till you have finished the lipo6? Then use the vaso pro with caffeine so you can see the difference. You said yourself that you are liking your results so far with lipo-6, if it aint broke dont fix it.

[emjlr3]

i heard yohimbine with ephedrine was not a good thing, that is why im going to stay away from it, and just do E-C-and Green Tea

[Den Fisher]

Ever had 4 cups of coffee within an hour? If you did, then you can handle it. Especially if you're in good shape, or decent shape. If you've never taken ephedrine before then start with small dosages and work your way up. Its not nearly the **** that the media has made it out to be. I take 1 25mg ephedra tab with 1 no-doz (200mg caffeine) and a 250mg tab of asprin 3 times a day, and after a while you dont even notice it, in fact after a couple weeks i usually double my ephedrine intake. Then after about 2 months it totally loses its effectiveness and you need to take like a month off... something with the receptors in your body wearing out.

What's the benefit of taking aspirin with all of this?

[Mic Soloist]

i think im going to take all of the lipo-6 and then try out the EC

[Jabberwocky]

thins your blood