I must be getting old or maybe I'm a p*ssy

[BilltheButcher]

So I am coming home from my hockey game tonight and I stop in CVS to grab a few drinks for the ride home and I hear a ping on the side of my truck like a penny hit my truck. So I'm like whatever, I get out and ping a penny sound lands near me. So I look around the parking lot and these three young guys are walkin to their car. The one with all the dreads (three black guys, but this is not a racial rant, just young punks) is standing their looking at me. So I say something like keep on walking tough guy and I go into the store, not thinking much. I should have just kept my mouth shut, but just can't deal with that type of disrespect. So I go into the store and on my way out I see that the three guys are waiting for me. I call 911 on my cellphone and cops are right there in 2 secs, since it is in a main shopping district. Now I am at home thinking to myself that I'm a pussy and should have went out there and took my lumps and tried to give some out. But I guess being 31 yrs. old, a kid on the way, and owning my own business, it was probably prudent not to get into anymore scuffles if I can avoid it. But man feeling a little disappointed in myself.

[Southern Beast]

3 against 1 doesn't seem like very good odds to me. I think you made a good decision.

[Built]

I couldn't agree more.

Let the cops deal with the little sh!theads.

[jbarba]

dont sweat it. They were just dumb kids. they will get theirs.

[mihorne]

yea, i agree, 3 on 1 is not the smartest thing to get into

at least you didnt just let them get away wtih that ****. teach them some MANNERS, or at least let the cops do it

[jbarba]

i would be worried less about the 3 on 1 and more about actually getting into it w/ these kids and 1 turns out to be 17 or you actually hurt 1 of them b/c the toughest punk kid is a pussy next to a WBB-ER

[spencerjrus]

My dad always told me that unless you're going to die, its better not to look like a p*ssy.


edit: that being said, 3on1 isnt good odds, im sure you made the right call especially with a kid on the way.

[Shao-LiN]

You think you're less of a man because you chose to walk away from a fight?

[mrelwooddowd]

you made the right "call" butcher..

[Southern Beast]

Yeah, they could be minors, and assuming you whooped that ass or injured them, you could land into a lot of trouble.

I've only been out of High School for almost 4 years, but a lot has changed then. These youngsters now start mouthing off a lot more and act all Billy Badass.

[Shao-LiN]

Yeah, they could be minors, and assuming you whooped that ass or injured them, you could land into a lot of trouble.

I've only been out of High School for almost 4 years, but a lot has changed then. These youngsters now start mouthing off a lot more and act all Billy Badass.

Guess it depends. When I was in high school, lots of kids mouthed off. Lots of gangsta wannabes out there, it's not really new.

[bigedge]

Guess it depends. When I was in high school, lots of kids mouthed off. Lots of gangsta wannabes out there, it's not really new.


same here, you always get little punks who think they're all that

i think you made the right decision, it wouldnt be worth the consequences imho

[Southern Beast]

Yeah, there's always little punks here and there, but I guess I'm more in reference to my schools. Back when I was there, everyone got along, not too many fights or anything. Now it's like the white version of "Lean on Me".

[IZich]

you made the right "call" butcher..
har har.. lol i just got it.

[crazedwombat]

yea a buddy of mine got jumped by 7 or 8 14-17 yr olds when i was in germany, just racists I'm guessing because he never did anything, however unfortunately for them, he didnt take their crap and fought back instead of running, he got beat quite a bit but he took out 2 or 3 before he went down. then he got proof of who it was and the law did nothing, infact they told him that if the others went to the cops HE would get in trouble because they were minors but there were 8 of them, not very fair. something wrong with that law...

[Wierz]

Children > all

I stopped reading when you said you had a kid on the way. You shouldn't feel like a p*ssy at all.

Hard to raise kids from a wheelchair, and worse things have happened in less menacing situations. You pay taxes for a reason, so cops can handle that kind of ****.

[Gyno Rhino]

You did the right thing.

Unless you shot them in the face with two blasts of birdshot. That would REALLY be the right thing, but aside from that you did the next best thing available.

Don't enter into a fight unless you're sure you can win.

[Praetorian]

pssssh the day I die will be with hard cold steel in my hand and a curse on my lips.

you should have gone all gung ho on their asses.

[twm]

[...] Unless you shot them in the face with two blasts of birdshot. That would REALLY be the right thing, but aside from that you did the next best thing available. [...]

Or rock salt, nothing stings quite like rock salt.

