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Chris Rodgers
12-12-2001, 08:47 PM
I have set-up my diet plan for when I start to bulk in January. I have the whole day set just how I like it except for the last meal before bed. I'm not doing an all-or-nothing get hyyyuuuge diet. I'm trying to gain some solid size. I have heard conflicting arguments about whether or not to have fat before bed, but I personally feel better when I've had some. I also don't like to eat any thing big before bed cause I feel like crap.


I was thinking of having some almonds with a little bit of whey. I realize that whey is digested quickly, but the almonds should slow that somewhat and I don't feel like having all different kinds of protein powders. I just want to stick with the whey. Any thoughts?

big calvin
12-12-2001, 08:58 PM
peanut butter sandwhich with some whole milk. :D

TIME TO GET BIG LATS!

Big Show
12-12-2001, 09:44 PM
A tbsp or 2 of Flax Seed oil mixed in with my final shake of the night is what I do. And don't get to big too quick or else I'll have to catch up to ya':p

Maki Riddington
12-12-2001, 09:49 PM
I would have some eggs and cheese before bed......mmmmmmmm.
Scramble them up, or you can have almonds and a whey shake.

little guy
12-12-2001, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by big calvin
peanut butter sandwhich with some whole milk. :D

TIME TO GET BIG LATS!

Ha! That's what I eat. Except I drink skim milk. Peanut butter has enough fat for me. ;)

YatesNightBlade
12-13-2001, 02:36 AM
Peanut butter with Skim Milk and some Cottage Cheese would be a good choice. Zero Effort.

Chris Rodgers
12-13-2001, 09:45 AM
Latty= not a big fan of dairy(at least his stomach isn't :( )


So basically I want to know if the almonds and whey is a bad idea? Maki seems to like it.

CBates
12-13-2001, 10:44 AM
I'm in the same boat as you, I have my whole day meals planned except my last meal of the day so I'm also looking for the same advice.. I was also considering almonds also as my last meal.. I was considering cottage cheese, but I already consume too much dairy how it is already throughout my day..

mr_hand
12-13-2001, 10:44 AM
Now, what if you are not bulking, but cutting? Then what would you use for your last meal before bed?

Tryska
12-13-2001, 10:48 AM
well whey is kinda fast-acting as a protein.....where casein is more slow release.

I kinda dig the egs and cheese idea of maki's.

the doc
12-13-2001, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by Tryska
well whey is kinda fast-acting as a protein.....where casein is more slow release.

I kinda dig the egs and cheese idea of maki's.

:nod:

or tuna and peanut butter!!

Chris Rodgers
12-13-2001, 10:53 AM
*cough*not a fan of dairy..cheese=dairy*cough*


How about some eggs and almonds?

Tryska
12-13-2001, 10:56 AM
tuna and peanut butter has no dairy in it. :D

here's your guideline:

slow release protein (meat, fish or dairy source)

fat (preferably a clean fat)

eggs and almonds would work.

Chris Rodgers
12-13-2001, 11:03 AM
Thanks T :thumbup:

CBates
12-13-2001, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by Tryska
well whey is kinda fast-acting as a protein.....where casein is more slow release.

I kinda dig the egs and cheese idea of maki's.

If on a cutting diet would one want to use whole eggs or just egg whites?? I'm not too sure on the fat before bed when cutting..

Tryska
12-13-2001, 11:09 AM
fats before bed are fine, and you could do either or, whole eggs have lots of good stuff in them.

i personally, don't eat a meal just before going to sleep.

actually, scratch that, technically i do, because by the time i get to dinner, it's 2 hours before bed anyway. I typically have a salad with some sort of protein in it, with balsamic vinaigrette made with olive oil topping it.

Reinier
12-13-2001, 11:09 AM
arent almonds a bit expensive to use as a source for anything?

<----- low budget lifter, still looking to score some cheap whey

Avatar
12-13-2001, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by Reinier
arent almonds a bit expensive to use as a source for anything?

