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fierce
06-17-2005, 09:07 PM
I just had some pizza for my cheat meal (one a week).. have 4 small slices(10 inch diameter pizza) of chicken + veggies on a thin crust with very very light cheese..

i just want to know how many calories are in it but i dont know how to go about calculating it... accorind to fitday its saying something like 400-600 calories but that seems pretty low

whatcha think?

HahnB
06-17-2005, 10:12 PM
Fitday is pretty worthless when it comes to things like that. If it's your cheat day I would be eating pepperoni and cheese instead of vegtables and chicken on your pizza:)

Chizniz16
06-17-2005, 10:21 PM
you can find any nutrition facts on google if you look it up. Pizza like Dominos or Papa Muprhys, its all there.

KevinStarke
06-17-2005, 10:30 PM
Holy **** clam casino is wear its at... mmm...

bgs1154
06-18-2005, 01:42 AM
I reccomend thin crust to cut the carbs and I think it's better cause it doesnt make you feel too full and nasty.

Hoobastank
06-18-2005, 01:58 AM
Pizza becomes an unhealthy choice when it's made with lots of high-fat ingredients, or when we eat excessive portions. Just two slices of pizza with mounds of extra cheese on top or stuffed into the crust, or loaded with fatty meat, can contain 700 to 1,000 calories and 40 to 70 grams of fat. Even with fewer high-fat additions, you'll be heading toward the same tally if you have three or four average slices. Pizza can be part of a healthy meal, but remember that a major portion of the meal should come from vegetables, fruits and other plant-based foods. The tomato sauce on pizza is an excellent source of the phytochemical called lycopene, but using some sauce and a few sliced vegetables on top won't achieve that balance. Limit your pizza portions to control fat and calories, and include veggies not only on your pizza, but on the side as well (in a salad or side dish), and have fruit for dessert. Ordering "half cheese" will cut about 20 calories and 2 grams of fat for a typical two-slice serving, but that's minimal compared to the savings if you limit your portions.

NicH.

J450n
06-18-2005, 02:29 AM
Fitday is pretty worthless when it comes to things like that. If it's your cheat day I would be eating pepperoni and cheese instead of vegtables and chicken on your pizza:)

:withstupi
If it's you're cheat meal i wouldn't worry so much. Isn't that pretty much the point of a 'cheat meal'?

Way i see it, if you're gonna do it, do it properly.

fierce
06-18-2005, 07:33 AM
Pizza becomes an unhealthy choice when it's made with lots of high-fat ingredients, or when we eat excessive portions. Just two slices of pizza with mounds of extra cheese on top or stuffed into the crust, or loaded with fatty meat, can contain 700 to 1,000 calories and 40 to 70 grams of fat. Even with fewer high-fat additions, you'll be heading toward the same tally if you have three or four average slices. Pizza can be part of a healthy meal, but remember that a major portion of the meal should come from vegetables, fruits and other plant-based foods. The tomato sauce on pizza is an excellent source of the phytochemical called lycopene, but using some sauce and a few sliced vegetables on top won't achieve that balance. Limit your pizza portions to control fat and calories, and include veggies not only on your pizza, but on the side as well (in a salad or side dish), and have fruit for dessert. Ordering "half cheese" will cut about 20 calories and 2 grams of fat for a typical two-slice serving, but that's minimal compared to the savings if you limit your portions.

NicH.


Thanks, that was very informative

fierce
06-18-2005, 07:35 AM
:withstupi
If it's you're cheat meal i wouldn't worry so much. Isn't that pretty much the point of a 'cheat meal'?

Way i see it, if you're gonna do it, do it properly.

Yeah, im not so worried about it... But even for my cheat meals I still kind of want to know how many calories I am taking in, you know?

Im just going to have to guess that the four slices held around 600 calories, which would put each slice @ 150.

need4muscle
06-18-2005, 08:14 AM
Isn't pizza good for someone who wants to bulk up? I mean cheese does have a ton of protein in it and pizza normally has quite a bit of cheese on it.

fierce
06-18-2005, 09:46 AM
Isn't pizza good for someone who wants to bulk up? I mean cheese does have a ton of protein in it and pizza normally has quite a bit of cheese on it.

yeah probably, but i dont think its a very good food to eat even while bulking.. its not very 'clean'

i prob should have mentioned i am dieting too :)

Hoobastank
06-18-2005, 11:02 AM
You can take a paper towel and wipe off the grease and all and still get the flavor with cutting out some of the calories, etc. also.

