Nitrean Vs. ON 100% Whey

[blindedzeppelin]

Which would you recommend ? And please don't just say Nitrean because you work for AtLargeNutrition.

Thanks.

[wrestlemaniac]

so.... in other words anytime someone says Nitrean you're going to ignore it and anytime someone says ON you won't? Obviously if Nitrean didn't stack up people on this board would've made it known long ago.

[blindedzeppelin]

I just didn't want people to advertise. Didn't mean to offend...
So you would definitely say Nitrean is the better product of the two?

[chris mason]

Just to clarify, the only people on this board who "work" for AtLarge are Daniel, myself, and indirectly Maki as he helps to maintain this site.

So, anyone else's opinion is valid per your request because they are in no way affiliated with us other than being happy customers.

[Jabberwocky]

Nitrean is a better all around product.
ON is cheaper and does the job, but imo Nitrean is better.

Learn the difference between protein blends and whey protein.

[cosmicdebree88]

Well, I can say from personal experience that Nitrean is the better choice. In the past I have taken the GNC 100% whey protein. I used to think it was pretty good. However, I recently decided that I would try out some Nitrean just to see how it compared. Price was not an issue being that my tiny @ss jug of GNC protein was the same price as the huge ***** jug of nitrean. However, I know this seems silly as it is really just protein but I actually feel like I've been making better gains in the past few weeks taking Nitrean. I'm assuming that ON is just a similar product to the GNC brand here but I think you should give the Nitrean a try.

[Holto]

whenever you take whey a % of amino's are lost

lost as in converted to energy etc...and not used to build muscle

you would need to take more ON 100% Whey to get the same amount of usable amino's

[Anthony]

Both are quality products, but I prefer Nitrean because it's a blend. Not to mention it tastes better.

[abwowang]

i hate these threads..
nitrean and ON are DIFFERENT..
and i kno u have read about nitrean and everyone says u get the bang for the buck and it is a quality product..

its up to u..

i would say nitrean.. i have had both.. among many others.. and i would say nitrean..

[WBBIRL]

Nitrean is better for one reason, it contains casin proteins as well as whey proteins. Whey is known as a "fast" protein and when taken on a empty stomache its metabloized in under half an hour and is courseing through your body. Casin breaks down much slower and takes hours to fully cycle through your body. When taken together your muscles get that initial shot of protein as well as the trickleing longer lasting supply of casin.

Having said all that, ID still get whatever was cheaper... and when I get paid im going to order up 2 10lb bags of double rich ON and one container of Nitrean if it still on sale.

[Holto]

Whey is known as a "fast" protein and when taken on a empty stomache its metabloized in under half an hour and is courseing through your body

metabolized means turned into energy

I think you mean "digested"

Whey is *not* digested in 1 hour

The studies that show digestion in 2 hours used people that had been fasting (not eaten anything for 24-48 hours)

this drastically accelerates absorbtion in the small intestine and cuts down on total digestion time

[Drai's]

ON's cheaper. Nitrean is better. Better enough to justify the extra cost? I'd say it depends a lot on the rest of your diet.

[WBBIRL]

I would say that text book wize Nitrean is a better product, but for someone like me who just supplements to make up for a poor protein intake in my diet. If i could get 250g without the shakes, I wouldnt spend money on any shakes.

[Organichu]

I'd say Nitrean- its protein blend seems entirely appropriate to build muscle, and in my current case, to maintain my comfort level while cutting.

When attempting a diet where you are trying to tightly control macronutrients and enter a hypocaloric deficit, I consider Nitrean a staple of my diet- not only does it give me the last meal of protein I need to feel secure about avoiding catabolism, but its blend also fills me and has many a day stopped me from binging on nearby cake. It's quite satiating.

[METALASIAN]

When taken together your muscles get that initial shot of protein as well as the trickleing longer lasting supply of casin.


May be a little off topic, but I thought when you take casein and whey together, the casein actually slows down the whey with it. Maybe I'm just misinformed?

[Canadian Crippler]

If you are not tight for cash and/or a cheapass than Nitrean is likely the way to go.

[bigsethmeister]

I've tried both. Both are good. I like Nitrean better - easier to mix and the taste is much better.

[chris mason]

Sweet, thanks for your opinion Seth!

