cutting cycle...

[JSully]

OK, I'm nowhere near a pre-contest... but I was just curious about one I was pondering up. Many on here have suggested the use of dbol during pre-contest to stay full.... but at what dosage? I'm going to take a guess and say 20-25mg/day for 4 wks/on, 4wks/off etc

This is what I was thinking about doing for a precontest.. when the time came. I'm going to do a precontest cycle in a bout 1- 1 1/2 years (just to get to know my body better before I REALLY do a contest). I know my body pretty well now, and I know it well enough that I'm going to start 16 weeks out. As far as the diet, I'm unsure of so far. Will probably be either something along the lines of Chase's diet, or the TwinPeaks carb cycling. I'm not far enough into either of the diets yet to decide which is best for me. The best results I've ever gotten from a diet thus far has been a UD2, but I don't think thats quite good enough for contest level bodyfat readings. Right now I'm trying the 40/30/30 at maintenance-15% and it seems to be going well, I'm losing roughly 2lb's week, with minimal cardio. I'm going to continue cutting until mid September, so I'm sure we'll see how good it works in the upcoming 2 months.

Now, onto the cycle itself... 16weeks.

I haven't tried tren yet, so this might not even be on the list by the time I come around this cycle. I'll definately try it before then, probably later this year.

Weeks 1-12: Test prop @ 100mg ED
Weeks 13-16: Test suspension @ 50-100mg ED
Weeks 1-16: Tren @ 75mg ED
Weeks 8-16: Winstrol @ 50mg ED

Clenbuterol: 2 weeks on 2 weeks off @ 100-160mcg/day throughout the entire cycle.
T3: starting week 10 @ 50-100mcg/day

DNP will be added from weeks 12-14 @ 400-600mg/day ONLY if needed. (if I'm lagging way behind and need to drop another 2-3% within the short period of time) + that gives me 2 weeks to drop the water.

Now, I was curious as how to apply the D-bol? Being on the Winstrol will already be damaging to my liver, and I don't wanna **** it up too much, obviously. So would the dbol be rotated 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off, 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off (then show)?


I also haven't dabbled with Deca or Equipoise yet, which is why neither are listed, but I've read and am told that EQ is a great precontest drug because of the superb vascualarity and nutrient partitioning it gives.





I hope I don't look like too much of a ****ing idiot posting this. lol.. It IS nearly 2 years away.. so I've got plenty of time to rethink things.

[BCC]

That looks pretty solid there jake. Certainly not a light cycle, but you'll notice a hell of a transformation. If you can get a hold of anadrol instead of dbol that would be even better. I would run that straight through at 50mgs ED for the first 10 weeks. I basically did the same thing with dbol, but for 6-8 weeks (and maybe a little more ;) )

Keep the suspension at 50mgs ED for the last 2-3 weeks.

Avoid the DNP if you can, T3 and clen should be more than satisfactory. Hell, 16 weeks of tren will transform you like no other. If your BP is sensitive to it, make sure you're taking hawthorn berries to help lower it. Also make sure you load up on the milk thistle.

[gino]

I like that cycle. Normally I'd move T3 closer to the front, if not preparing for a contest. The only thing worse than getting your HPTA up and running, is trying to do that with a lagging thyroid recovering from T3 usage. Putting the T3 closer to the front would give you more thyroid recovery time before PCT...but since you're simulating a contest cycle, recovery isn't a priority, so I guess you can keep it at the end. Get some guggul and sea kelp to take after the T3.

Maybe towards the end of the cycle you could dabble with a small dosage of a light diuretic like aldactone to see how your body reacts. Remember...small dosage...diuretics shouldn't be taken lightly.

[Drai's]

Is 4 months of fina really necessary?

I would think something more along the lines of:

Weeks 1-12: Test prop @ 100mg ED
Weeks 13-16: Test suspension @ 50-100mg ED
Weeks 1-12: EQ at 600mg ED
Weeks 10-16: Tren @ 75mg ED
Weeks 10-16: Winstrol @ 50mg ED

I don't think you really need the d-bol, but I'd just probably use it weeks 1-6 if you were going to throw it in.

[BCC]

4 months of fina will make you look like a freak, no doubt. By the time I'm done with my shows I will have done 16 weeks of fina. It could certainly be considered overkill, but if he's still intent on it, even 50mgs ED would be plenty.

[Gabrielle]

I think the cycle looks great. I can't really figure where you could throw in the dbol, though. You might change your mind in a couple of years, once you start dabbling with higher doses though.

[JSully]

Thanks guys, I'd like to do a contest prep cycle like this around the beginning of 2007, maybe even late 2006 so I'm not totally unaware of how I react/transform on my way to 3-4% bf.

It's still a ways away though.. In any event, I'll have tried all the drugs by then. Hell, I'll be adding Tren, Deca, and EQ to my bulk in 2-3 months (no, not all at the same time, lol)

anyways, thanks again.