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YungLifter
04-24-2005, 10:23 AM
Im 17, 125-130(skinny), 6ft Im guessing I should bulk 1st since im skinny. Heres my routine.

Meal#1(7am)
2packs Oats, 1Banana, 1/2 cup NF Cottage Cheese, 4egg whites, 1cup Hoods lowcarb milk(I choose this milk b/c has more protein and alot less sugar then normal milk only 3g) Cals:512/ Fat:4g/Carb:68g/Pro:50g

Meal#2(9:30-10am)
Apple, 4tsp of natty PB, Cals:492/Fat:33g/Carb:36g/Pro:16g

Meal#3(12, Noon, Pre-Workout)
1pack Oats, 1Banana, 1/2 cup NFf Cottage Cheese, 2 Slices WW Bread,
Cals:394/Fat:5g/Carb:61g/Pro:30g

Workout WBB#1(1-1:30pm untill 2-2:30pm)

Meal#4(PostWO/2-2:30pm)
2Scoops Whey mixed w/ lowcarb milk Cals:250/Fat:3g.Carb:7g,Pro48g

Meal#5(4-4:30)
2 Chicken Breasts, 1 WW Wrap, Cals:330/Fat:5g/Carb:17g/Pro:46g

Meal#6(6:30pm)
1/4 cup Brown Rice, 1Chicken Breast, 1Serv of Turkey Breast, Cals:400/Fat:6g/Carb:36g/Pro:45g

Meal#7(8:30-9pm)
1can Tuna, 2WW bread slices, Cals:290/Fat:5g/Carb:16g/Pro:49g

Meal#8(10-10:30)
1/2 cup NF Cottage Cheese, Cals:80/Fat:0g/Carb:4g/Pro:15g

Sleep(10:30-11pm)
Totals: Cals:2648/Fat:57g/Carb:247g/Pro:277g[21%Fat/34%Carb/45%Pro]

Good, Bad? Too much food? Do you think ill be abl to consume all this? any pointers?

AdmiralDan
04-24-2005, 10:32 AM
try it and see if you are growing with it. if you aren't gaining, then add more food

YungLifter
04-24-2005, 10:40 AM
Ok thx, how much lbs should i be gaining weekly, 1-2lbs? I put in what i reguarly eat daily and it came out to 1200cals i was surprised i eat alot. but its mostly chicken breast so i guess that doesn't add up alot lol. Does the Fat/Carb/Pro ratio work out good?

Wild Cat McCane
04-24-2005, 10:58 AM
I wouldn't eat tuna everyday. It goes back and forth on if tuna contains to much mercury from the tuna being deep in the ocean. But lets be honest...that does make since.

Mercury builds in your system and is never released. Cancer. horrible death.
I'd say tuna only 2 times a week.

YungLifter
04-24-2005, 11:35 AM
o ok i can just substitute that w/ chicken or turkey. My dad eats tuna alot, for all his life and hes in perfect health

YungLifter
04-24-2005, 01:08 PM
Any1 else got some advice?

spencerjrus
04-24-2005, 01:32 PM
Im 17, 125-130(skinny), 6ft Im guessing I should bulk 1st since im skinny. Heres my routine.

Meal#1(7am)
2Cup Oats, 1Banana, 1/2 cup NF Cottage Cheese, 4egg whites, 1cup Hoods lowcarb milk(I choose this milk b/c has more protein and alot less sugar then normal milk only 3g) Cals:512/ Fat:4g/Carb:68g/Pro:50g

Meal#2(9:30-10am)
Apple, 4tsp of natty PB, Cals:492/Fat:33g/Carb:36g/Pro:16g

Meal#3(12, Noon, Pre-Workout)
1Cup Oats, 1Banana, 1/2 cup NFf Cottage Cheese, 2 Slices WW Bread,
Cals:394/Fat:5g/Carb:61g/Pro:30g

Workout WBB#1(1-1:30pm untill 2-2:30pm)