[GMCtrk]

Can we even quantify the difference between the two? I'll go with the cheaper product. Nitrean won't be as good for post-workout. And when I need casein protein to digest slower I just mix my ON with milk.

That being said, one day, a long long time from now when I have some money, I will buy the better product. I wonder how good nitrean tastes

[getfit]

Can we even quantify the difference between the two? I'll go with the cheaper product. Nitrean won't be as good for post-workout. And when I need casein protein to digest slower I just mix my ON with milk.

That being said, one day, a long long time from now when I have some money, I will buy the better product. I wonder how good nitrean tastes
i think chris already clarified that before! and it tastes awesome mixes very well

[getfit]

oooooo sorry chris i don't mean to hijack :)

[Dedicated]

Which would you recommend ? And please don't just say Nitrean because you work for AtLargeNutrition.

Thanks.

I have tried ON 100% Whey chocolate flavor and it was better than
EAS simply whey, Irontek, and the costco stuff I am using now.

However, I wasn't impressed with the way ON 100% Whey mixed. I haven't found a protein that really mixes well, especially with milk. If it was me, and I was looking for a "better" mixing/tasting protein, I would try Nitrean simply because I wasn't that impressed with ON.


Another option is to try some of that whey isolate stuff, not sure which is the best brand. I've never tried it, I just know it's more expensive lol. I wonder if it mixes better.

[Chizniz16]

I just recieved my Nitrean today, in the past I was using ON, this Nitrean is the best tasting protein powder I have ever had, plus its got 24 grams of protein in each scoop!

[D Breyer]

how much longer does teh deal go on... i think im goign to have to get some nitrean...

[chris mason]

oooooo sorry chris i don't mean to hijack :)


No worries.


By the way, I assume that is you in your avatar? If so, your moniker certainly applies!

[chris mason]

how much longer does teh deal go on... i think im goign to have to get some nitrean...


I am not sure. This is no b.s., our supplies are quickly dwindling. The response has been awesome!

[getfit]

No worries.


By the way, I assume that is you in your avatar? If so, your moniker certainly applies!
it is yes!

[chris mason]

Well, you have certainly gotten fit!

[getfit]

Well, you have certainly gotten fit!
thank you :)

[Hatred]

I personally love the taste of ON 100% whey and I think it mixes well in water and milk.
I do need a casein blend protein and just haven't ordered any yet. I just bought like 20lbs of dextrose so I guess that's next.

[Manveet]

I use ON most of the time, it's cheap and works out just fine. Any "drawbacks" associated with ON whey can easily be mitigated by diet.

[Drai's]

I use ON most of the time, it's cheap and works out just fine. Any "drawbacks" associated with ON whey can easily be mitigated by diet.

:withstupi

[chris mason]

I use ON most of the time, it's cheap and works out just fine. Any "drawbacks" associated with ON whey can easily be mitigated by diet.

That statement could be made of any protein supplement.

Our point is that with Nitrean you needn't worry about it.

Chris

[Manveet]

That statement could be made of any protein supplement.

Our point is that with Nitrean you needn't worry about it.

Chris

fair enough, of course you are going to have to pay a little extra to "not worry about it";)

[chris mason]

That is the case with everything worth having in our society. Better products command a higher price by definition. That's just the way it is.

Now, price doesn't define quality but when quality exists it will command a higher price and that price will be paid because people know they are buying a better product.

The question you might ask yourself is whether or not you deserve the best especially when it comes to your body and your results from busting your ass in the gym...

[MM]

I buy ON and love it; I'd buy some Nitrean, but I just don't see the point. I'm a completely satisfied customer.

[Manveet]

That is the case with everything worth having in our society. Better products command a higher price by definition. That's just the way it is.

Now, price doesn't define quality but when quality exists it will command a higher price and that price will be paid because people know they are buying a better product.

The question you might ask yourself is whether or not you deserve the best especially when it comes to your body and your results from busting your ass in the gym...

Ya, but we're comparing protein products here. The difference between these two products is negligible at best. And as I stated before, any difference can easily be mitigated by diet. Let's face it, a person consuming At Large products has virtually no advantange over an individual who is consuming ON products. At large products will not be the primary factor in helping individuals squat 500lbs+, or walking out on stage at 230lbs at 5% bodyfat. The exact same thing could be said for ON products, or any supplement company for that matter.

