View Full Version : Gotta get strong for football/skinnier for school. Possible?
07-06-2005, 12:50 AM
I'm 5'5". I'm 192 lbs, and I only bench 160 and *truly* squat 200. I have weight training/pre-season football drills every Monday and Thursday.
I'm gonna be a Junior, so that means playing varsity football.
I want to be a defensive tackle again. Last season I played 3 downs on JV. Yeah, I know. And now I'll be up with the big boys! Is there any hope for me to be good enough to start this season? Our first game is like 6 weeks away. Any hope?
Along with needing to get stronger for the football aspect of the year, I need to lose weight for the social/school aspect. I think I have all my weight in all the wrong places, like my chest, stomach, and obliques.
So what, do I like need to go on some water and bread diet or something to be able to do either of these?
07-06-2005, 01:22 AM
Here's a guideline for your diet: http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=46565
Eat what's on that thread. As for getting stronger, eat a lot and lift heavy and consistently, and rest.
As for losing weight (the healthy way), go on www.fitday.com and eat below your maintenance calories and lift weights and rest.
It's hard to do both at the same time in such a short amount of time. Your best bet is to pick one for now, and focus on that, and when you feel you have done enough of that (probably bulking and gaining strength for now), then do a cut.
07-06-2005, 05:39 AM
Man that sucks about the football thing :( Was last year your first year or something? Anyways, doing a water diet isn't going to do **** for you I wouldn't think.. Especially with football going on man. You need strength. What do you guys do on Monday and Thursday? We have ours Monday Wednesday Friday for 2 hours of lifting and running drills. If I were you I'd go to the diet/nutrition part of these forums and get a good healthy diet going and stick to it.. www.fitday.com like fix said is a good place to start that diet. Don't be harsh on yourself while football is going on, you'll get fatigued man. Defensive tackle is a pretty tough position, I play the same :) Getting double teamed all the time sucks haha. Just keep up the good work, and stick to your diet and by next football season you'll be whoopin @$$. Follow the threads around here, there's a lot of smart people here unlike me. Don't trust a guy named xXxHoLyWaRsxXx he's the Devil :)
07-06-2005, 09:14 AM
Well last year was pretty much my first year. Our coaches were doing some really stupid crap. We had a JV team of like 50 and 30 of them were linemen. But we had like 22 people playing EVERY position, so somebody would be on kickoff return, then back to playing backer or line or something. And I went into every game honestly thinking I'd get to play. But the one game I played the 3 downs in was against our rivals and I got a tackle! And those few minutes I got to play was the best time I've ever had in my life! I loved it! But we've got 3 new coaches this year: a new head coach, a receiver coach, and a d-line coach.
I just want to play. I can't not play, you know? And I don't think I can spend another whole season going to practices every day and never play in a game. I just can't do that again. But if I can't be good enough to play I'd like to at least not be fat again all year.
I looked at the nutrition forum, but I like structured environments. That's another reason I'd like to be in the military someday. But I need to know like exactly what to eat (in 3 meals if possible) cause there's not much variety here living with four younger siblings. I need to know simply like eggs, vegetable, etc. and how much to eat or not.
07-06-2005, 09:18 AM
Well, I don't really know your options and available times. Also, you don't have to eat it all in 3 meals. Lots of people have 5-7 meals throughout the day. All you gotta do is try eating some of that stuff on that thread, track it on www.fitday.com and see if it's in the caloric range you want it. Then make subtle revisions to that depending on your needs. And lift heavy. :ninja:
07-06-2005, 12:37 PM
I can't download that on my computer, cause it's not really mine.
But what I need to know is how much of what I eat will be goin to muscle and how much to fat. Is there any food that just builds muscle and no fat???
07-06-2005, 02:23 PM
First of all, you're not downloading any programs. All you're doing is regestering on the site. It's free too.
And it's next to impossible to build pure muscle and no fat at all. There are some exceptions, but short answer: you can't build muscle without putting on some amount of fat. But if you diet right, you can build mostly muscle. The way to do that is to go on FitDay and figure out your maintenance calories and then eat a bit above that, lift heavy, rest, and you're all set.
07-06-2005, 02:56 PM
You need to decide if you want to be a good DT, or look pretty.
My guess - the work you do to become a good DT will get you into shape, and you'll look plenty pretty.
07-06-2005, 06:24 PM
i agree whole heartedly with Paul, you have to decided which is best for you. Trust me im an offensivelineman and DT and pretty usually dont go together...lol
definetly at just 192, unless your fast as ****, i work in the weight room trying to get as strong as possible and as big as possible. you may manage to crack the 200 pound mark by the begining of the season and trust me if you through it on is mostly muscle you wont look as bad as you think.
plus if you good and football and a cool person you will have ladies anyway...lol
at least it worked for me, while being 280 pounds throughout highschool
07-07-2005, 03:54 PM
Dude, if you want to be a defensive lineman losing weight is the wrong idea. You're gonna need to get a lot more bulk on your body, and some of it will be fat. Defensive tackles need some fat, because you can't move too well when you are 300 pounds of solid muscle. Look at the best in the game; Ted Washington, Kris Jenkins, Vince Wilfork, Warren Sapp (arguably). They aren't ripped.
07-07-2005, 08:35 PM
I know. I want to get bigger and everything, I'm just tired of gaining all my weight from fat and having it all be on my chest and sides.
07-07-2005, 08:49 PM
well work out hard and eat right and do tons of squats
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