I had the golden opportunity to kick the **** out of 4 wigger highschool kids that crashed my brothers kegger at our house last summer. Best 15-20 minutes of my life to date :)

They were trying to clock me but would just miss or hit me on the shoulder as I mangled them and threw them out the door by their hair and belts. Rule of thumb, if you're 14-16... don't pick fights with older people because you never know.

To be relevant to the post though, it is one thing to beat up suburbia wiggers who are drunk and quite another to fight 3 sober wannabes. I'd say you made the right decision - it is a safe bet to say at least one was carrying at least a knife.

[Teufelhund]

You got to know when to hold 'em,
know when to fold 'em,
know when to walk away,
know when to run.


Fights that do not occur in rings with spotlights and announcers and paying fans and an audience and a paycheck at the end are just stupid.

[AllUp]

3 against 1 doesn't seem like very good odds to me. I think you made a good decision.
:thumbup:
Don't take multiples unless you KNOW they ain't packing and are over 90% confident you could "/pwn" them.

[AllUp]

Also, if I had a kid on the way I probably woulda done the same hehe.

[justhrowit]

3 on 1....not the kind of odds you want! You made a good call! It's a lot better to be smart than it is to be tough and bloody! Someday these guys will get what's coming to them!

J

[Veritas]

The REAL Bill the Butcher would've chopped those punks into mince-meat... But yeah, this is America, 2005, not America 1805. You never know what type of weapons kids carry these days anyway. Good call old-man! :)

[gino]

I would have called the cops, then went outside and called them punk b!tches. If they started with you, maybe you could have knocked at least one out and avoided any damage yourself before the cops got there. In a 3 on 1 fight, the 1 will most likely not get in any trouble.

Considering everything though, you probably did the right thing.

[Manveet]

I would have called the cops, then went outside and called them punk b!tches.

That's what I call a pussy.

If you're going to call the cops, why do you need to verbally entice them?

[Beast]

Avoiding a 3-on-1 isn't being a p***y, dude...

[Ironminded]

Newb to the forums here so my opinion might not count for much but I think you did the right thing. It is really tempting to try to teach youngin's lessons, and believe me I truly wish our society didn't frown on physical violence like it does. However that being said there are two really good points that have been made in this thread that need to be emphasized.

1.) YOU HAVE A KID ON THE WAY!!! Basically you have others who now depend on you, got to think of them first long before one's ego, sucks but got to do it.

2.) They, the punks, could have, and probably were packing something. It just seems our society has lost all sense of honor these days, those guys probably would have tried to whoop on you and when that failed not thought twice about pulling some kind of weapon instead of taking their beating like a man/men and accepting it. With the lack of personal honor in our society today you just can't expect that they would have refrained from fighting dirty.

Andy

[Manveet]

Avoiding a 3-on-1 isn't being a p***y, dude...

Of course it's not, I never said it was.

But calling the police, THEN enticing them with words is a pussy thing to do.

[Bruteman]

Fights that do not occur in rings with spotlights and announcers and paying fans and an audience and a paycheck at the end are just stupid.
Amen.

Any fight that you can walk away from, the best thing to do is walk away from it. You did the right thing my man. Don't let the male ego/testosterone blind you of that.

[Max-Mex]

So I am coming home from my hockey game tonight and I stop in CVS to grab a few drinks for the ride home and I hear a ping on the side of my truck like a penny hit my truck. .....


Next time call Bawl and his badass friend. Even the odds..well sorta...cause Brawl counts as at LEAST 3 guys.

[Max-Mex]

To answer the original question, you did do the right thing. If the guy is pussy enough to not take you on by himself, then they can deal with the cops. You just evened up the odds by getting some backup! Besides, I think the mother of your child would kill you anyways. :D

[gino]

But calling the police, THEN enticing them with words is a pussy thing to do.

No it's not. I'm making the assumption that they would start the altercation had he gone to his car, even if he tried to ignore them. Maybe it's an incorrect assumption, but if it is, then he would simply have walked to his car, and drove away.

If it's a correct assumption, there were 3 people whom he suspected were physically threatening. As tough as you think you are, 3 on 1 is not fair and you'll most likely get your ass beat into oblivion. There's nothing pu$$y about holding your own until help comes, and it'll make you feel a lot better about yourself to let someone know (or at least think ) you are not afraid of them.

What happens when the cops come? If the guys didn't get in an altercation, the cop says "hey, get outta here". If they do get physical, you may get some bumps and bruises and a little bloody, but you may get some good shots in and they get cuffed and stuffed.

It's not about being a pu$$y, it's all about them getting what's coming to them, and you being the catalyst. I like those options.