NicH.

Holto
06-18-2005, 05:17 PM
there is nothing unhealthy about pizza it's just really high in calories

fat is and essential nutrient, we would die without it

MasterOfPuppets
06-18-2005, 05:22 PM
Pizza is AWFUL if you're trying to add lean mass. The carbs cause an insulinogenic spike, and all the fat from the cheese goes into your cells quickly, resulting in fat storage. :) I hate pizza...

MOP

Holto
06-19-2005, 08:36 AM
Pizza is AWFUL if you're trying to add lean mass. The carbs cause an insulinogenic spike, and all the fat from the cheese goes into your cells quickly, resulting in fat storage. :) I hate pizza...

MOP

and by fat you mean the slowest digesting macro ever

talk to someone that uses a glycometer

eating carbs and fat does not create a huge insulin response nor does it raise your blood sugar substantively

and even if it did:

1) you deposit fat after every meal
2) your body is burning fat at all times
3) permanent fat only occurs during a calorie surplus

YungLifter
06-19-2005, 08:41 AM
hm so ice cream would work the same way? since it has a good amount of fat to

Holto
06-19-2005, 10:08 AM
yes the fat will slow the gastric emptying
(contents leaving the stomach)

and modulate it's uptake into the bloodstream
(slow it's crossing the membrane in the small intestine & entering hepatic circulation)

the bottom line is gaining fat is determined by the quantity of calories not the quality

we eat clean to maximize the nutritive value of our food, not because clean food is magic

ie:

clean bulk VS dirty bulk

the real difference is in the number of calories we eat above maintenance

YungLifter
06-19-2005, 10:55 AM
yea but if you think about it theirs not that much unhealthy food that has good amount of protein which you need. The foods with highest amounts of protein usually are healthy (chicken/fish/red meat/turkey). So I guess you can eat dirty but for you to get the protein you need you will have to be eating a good amount of healthy food.

spencerjrus
06-19-2005, 11:20 AM
yea but if you think about it theirs not that much unhealthy food that has good amount of protein which you need. The foods with highest amounts of protein usually are healthy (chicken/fish/red meat/turkey). So I guess you can eat dirty but for you to get the protein you need you will have to be eating a good amount of healthy food.


Why do you not include dairy?

YungLifter
06-19-2005, 11:34 AM
sorry how can i forget lol, yes dairy has alot protein to, was typing kind of fast hehe

Canadian Crippler
06-19-2005, 01:28 PM
yea but if you think about it theirs not that much unhealthy food that has good amount of protein which you need. The foods with highest amounts of protein usually are healthy (chicken/fish/red meat/turkey). So I guess you can eat dirty but for you to get the protein you need you will have to be eating a good amount of healthy food.Pizza has lots of protein. So do burgers and hot dogs. "dirty" foods can still have just as much or more protein than clean foods, they likely just have lots of trans/saturated fats and ****ty carbs.

YungLifter
06-19-2005, 01:35 PM
Oh i was counting burgers as red meat. If you get the leaner ground beef and make your own burgers I wouldn't see that as being "dirty".

Manveet
06-21-2005, 07:01 PM
the bottom line is gaining fat is determined by the quantity of calories not the quality

we eat clean to maximize the nutritive value of our food, not because clean food is magic

ie:

clean bulk VS dirty bulk

the real difference is in the number of calories we eat above maintenance

Great post!

PowerManDL
06-21-2005, 07:15 PM
I hope it's not bad for me since I"ve been choking down a large just about every night. Usually after dumping olive oil on it.

getfit
06-21-2005, 07:17 PM
I hope it's not bad for me since I"ve been choking down a large just about every night. Usually after dumping olive oil on it.
i thought you were adding DQ blizzards to your pizza's ;) :p

PowerManDL
06-21-2005, 07:20 PM
Who says I don't?

getfit
06-21-2005, 07:23 PM
Who says I don't?
c'mon MATT that's just gross olive oil yes but then again you never know with you! ;)