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HighlyFanatic
12-21-2001, 03:04 AM
300 bench ive seen done


400 pound squat?! god i cant imagine that......im guessin you'd need a spotter around at all times; how the hell do you get it up there to begin with
:D

Joe Black
12-21-2001, 03:15 AM
lol who is this directed at?

I think there is quite a few people that squat over 400 here. I too plan on being there in a couple of years :)

I have seen it done by a few people at my gym also.

If I am right Ronan squats this and he is 18 ;)

also a 300 lb bench has to bemore impressive than a 400 squat right?

little guy
12-21-2001, 03:48 AM
Originally posted by Hulk
If I am right Ronan squats this and he is 18 ;)

Wow, I didn't know he was so young. Damn! Very impressive for his age. Anyway 400 isn't all that much, one of my friends could squat 600+. But then again he is 210lbs and took the paradise cup here in Hawaii.

Praetorian
12-21-2001, 04:02 AM
well..I'll be squatting 500lbs within a few months...

big
12-21-2001, 04:32 AM
yea 400 aint that much, just give me a few reps :D

W8_4_Me
12-21-2001, 06:48 AM
Yeah, that really isn't that much. I guess that's kind of a lot for the basic recreational lifter, but in the scheme of things, it's not all that impressive.

Joe Black
12-21-2001, 06:52 AM
well I wouldnlt say its not a lot. Its impressive if you ask me..

However I would not be as suprised as HighlyFanatic was :)

syntekz
12-21-2001, 07:26 AM
Sounds impressive to me.

HK
12-21-2001, 08:44 AM
Considered it as full squat, instead of those that claimed to be parallel or close to parallel (half/quarter squat in fact), it is way more impressive than a 300lb bench. Look at Dave Draper's impressive squat pic at his website. It is impressive.

Paul Stagg
12-21-2001, 09:06 AM
A true 400+ squat is outstanding for a lifter 200 pounds or less.

It isn't all that unusual, though.

I'm doing a PLing meet in Feb as a 220, and I'll probably squat just over 400. I'll be competing against people who squat over 600.

CBates
12-21-2001, 09:20 AM
A 400+ pound squat isn't that impressive. @ 170 pounds, every power lifting meet I went to, I hit 450+ everytime. There were guys there though that was hitting over 500 though and under 185..

mrsombat
12-21-2001, 09:47 AM
Well Dennis James has got a center fold pic doing FRONT SQUATS with 405.........

400 lbs squats are really not that much......now 5 plates up for reps now we are talking.

Sombat

gopro
12-21-2001, 09:51 AM
My training partner, who is a champion natural middleweight bodybuilder, squatted 445 the other day at a weight of 185. He also has a 495 deadlift. Not a great bencher though. Strong mofo he is!

Adam
12-21-2001, 11:19 AM
A 400 squat could be impressive depending on how big the person is,there age, or if they are a bodybuilder or powerlifter. In powerlifting the largest squat right now is 1041! I met up with a guy at my last comp. that was 21 weighed 215 and squated 656 easy. He has a 425 front squat too!

Ronan
12-21-2001, 12:12 PM
I am squatting 450 for 7 full reps at the moment. My form has improved alot too which really helps with leg growth.

As long as you are pushing as hard and as heavy a YOU can it is impressive in my opinion.

Tadger
12-21-2001, 12:13 PM
I was squatting 400 at 5'7 165lbs. I've been lifting with a guy that's 5'6 140 and sqatting 400. He was goin just below parallel as well. Granted, us short guys don't have as far to move but still. lol. 300lb bench is more impressive and something I have some time before I hit.

Gyno Rhino
12-21-2001, 12:33 PM
400 is impressive.

kAto
12-21-2001, 03:39 PM
id have to say that a 300lbs bench is mucj more impressive then a 400lbs squat; 400lbs for a squat is very common, at 19 i was hitting 350 for 12 reps, it was mentally hard to visualize 4 plates on each side, but nonetheless conquerd, my ultimate goal is to squat 3x my body weight. and bench 2x.

Chris Rodgers
12-21-2001, 06:21 PM
I think it's impressive. I've seen plenty of people write that they can squat 400+, but in the gym you don't see it much.