Meal#4(PostWO/2-2:30pm)
2Scoops Whey mixed w/ lowcarb milk Cals:250/Fat:3g.Carb:7g,Pro48g

Meal#5(4-4:30)
2 Chicken Breasts, 1 WW Wrap, Cals:330/Fat:5g/Carb:17g/Pro:46g

Meal#6(6:30pm)
1/4 cup Brown Rice, 1Chicken Breast, 1Serv of Turkey Breast, Cals:400/Fat:6g/Carb:36g/Pro:45g

Meal#7(8:30-9pm)
1can Tuna, 2WW bread slices, Cals:290/Fat:5g/Carb:16g/Pro:49g

Meal#8(10-10:30)
1/2 cup NF Cottage Cheese, Cals:80/Fat:0g/Carb:4g/Pro:15g

Sleep(10:30-11pm)
Totals: Cals:2648/Fat:57g/Carb:247g/Pro:277g[21%Fat/34%Carb/45%Pro]

Good, Bad? Too much food? Do you think ill be abl to consume all this? any pointers?



I eat 2600 cals before lunch, unless you have a super slow metabolism I would be quite suprised if you could bulk at a decent rate with that few of calories, 3k might be a better bet for someone your height.

ReelBigFish
04-24-2005, 02:05 PM
Only thing i would do is get some complete protein in meal 2. 1/2 c. of Cott. Cheese atleast.

YungLifter
04-24-2005, 03:19 PM
Oh Ok I can add that 1/2cup I love cottage cheese and how much should I look to gain weekly or how ever often I should check , so that I know if I should add more cals or not.

spencerjrus
04-24-2005, 04:10 PM
Oh Ok I can add that 1/2cup I love cottage cheese and how much should I look to gain weekly or how ever often I should check , so that I know if I should add more cals or not.


I'd look to gain about 1-2 lbs a week. You will know though when you start bulking, if you are gaining too much fat you should cut calories a bit, if you arent gaining weight fast enough you need to eat more, its not an exact science but with a little bit of experimentation you will find what works for you.

YungLifter
04-24-2005, 04:23 PM
ok thx for that info im going to go out and purchase one of those electrical scales just to see exact number

Wild Cat McCane
04-24-2005, 05:36 PM
aif mercury is in it as much as some say...
mercury poisening is not fast. slow. very slow. google it. I would stay away. canned chicken seems to have more protein in it too.

YungLifter
04-24-2005, 06:48 PM
I guess I can give canned chicken a try but I like tuna. I wouldn't be having it everyday.

YungLifter
04-24-2005, 07:22 PM
I just Googled this mercury poisioning in fish thing and this is what I found,

Fish high in mercury are: shark, swordfish, tilefish, king mackerel, Spanish mackerel, or canned white tuna (albacore tuna); or blackfish (bowfin), largemouth bass, or jack fish

Fish low in mercury are: Flounder, Canned light tuna and other canned fish(which is the tuna i eat) and so many more, shellfish to like shrimp etc

So i guess i can keep my tuna b/c I eat light chunk tuna and they say you can have up to 5 times a week on safe side.

Vitalize
04-24-2005, 08:45 PM
I wouldn't eat tuna everyday. It goes back and forth on if tuna contains to much mercury from the tuna being deep in the ocean. But lets be honest...that does make since.

Mercury builds in your system and is never released. Cancer. horrible death.
I'd say tuna only 2 times a week.

:zipit::zipit::zipit::zipit:

First I want to apologize for having this rant..ok here we go.

Gahhhh everything is bad isnt it?
Look I wouldn't listen too much about this whole mercury thing.
How many deaths have there been because of eating large amounts of tuna.
Yeah right I can just see it on the coroners report.

: time of deceased 10pm
: cause of death: excessive tuna consumption.