[chris mason]

I buy ON and love it; I'd buy some Nitrean, but I just don't see the point. I'm a completely satisfied customer.


I completely respect that.

I hope that one day you will give us a try but I very much like the fact you are a loyal customer.

[chris mason]

Ya, but we're comparing protein products here. The difference between these two products is negligible at best. And as I stated before, any difference can easily be mitigated by diet. Let's face it, a person consuming At Large products has virtually no advantange over an individual who is consuming ON products. At large products will not be the primary factor in helping individuals squat 500lbs+, or walking out on stage at 230lbs at 5% bodyfat. The exact same thing could be said for ON products, or any supplement company for that matter.

That is where you and I disagree. The quality of the product DOES make a difference in the results you get.

Let me give you an example of a difference in the corporate mindset between the owners of ON and us at Atlarge.

ON includes an enzyme blend in one of their protein products. That blend consists of 2 enzymes one of which is call Aminogen (R). Aminogen (R) has been shown to liberate up to 50% greater amino acids from a gram of protein when used at a dose of 50mg per gram or protein.

Aminogen (R) is a very impressive product and one which we are considering adding to our protein products. It works, I have been using it myself. I had a special sample made for me combining it with Nitrean.

Here is the catch, we are looking to add it to Nitrean at the proven viable dose of 50mg per gram of protein. This happens to be a very expensive proposition and would drive the cost of each bottle up a LOT of money. Aminogen (R) is not cheap. When I say a lot, the price of the product would have to increase by roughly $10 per jug!

Now, back to ON. They include Aminogen and another enzyme at a dose of a TOTAL (for both enzymes) of 25mg per 23g serving of protein! At that dose the Aminogen (R) must be completely ineffective as it is less than 2% of the proven effective amount!!!

So, in essence, ON has included the enzyme in their product for no reason? They do make people aware the enzyme is included in their product. The bottom line is that in my opinion they are including it simply as a label claim.

AtLarge cares about our customers and the quality of the product we offer to you...

[YungLifter]

Does anyone know if GNC carries Nitrean? I want to give it a try.

[Daniel Clough]

nope, only available on www.atlargenutrition.com

We do accept paypal and money orders if credit card processing is an issue for you.

Daniel

[YungLifter]

Damn... Ok Ill see if i can order some. Wish I could just go buy it though hehe

[YungLifter]

Im a noob so I don't want to sound stupid but would this work... Mixing a slow digesting protein like cottage cheese with a fast digesting protein like whey, do what nitrean does for you? Might not taste as good but you know..

[chris mason]

Yes, it would provide a simlilar effect although a bit different due to the nature of the foodstuff.

[Manveet]

That is where you and I disagree. The quality of the product DOES make a difference in the results you get.

Let me give you an example of a difference in the corporate mindset between the owners of ON and us at Atlarge.

ON includes an enzyme blend in one of their protein products. That blend consists of 2 enzymes one of which is call Aminogen (R). Aminogen (R) has been shown to liberate up to 50% greater amino acids from a gram of protein when used at a dose of 50mg per gram or protein.

Aminogen (R) is a very impressive product and one which we are considering adding to our protein products. It works, I have been using it myself. I had a special sample made for me combining it with Nitrean.

Here is the catch, we are looking to add it to Nitrean at the proven viable dose of 50mg per gram of protein. This happens to be a very expensive proposition and would drive the cost of each bottle up a LOT of money. Aminogen (R) is not cheap. When I say a lot, the price of the product would have to increase by roughly $10 per jug!

Now, back to ON. They include Aminogen and another enzyme at a dose of a TOTAL (for both enzymes) of 25mg per 23g serving of protein! At that dose the Aminogen (R) must be completely ineffective as it is less than 2% of the proven effective amount!!!

So, in essence, ON has included the enzyme in their product for no reason? They do make people aware the enzyme is included in their product. The bottom line is that in my opinion they are including it simply as a label claim.

AtLarge cares about our customers and the quality of the product we offer to you...


I don't think we will ever see eye to eye with this at all. Let's face it, you have a supplement business to run, and you want to make it as profitable as possible. There's nothing wrong with that.

