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Maki Riddington
12-08-2001, 08:02 PM
Anyone know if this is true?

I'm under the impression that if someone has a low calcium intake and they supplument their diet with more calcium it can speed up the fat burning process.

Low calcium triggers calcitriol which in turn slows your metabolism down. This results in more fat being made.

Any thoughts?

the doc
12-08-2001, 08:24 PM
sure maybe but with as much food as we eat is this deficiancy possible?
Do you eat any dairy?

Maki Riddington
12-08-2001, 08:58 PM
Hehe, Doc my dairy intake is fine, I was just wondering.

Avatar
12-08-2001, 09:10 PM
a lot of people restrict dairy totally while cutting so I can see a defeciency very possible with some.

I personally supplement with 650mg of calcium everyday.

body
12-09-2001, 03:35 AM
if you restrict quite a few vitamins espicially some of the b-vitmains you are going to alter metabolism as they assit it.

high calcuim diet lower the alkalinty of the stomach and interefere with protien absorption. What pH does fat like to be absorbed at? if it make the stomach to high to absorb fat effeicently. Then it may help with fat loss as it reduce you kcals uptaken and have a similar way to weight loss as olestra?
I am purely guessing with this so do not flame me as no evidence to back it up. but i am likely to be wrong, just say why i am wrong. even if i am right it may not be a signiifanct difference of absorption to be very helpful.

Wizard
12-09-2001, 04:38 AM
That's right.I've read two studies that support it.I'd also noticed it once,while I was dieting.I started taking 800mg of calcium every day and fat loss was somehow accelerated.

MonStar1023
12-09-2001, 09:45 AM
Wizard-
Really? Thats very interesting. 800 mg. of calcium sped up your fat-loss.. Ill definitely have to give that a shot.

:D:D

body
12-09-2001, 12:17 PM
Effects of dietary calcium on adipocyte lipid metabolism and body weight regulation in energy-restricted aP2-agouti transgenic mice.

Shi H, Dirienzo D, Zemel MB.

The University of Tennessee, Knoxville, TN 37996-1900, USA.

We have demonstrated previously a regulatory role for intracellular Ca2+ ([Ca2+]i) in adipocyte lipogenesis and lipolysis and have recently reported that 1,25-(OH)2-D increases adipocyte [Ca2+]i, which causes increased lipogenesis and decreased lipolysis. We have now tested the hypothesis that suppressing 1,25-(OH)2-D by increasing dietary calcium will suppress adipocyte [Ca2+]i, thereby facilitating weight loss by stimulating lipolysis and inhibiting lipogenesis in calorically (Kcal)-restricted (70% of ad lib) aP2-agouti transgenic (aP2-a) mice. Mice (aP2-a) exhibiting a pattern of obesity gene expression similar to humans were fed a low-Ca (0.4%)/high-fat/high-sucrose diet for six weeks, resulting in a 27% and twofold increase in body weight and total fat pad mass, respectively, with a twofold increase in adipocyte [Ca2+]i pad lib or Kcal-restricted (70% of ad lib) on this diet either unsupplemented (basal) or with 25% or 50% of the protein replaced by non-fat dry milk (medium or high) dairy or supplemented with CaCO3 to 1.2% Ca for six weeks. Adipocyte [Ca2+]i was unaffected by Kcal restriction but was reduced markedly by all three high Ca diets (290 vs. 130 nM, p2+]i and thereby reduce energy storage and increase thermogenesis during Kcal restriction.

PMID: 11156940 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Maki Riddington
12-10-2001, 06:10 PM
Cheers.

MonStar1023
12-10-2001, 06:25 PM
Bump for Wizard......

:D:D

the doc
12-10-2001, 07:27 PM
maki= good info!

*makes note to add Ca supp whilst cutting*

MonStar1023
12-11-2001, 05:59 AM
That is so hard to believe for me for some reason. I guess because of all the information I have read about how bad dairy is while cutting. Seems controversial since dairy is a good source of calcium..

.. I guess Ill just have to give it a shot and see how it goes. So around a gram per day while cutting will help with fat loss?

:confused::confused:

Avatar
12-11-2001, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by MonStar1023
That is so hard to believe for me for some reason. I guess because of all the information I have read about how bad dairy is while cutting. Seems controversial since dairy is a good source of calcium..



Its not the calcium in dairy that makes cutting tough silly. Its the lactose and sodium.

MonStar1023
12-11-2001, 01:35 PM
I just bought GNC's Calcium Complex.. which is 3 tablets per servings which comes out to 1200 mg. of calcium per serving.

:cool::cool:

Bullrider Billy
12-11-2001, 02:07 PM
The calcium binds with the fat, basically forming a soap that the body passes.

MonStar1023
12-11-2001, 07:21 PM
The product I bought from GNC is called "Calcium Complete."

For every 3 tablets...
300 mg. vitamin C
1200 mg. calcium
600 mg. magnesium
50 mg. betaine hydrochloride

:D:D

Jane
12-11-2001, 07:29 PM
dont worry about dairy, just take your pills :)