Pfft advising someone to eat it only twice a week is a bit strange.
It contains mercury, but hey eating it twice a week is OK....what complete and utter crap.Why is twice a week ok but no more? Explain please.
Guess all of the world pros and athletes are living on borrowed time then.
Can we all please stop harping on about the dangers of tuna.
Right now I've gotta go because Im talking to someone on my cell phone and slowly develping a brain tumor, whilst at the same time eating loads of vegtables and fruit sprayed in pesticide giving me stomach cancer and chicken which will no doubt give me bird flu and washing it down with lots of milk thus giving me parkinsons desise.And lets not forget the street lights outside my window radiating me and giving me lukemia.

Paranoia is the biggest worry.




Eat every type of protein, get big, die big. **** all the hype.

Nuff said

mihorne
04-24-2005, 11:22 PM
eat a lot of tuna, and a lot of everything else.

Wild Cat McCane
04-24-2005, 11:27 PM
well, if it contains small amounts. taking small amounts would seem to be ok right? but if it contains small amounts but you eat it daily....
you seem to prove my point.


But cancer isn't exactly a death due to this or that, it's a build up bad ****. Seems like you should not purposely do excessive bad ****?

ryuage
04-25-2005, 12:17 AM
i guess you better share this news with the 10000 people that eat 3+ cans of tuna a day and have been doing it for years.

smalls
04-25-2005, 12:22 AM
I wouldn't eat tuna everyday. It goes back and forth on if tuna contains to much mercury from the tuna being deep in the ocean. But lets be honest...that does make since.

Mercury builds in your system and is never released. Cancer. horrible death.
I'd say tuna only 2 times a week.

LOL, dont post junk without at least having a base of what your talking about. Yes mercury has potential dangers in certain people who can't handle the levels their body's may get. Cancer is not caused by mercury, please dont tell noobs that it is. mercury builds up, but can be released over time, just like it accumulates over time. I've talked to plenty of nutritionists (who are almost all super conservative on the issue) and only one of them has ever heard of anyone actually having problems due to mercury, and it was one guy.
If your really honestly worried about tuna, stay in your house with the humidifier and air purifier and never climb out from under the covers. It's a dangerous world out there. Thanks for the quote vitalize.

Young lifter, your calorie and content count does not match up at all. You say your getting 1 cup of oatmeal and 2 pieces of bread but only 61g of carbs in that meal, that doesnt add up. What you have listed is much more than 2600 cals bro. Just stick with a diet for a while and if your not gaining, eat more. It's that simple.

Vitalize
04-25-2005, 12:25 AM
well, if it contains small amounts. taking small amounts would seem to be ok right? but if it contains small amounts but you eat it daily....
you seem to prove my point.


Meaning what exactly?

thajeepster
04-25-2005, 12:33 AM
i think your numbers are off??? is your 2 cups and 1 cup oats cooked??? meaning 1 cup and 1/2 cup raw??? 1 cup oats, a banana, 1/2 cup of cc, and 2 slices bread should be around 700 cals... not 394... and your breakfast sounds like it should be around 900-1000 cals.

jesyka_maree_87
04-25-2005, 03:24 AM
i think your numbers are off??? is your 2 cups and 1 cup oats cooked??? meaning 1 cup and 1/2 cup raw??? 1 cup oats, a banana, 1/2 cup of cc, and 2 slices bread should be around 700 cals... not 394... and your breakfast sounds like it should be around 900-1000 cals.

exactly what I was thinking..

YungLifter
04-25-2005, 02:42 PM
who wheat bread i have has 5net carbs and 60cals a slice, oatmeal is dry and has like 100cals per pack

smalls
04-25-2005, 02:48 PM
Ok, well you where putting cup instead of pack. And IMO a young man should be staying the **** away from all the lowcarb alternatives you are eating. Drink milk and eat real WW bread.

spencerjrus
04-25-2005, 03:02 PM
Ok, well you where putting cup instead of pack. And IMO a young man should be staying the **** away from all the lowcarb alternatives you are eating. Drink milk and eat real WW bread.


Cant agree more, young people should be eating everything and anything that is put in front of them, as I try to.

