The ratio of weight used for barbell chest flies to bench press?

[ClubberLang]

Hi.. I was just wondering.. because I typically place alotta emphasis on bench press.. and usually end up supersetting some light weights for fly's. If I am benching 220*8 for regular sets.... how heavy should my dumbells be for fly's?

[MixmasterNash]

As heavy as you can go for the number of reps you want. Why is this so hard? Just try.

[fixationdarknes]

Just a guess: maybe around 45-50 lbs? Just try it and see.

[jkirkpatrick]

I flye 50lb dumbbells for 10, 9, 8, and occassionaly 5. edit: flyes are my last chest set so I don' t know any stats if they were my first working set.

I don't know my bench stat as I've always used dumbbells (75lbers). I recently picked up a squat rack that I can use as a self-spotting bench press so I'll find out soon!

If I was you, I'd try 50lbs. Up the intensity by decreasing your rest time inbetween sets. Watch your form!

[ElPietro]

Also realize that everyone's flye form is quite different. If someone says they flye 50-70 lbs in each hand, you can be sure that their arm is not going to be straight or nearly straight throughout the ROM. Some people go nearly straight arm (hardest) all the way to a pretty much 90 degree angle (easiest). You should use whatever form you prefer and figure it out.

There is no correlation between lifts, and trying to figure it out is a big waste of time.

[jkirkpatrick]

^ in regards to form - very true. My elbows are ~30 degrees and my hands go to parallel to the floor. Works for me.

[flabbybones]

How exactly is a barbell chest fly even possible?

[wrestlemaniac]

I suppose if you had very good stablizers anything is possible. People would probably think you were an alien and this was the first time you heard of the word "gym" though.