Bad experience with thermogenics :(

[Lurch]

Well, this morning I decided to get off my fat ass and start lifting again (2 month hiatus). So I eat oatmeal, a banana, and drink a bunch of water. So I took some ThermoBurst (GNC) about an hour before working out. After about 15-30 minutes I started to get a HORRIBLE stomach ache. I then got to work and got ready to work out. I then took a 1/2 of 1/2 dose of VPX Redline. I did a 5 minute warmup on the bike, then started doing my bench. Finished about 3 sets on bench, then did lat pulldowns. After that, I started feeling REALLY sick.

Jumped in the shower and the thermogenics kicked in hardcore. I was hot, so I turned the shower a bit colder, got really cold and started shaking REALLY bad. Then I turned it on hotter, got too hot. This is when I really lost it. I started throwing up all over in the work shower. I am still shaking almost 45 minutes later, though I don't feel sick anymore.

I figure I just over did it with the energy stuff, since I really didn't over exert myself.

Has anyone else had a similar experience?

I am thinking of just stopping with taking the pills/Redline all together, does this sound like a good plan, or should I modify or drop one of the two?

Thanks for listening and the help in advance.

[malkore]

so, it sounds like you took a dose of two different thermogenics within an hour of each other, and you're wondering why it had an adverse effect?

How about: you took twice the recommended dose in 60 mins!
Seriously, every thermogenic I've tried, which includes ephedra, stated to start with a half dose the first week, then go to a normal dose. Instead you doubled up on day 1.

[Lurch]

I took 3 pills of the ThermoBurst, which it says to take on the back of the bottle. Then I took 1/2 of a beginning dose of VPX Redline (1/4 a spoonful).

I had done this in the past for about 2 months, and NEVER had any problems like this.

It also just crossed my mind that both are around 6 months old, would this have any effect on the effectiveness/potency?

[malkore]

it could be that the VPX has become unstable...or evaporated and increased the concentration (since only the liquid/water, not the medication would evaporate).

[Canadian Crippler]

Try not mixing the products (as in dont take both). They do warn you about that on the labels.

[korexite]

dont use anything made by GNC
redline has a reputation for making people a bit cracked out. They dont list the amount of yohimbine and its probably pretty high.

try the redline alone.

though I personally reccomend that people use
Pure EC
or
Thermorexin

[Shao-LiN]

Or work up to using both at the same time, don't just throw both together.

[BossHawg02]

I experienced a really bad experience with some stacker two when I was like 15 or 16....when I was dumb.....I was in the middle of my cycle when spring football came up...and I was shedding so much weight and feeling good I was like I'm not gona stop for that one week during football the first couple of days were aight I got a little hot and felt bad but toughed it out....well friday(green/gold scrimmage) I was hyped got up that morning took my 2 stackers after a light brekfast got to school everything went well....got to the fieldhouse suited up....light practice before game....got out in the sun like an ass....started gettin after It, goin both ways....started goin into a cold sweat and stomach cramps but wasn't about to come out of game....I was kickin ass...who would want to come out....started playing left tackle and we ran option two times in a row....I was in damn good shape....man it felt like I couldn't catch my wind to save my life....that second option....I swung out to block OLB and I put everything I had into it....hit em and laid there forever til coach came over....man it felt like I was on fire....took all my gear off as fast as I could....almost blacking out....got rushed in the fieldhouse and thrown into an Ice whirlpool scariest time of my life....I was so stupid for doing that....trainer said I coulda been gone 5 mins later....and she couldn't believe I didnt have a stroke....but that was my close call....I play it smart now

[sharkall2003]

Damn everyone seems to have bad side effects. I take Ginseng, Green Tea and Ripped Fuel and I have had no problems.

Where can you find caffeine and ephedrine? I would like to start taking these to things together instead of spending money on Ripped Fuel.

[pbsteve09]

hmmm if i were to do a thermogenic stack id just use some greentea+caffiene and call it a day.

[korexite]

Or work up to using both at the same time, don't just throw both together.

good advice