Difference between NO2 and Nitrix?

[wildbill ws6]

Right now I currently take eas creatine and protien. I have been working out for about a year now and have seen great gains in both size and strengh. My buddy takes NO2 and loves it but its way to $$$ in my eyes but it seems nitrix is the same thing for 1/2 the price. Let me know what yall think. Also, I might consider taking HMB to give it a try.

[pbsteve09]

Hey if you consider taking an NO2 product...the biggest reaction around here is that you will be waisting your money. I took No2...and it was the biggest waste of 80 some bucks of my life!!! I still to this day cant believe that i fell into that scam. Just stick with a multivitamin, creatine, protein, fish oil....call it a day. Then bust your a*s in the gym, rest, EAT, and repeat....youll get where you need to without that NO2 *****

steve

[MM]

Buy chicken.

[wildbill ws6]

what about HMB

[BossHawg02]

man, No2 is Garb.....man get some protein probably a multi vitamin and just eat......can probably catch a sale coming up at GNC here in bout 2 weeks....there prices arent that bad....

[wildbill ws6]

man, No2 is Garb.....man get some protein probably a multi vitamin and just eat......can probably catch a sale coming up at GNC here in bout 2 weeks....there prices arent that bad....
i already take protien and creatine and eat good. just wondering if there is anything else

[Shao-LiN]

what about HMB

Worthless.

[sharkall2003]

i already take protien and creatine and eat good. just wondering if there is anything else

Hardwork, dedication and a commitment to yourself and your set.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

N02 is complete crap.

[wildbill ws6]

anyone else

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

Bro, you don't need another supplement. What you're taking is fine. You should be focusing more on your diet than taking more supplements.

[cosmicdebree88]

Sure, I'll say from personal experience that NO2 is junk. AND if you don't believe me I can find studies that I have read that prove that it is crap. It has little to do with nitric oxide, as NO levels are not raised significantly enough to make a big difference in your gains with these products. It's really just an arganine supplement which will give you a temporary "pump". Why anyone would want to spend $50-$80 of their hard earned money on junk like that is beyond me.

As for HMB, I have not tried it. But, I have also never read a good review for it...

As others have said, food, creatine, busting your ***** in the gym and rest will give you the best results (short of using steroids).

-Edited

[hoser813]

if you really want the 'pump', then buy a bottle of arginine for $3

[Slim Schaedle]

AND if you don't believe me I can find studies that I have read that prove that it is crap. It has nothing to do with actual nitric oxide in your body. It's really just an arganine supplement which will give you a temporary "pump".

Strange that arginine supplementation allows for an increase of eNOS (nitric oxide synthase), a process in which Nitric Oxide is produced by the endothelial (lining of the internal walls of blood vessels) which gives the "pump" ...yet, as you say, arginine has nothing to do with actual Nirtic Oxide.

Perplexing

[cosmicdebree88]

Strange that arginine supplementation allows for an increase of eNOS (nitric oxide synthase), a process in which Nitric Oxide is produced by the endothelial (lining of the internal walls of blood vessels) which gives the "pump" ...yet, as you say, arginine has nothing to do with actual Nirtic Oxide.

Perplexing

IIRC it's the dosage of arganine in these nitric oxide products that make the difference in nitric oxide production negligable. Don't get me wrong there is a small increase in NO production. However, it is just not enough to produce anything close to the effects that these companies claim. I will search for the study I read...

[Slim Schaedle]

But you said Arginine has nothing to do with actua Nitric Oxide in the body

[cosmicdebree88]

But you said Arginine has nothing to do with actua Nitric Oxide in the body

What I meant was that these NO2 supplements or whatever the "pump" supplement might be, do not significantly raise your nitric oxide levels to a point where the claimed nutrient delivery/permanent gains are possible. Sorry for the confusion... I even edited my first post.

[Slim Schaedle]

What I meant was that these NO2 supplements or whatever the "pump" supplement might be, do not significantly raise your nitric oxide levels to a point where the claimed nutrient delivery/permanent gains are possible. Sorry for the confusion... I even edited my first post.
The edit sounds better.

Although, without reading studies, I would suspect that nitric oxide levels are raised significantly given the fact that the arteries become dialted, allowing more blood flow into arterioles and then capillaries. The body actually does this on its own without the use of supplementation. (Hemoglobin picking up oxygen in lungs, and then biding to NO that is secreted by lungs and endothelial cells)

The pump is a result of the need for return of oxygen-lacking blood to the heart through the veins. The "surge" of venous blood is a result of increased flow in the arteries (dialation) So these products certainly do their job in that respect.

However, the degree of increased nutrient uptake (and in turn, muscle growth) as the result of increased blood delivery, as the companies claim, is certainly in question. So I agree with you on that.