[MrWebb78]

3 on 1 isn't too bad. 4 on 1 is trouble though.

rule #1 of getting jumped. grab a hold of one guy and beat the ever loving piss out them. a) it takes them pretty much out of the fight. b)it makes the others think twice about even starting to scrap.

just common knowledge tips from someone who has been jumped his fair share of times.

[bigpoppapump979]

stories like this make me glad that i carry a kimber 1911. but really man you did the right thing. 1 on 1 i take my chances and i like them most of the time. 2 on 1 you can usually beat down at least one of them. but 3 on 1 is no good unless you are bruce willis, JCVD, or especially chuck norris.

[sublime99]

Should have went back in the store and bought some mace or a tiki torch pole and then went out whoopin ass.

[fixationdarknes]

unless you are bruce willis, JCVD, or especially chuck norris.

or The World's Dangerest Man

[fixationdarknes]

Of course it's not, I never said it was.

But calling the police, THEN enticing them with words is a pussy thing to do.

I don't think he was referring to you. I'm pretty sure he was referring to the Butcher who said he felt like a pussy.

And Butcher you should be proud of yourself for avoiding a fight. After all, the only rational reason people learn how to fight is to avoid fights, right?

[meltedtime]

Gotta say you made the right call. 3 on 1 is not a good scene. On top of that, you never know what type of trouble you are getting into. Weapons could turn a small ass woopin' into a coma induced braindead state or a pine box view. Fighting with a random set of hoodlums hardly seems worth all that.

[Manveet]

No it's not. I'm making the assumption that they would start the altercation had he gone to his car, even if he tried to ignore them. Maybe it's an incorrect assumption, but if it is, then he would simply have walked to his car, and drove away.

If it's a correct assumption, there were 3 people whom he suspected were physically threatening. As tough as you think you are, 3 on 1 is not fair and you'll most likely get your ass beat into oblivion. There's nothing pu$$y about holding your own until help comes, and it'll make you feel a lot better about yourself to let someone know (or at least think ) you are not afraid of them.

What happens when the cops come? If the guys didn't get in an altercation, the cop says "hey, get outta here". If they do get physical, you may get some bumps and bruises and a little bloody, but you may get some good shots in and they get cuffed and stuffed.

It's not about being a pu$$y, it's all about them getting what's coming to them, and you being the catalyst. I like those options.

I think you missed my point.

You can call the cops in that situation, that is fine.

But enticing them after you have called the cops is a pussy move. Why? Because you know you wouldn't being saying jack **** to those three guys if you had not called the cops beforehand.

Essentially, you are doing the exact same thing these three individuals are doing, ie picking on someone that is outnumbered.

[monotone]

3 on 1 isn't too bad. 4 on 1 is trouble though.



not to be a complete ass and belittle you here but have you ever been in a fight... 3 to 1 is terrible odds. I was in a fight in a parking lot where these 3 guys tried to jump me and i laid the first one out with one punch... but after that the two guys tried to tackle me and the only thing that saved me was my brother who came and ripped them off me. From there the odds were even and we easily beat the **** out of them. But the moral of the story is that 3 on 1 is terrible odds, id also say the same for 2 on 1.

[MrWebb78]

if you read the rest of my post you will see that yes i have been in many fights. most of them being jumped. it is not belittling me if you dont know how to handle yourself in that situation. i learned how. and of course it isn't great odds, but it's not HORRIBLE either.

[Isaac Wilkins]

monotone, I agree that 3-on-1 is not good odds. However, something here might help you out to look at:

Your stats:
183 pounds

Webb:
6'2"
271 pounds, and I believe I've seen him as high as 290 or so on here.

No, size doesn't necessarily make the fighter, but it doesn't hurt and it gives him a lot more leeway on punishment he can absorb.

[galileo]

I would've called about 10 of my redneck friends.

[Isaac Wilkins]

That's the best defense.

[twm]

I liked the idea of buying a tiki torch and beating them with it

[Ares]

I would have called my uncle / brother in law and got him to roll over em in his big red ford.

[Holto]

your uncle is also your brother in law ?

wow, that's redneck

[monotone]

if you read the rest of my post you will see that yes i have been in many fights. most of them being jumped. it is not belittling me if you dont know how to handle yourself in that situation. i learned how. and of course it isn't great odds, but it's not HORRIBLE either.

Webb i know how to handle myself too, ive been boxing for quite sometime and been in alot of fights. but after looking at your profile i can see how you would have a good advantage over me and be able to handle 3 average sized folks. you outweigh most by 100lbs.

[Canadian Crippler]

I think he meant uncle or brother in law. But if not, then that is indeed very hick :D

[Ares]

Nope hes the same guy. :)