<----- low budget lifter, still looking to score some cheap whey

if you think almonds are expensive, your in the wrong sport.

Avatar
12-13-2001, 12:10 PM
Latman, depends if you want protein/carbs or protein/fats before bed. If you want a protein fat combo I'd go with something like this:
a) 1-2 cups of Cottage cheese (protein mainly casein)
b) eggs + milk (protein in milk is mostly casein again, and eggs are fairly slow absorbing as well)

For protein/Fats I would go with:
a)eggs + flax oil
b)tuna + flax oil
c)eggs + almonds
d)tuna + almonds
Flax oil probably being your best fat, since most people are omega-3 deficient.

IMHO, out of all those options, since you are bulking, I'd go with the cottage cheese.

Chris Rodgers
12-13-2001, 12:29 PM
IMHO you guys aren't reading what I am saying!!!! Lacose intolerance is a biatch!!

Hehe. I think I'll go with the Eggs and almonds just because it seems to be ok by you guys and I know I'll have no problems eating that regularly. Thanks

Tryska
12-13-2001, 12:30 PM
*lol* i was waiting for you to get all scrappy.

Avatar
12-13-2001, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by LATMAN
IMHO you guys aren't reading what I am saying!!!! Lacose intolerance is a biatch!!


lmao you actually think we pay attention to what you write?
Lactose intolerant you say? lol be a man and down the cottage cheese anyways. :D

YatesNightBlade
12-14-2001, 02:48 AM
Have you tried Milk Latty ?

Chris Rodgers
12-14-2001, 07:32 AM
LMAO


Hmmm, what's this milk you speak of? Is that from that there cow thingies?

dharmendra
12-17-2001, 12:50 AM
IWUOLD GO IN FOR some skimmed milk and eggs .
A little fat before bed is not too damaging but try and avioding carbs. since you cannot slep with a pretty full stomach this would be ideal I eat quiet a wholesome meal before bed because i do not have a problem with sleeping on a full stomach. :angel:

mickeys
12-20-2001, 04:42 PM
whey with glutamine (helps prevent catabolism during the night and muscle break down) and some peanut butter or almonds

Orange357
12-20-2001, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by mickeys
whey with glutamine (helps prevent catabolism during the night and muscle break down) and some peanut butter or almonds

I'd go with caesine(sp?) since it anti-catabolic..Milk=Ace:cool:

dharmendra
12-20-2001, 11:53 PM
any proiten that is slowly absorbed will do casien is the best optoin.how many beef fans here??:cool: :angel:

heathj
12-21-2001, 10:40 AM
I eat:

1 can tuna
1 tbsp flax seed oil
16 oz. milk

Ronan
12-21-2001, 11:00 AM
6-7oz of steak and 4 whole eggs
vegtables or salad

Reinier
12-21-2001, 02:32 PM
"6-7oz of steak and 4 whole eggs "

ronan is a f`ing animal.

the doc
12-21-2001, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by Ronan
6-7oz of steak and 4 whole eggs
vegtables or salad

yum yum~

flake
12-22-2001, 02:26 PM
I was wondering why no one said it before...

steak. lots of it.

Reinier
12-22-2001, 02:44 PM
wouldn`t eating a significant amount of steak every day be costly?

The_Chicken_Daddy
12-22-2001, 03:04 PM
Ja ist es einer der hinunter Seiten zu diesem Hobby/Sport. eh saugt?

Chris Rodgers
12-22-2001, 03:58 PM
Don't know about the 4 whole eggs on top of it, but I may actually go with the steak as my last meal. Maybe a lean steak, and a salad with flax on it?

the_hall
12-30-2001, 10:11 PM
I dont have to worry about having a last meal for the day. Me, I just wake up during the middle of the night, and eat some protien. Then I brush my teeth, and I go back to bed. I sleep like a baby after that. Just get yourself a real loud alarm.