My problem is that I see way to many people coming onto this board asking the most ridiculous questions in regards to supplements. People seem to have this belief that supplements are some magic shake or pill that will put on slabs of muscle while at the same time burn off pounds of fat. It's plain ludricous to assume that by merely changing my protein powder from ON to At Large that I will somehow but on 10lbs of extra muscle, and all of my lifts will sky rocket. It's just protein for god's sake!

[dxiw]

buy nitrean unless you want to be drinking a shake that taste likea yoohoo mixed with piss... I'm not in any way affiliated with atlargenutrition but I gota tell you.. their **** taste soo ****ing good its amazing..

[Drai's]

buy nitrean unless you want to be drinking a shake that taste likea yoohoo mixed with piss

I wouldn't go as far as to say that. ON tastes fine; Nitrean DOES taste better though.

[chris mason]

I don't think we will ever see eye to eye with this at all. Let's face it, you have a supplement business to run, and you want to make it as profitable as possible. There's nothing wrong with that.

My problem is that I see way to many people coming onto this board asking the most ridiculous questions in regards to supplements. People seem to have this belief that supplements are some magic shake or pill that will put on slabs of muscle while at the same time burn off pounds of fat. It's plain ludricous to assume that by merely changing my protein powder from ON to At Large that I will somehow but on 10lbs of extra muscle, and all of my lifts will sky rocket. It's just protein for god's sake!

Yes, I do have a business to run and I do wish to make money.

Your statement about me making it as profitable as possible is dead wrong. If I wanted to do that I would sell all of the crap other companies sell and make a lot more money.

I would sell:

whey only powders
myostatin inhibitors
NO2 products
goofy creatine variations

and the list goes on.

We don't do that. We sell products that incorporate the highest quality ingredients and don't skimp on the cost thus reducing our profitability.

That is how we do business.

Oh, and yes, we do want to make money.

[chris mason]

buy nitrean unless you want to be drinking a shake that taste likea yoohoo mixed with piss... I'm not in any way affiliated with atlargenutrition but I gota tell you.. their **** taste soo ****ing good its amazing..


Thanks man!

[VasDeferens]

silly question.

is ON-pro complex in the league of nitrean or opticen?

[briancurran01]

IMO

Nitrean is 100% better

I have tried ON and Nitrean blows it away

[Unholy]

Ignorance is bliss :D are we still comparing apples to oranges or are some people having trouble grasping the concept.

[Canadian Crippler]

I wouldn't say apples and oranges. Rather green apples and red apples.

[chris mason]

silly question.

is ON-pro complex in the league of nitrean or opticen?


That is not a silly question and the answer is yes, it is certainly in league with Nitrean or Opticen. We do feel our product is better but ON's Pro-Complex is a good product.

[VasDeferens]

That is not a silly question and the answer is yes, it is certainly in league with Nitrean or Opticen. We do feel our product is better but ON's Pro-Complex is a good product.

I have used nitrean and opticen and I am aware that atlarge is a quality brand.

i didnt ask it correctly.

what I meant was; is pro-complex like Nitrean...or is it more like opticen, the mrp?


another question-
my understanding is:
nitrean, a protein powder = blend protein and virtually zero carbs and fats.
opticen, an MRP = blend protein + some carbs and some fat (and some minerals/vitamins ).

how does the protein blend in opticen differ from that in nitrean?

thx

[VasDeferens]

anyone?

the protein in nitrean = .5 whey + .25 egg and .25 casein
what about the protein composition in opticen?

what differentiates nitrean from opticen?

(I dont particulalry care about the fat and carb and minerals)

[Daniel Clough]

You were correct in your assumptions.

Opticen is an MRP hence the vitamin, minerals, and carb/fat differences.

The protein matrix is the same.

[BCC]

I'll tell you one thing, Opticen tastes 234234 times better than Pro-complex.

Opticen without a doubt is the best tasting MRP I've ever had.

[VasDeferens]

thanks

[EK!]

i personally like the vanilla nitrean more than chocolate. plus the unwashed mixer cups sitting around my house dont stink as bad as the chocolate does.

[Maki Riddington]

Opticen without a doubt is the best tasting MRP I've ever had.

Yup!!!

[GMCtrk]

who gives a rats ass what it tastes like? Dextrose will make anything taste good.