YungLifter
04-25-2005, 03:51 PM
o ok i just really like this bread and the milk taste good, the milk is thicker and creamier and bread is just really good, my mom buys it for herself i just eat them b/c their good. Are they that bad 4 someone young?

smalls
04-25-2005, 04:05 PM
There just really low cal and low carb, both negatives for most young people trying to put on muscle.

YungLifter
04-25-2005, 04:40 PM
o ok ill try to find other breads but i really like the milk its nice and creamy

danlifter
04-30-2005, 08:03 PM
Im 17 6 foot 145 this is what my bulking diet looks like.

Meal1: Breakfest 7:30
1 scoop of whey 110 calories, 1.5 grams of fat, 23 grams of protein, 3 carbs
1 cup skim milk 70 calories, 8 protein, 13 carbs
1/2cup cottage cheese 90 caloires, 16 grams of protein, 4 carbs, 1 gram of fat
Oatmeal 27 carbs, 5 grams of protein, 3 grams of fat,150 calories, 4 fiber
Shredded Wheat 15 carbs, .5 fat,70 calories
1 tsp. of glutamine
Multivitamin

Total calories-490
Total Protein-54.5
Total Carbs-62
Total Fat-6

Meal2: Lunch 10:45
Tuna Fish 38 grams of protein, 180 calories, 2 fat
1 tbs peanut butter 90 calories, 7.5 grams of fat, 4 protein
Lite whole wheat bread 35 calories, 8 carbs


Total calories-305
Total Protein-42
Total Carbs-8
Total Fat-9.5

Meal3:Pre Workout meal 2:20
1lb. bag of strawberries 37 grams of carbs, 150 calories.
1 lite 85 yogurt 6 grams of protein, 13 carbs, 80 calories., 6 fiber
1 can of tuna 19 grams of protein, 90 calories, 1 grams fat
1 piece of salmon 15 grams of protein, 3.5 grams of fat,100 calories



Total calories-420
Total Protein-40
Total Carbs-50
Total Fat-4.5

Meal4:Post Workout meal 5:20
Dextrose crystals 2.5 tbs. 29 grams of carbs, 120 calories
Maltodextrin 1/4 cup 23 grams of carbs, 95 calories
2 scoops whey protein drink 46 grams of protein, 220 calories. 4 carbs, 3 grams of fat
1 tsp of glutamine 4500 mg.
Multivitamin
5 grams creatine monohydrate



Total calories-435
Total Protein-46
Total Carbs-56
Total Fat-3 gram

Meal5:Dinner 6:10
Egg beaters 42 grams of protein, 7 carbs, 210 calories
1/2 cup of oatmeal 3 grams of fat, 27 carbs, 5 grams of protein,150 calories, 4 fiber
1 can of sliced potatoes 32 carbs,150 calories, 5 fiber
1 piece shredded wheat 15 carbs, 70 calories, .5 fat

Total calories-580
Total Protein-47
Total Carbs-61
Total Fat-3.5

Meal6: 8:30
Salmon 3.5 grams of fat, 15 protein, 100 calories
Tuna Fish 1 gram of fat, 19 protein, 90 calories



Total Calories-190
Total Protein-34
Total Carbs-
Total Fat-4.5

Meal7:Before Bed
1 cup of cottage cheese 160 calories, 30 grams of protein, 8 carbs
1.5 tbs peanut butter 135 calories, 11 grams of fat, 4 protein



ZMA PILLS

Total Calories-295
Total Protein-34
Total Carbs-8
Total Fat-11



TOTALS
Calories-2715
Protein-297 grams
Carbs-258 grams
Fat-43 grams

HahnB
04-30-2005, 08:16 PM
In my opinion that diet is too clean for you. Eat atleast 3000 cals to start, that's no sweat.

danlifter
05-01-2005, 01:17 PM
Looks good all except your postworkout meal. You do not want milk in the whey protein because that will slow down the whey from getting to the muscles. You need it in water. I suggest you take in some carbs post workout because this is the window of oppurtunity to rebuild the muscle. Either get some dextrose sugar or maltodextrin or eat a bananna. And take the milk out.