I suck at squatting and suck at benching, but I'm beginning to think that a 300 bench is gonna be easier for me to get than a 400 squat.

chris mason
12-21-2001, 06:48 PM
Well, like all non-sanctioned lifts, it is all relative. For example, if one squats with the bar high on the back and goes down to a point where their ass almost touches the floor, 400 lbs without a suit, knee wraps, and a powerlifting belt is quite a lot. If one squats to a roughly parallel position, with the bar low on the back, knee wraps etc., then it is still a good lift, but not fantastic. Form and helping apparatus can make a huge difference in the squat. For myself, there is a huge difference in what I can squat if I go to parallel vs. ass to the floor. Always be wary of what someone claims to lift on the internet because of the huge role that form can play.

Podium Kreatin
12-21-2001, 09:35 PM
Tadger, u're rite on short ppl squatting a lot! i haven't lifted that long, usually only in the summer, and sporadically everytime else, but when i was 5'4 at 135-40, my squat was 355. my twin bro squatted 365x2 at 130. too bad i got really sick recently, i was really looking forward to squatting 400 at under 140 (i'm ~140 now) by next summer, but it seems unlikely now.

Alex.V
12-21-2001, 09:45 PM
Well damn, I say the bench is more impressive.



lol. Really.

;)

Budiak
12-21-2001, 11:08 PM
Hell, I squat 400lbs every time I heft my sac off the ground.

dharmendra
12-22-2001, 12:52 AM
Ima a biggener (1 month of traning )and can squat 205 for 10
How long do you think I will take to get there . my goal is to do it in one year.:cool: :angel: 's:confused:

Gyno Rhino
12-22-2001, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by LATMAN
I think it's impressive. I've seen plenty of people write that they can squat 400+, but in the gym you don't see it much.

And there's the truth. Lots of people say they can, but rarely do you see it. I've had people come up in the past claiming to squat 400+ and thenwatch them get stuck under 275lbs on the friggin' smith machine. What a joke.

big
12-22-2001, 11:28 AM
true

Reinier
12-22-2001, 12:56 PM
i never lie about my lifts.

(mm maybe thats why i have the smallest lifts around here....)

Podium Kreatin
12-22-2001, 01:28 PM
well, most ppl in the gym are normal ppl who don't lift as much as the ppl in lifting forums, so the forums'll have the more dedicated ppl, and therefore the more 400+ squats.

Ronan
12-22-2001, 01:36 PM
Your stance and depth makes a big difference to the numbers I must agree. If your more interested in seeing what you can lift a wider stance which just hits parellel is going to give you more power as it puts the glutes, hams and spinal erectors in a stronger position.

If you are squatting for leg size I feel a deep closer stance squat is the best.

Reinier
12-22-2001, 01:49 PM
"If you are squatting for leg size I feel a deep closer stance squat is the best."

could you explain?

syntekz
12-22-2001, 06:22 PM
This is because with a wider stance 'it puts the glutes, hams and spinal erectors in a stronger position.'

Just like Ronan said. Closer stance makes your quads do more of the work.

Accipiter
12-23-2001, 12:34 AM
At 17 I was squatting 315 for sets of 10 3 sets in a row, was afraid to go much higher, as the protective equipment in the squat cage didn't look like it would really break the barbells fall, rather than just impede it, and give me a second to look up before the weight smashed my head in..

Jeremy Ray
12-23-2001, 01:25 PM
My friend maxed 400 last week. I think it's impressive. He's my age, 17, and around 170-180.

A 300 lb bench by someone who wasn't a fat ass would be more impressive though.


When maxing should I use a wider stance than I normally do to put up a higher number or should I train with a wider stance? I'm just interested in strength and not size.

HK
12-23-2001, 03:20 PM
If you do it this way, there is no way I say you are not impressive.
If you are only doing only half squats with equipment, then yeah that is not impressive at all.

Look at this! (http://www.davedraper.com/photo-arnold-draper.html)

Franco
12-23-2001, 03:46 PM
Classic picture

Orange357
12-23-2001, 03:51 PM
I love the spotting arnie does

syntekz
12-23-2001, 04:44 PM
Just him working out there with you would probably make your lift more. ;)

Orange357
12-23-2001, 05:14 PM
yeah but if i was gonna deep squat that nuch he should at least be a little closer than that...

chris mason
12-23-2001, 06:18 PM
Now, that is a full squat by Dave Draper, and yes, it is very impressive to see someone squat that deep with 4 plates for reps. In the grand scheme of things, there are not very many people that can do that, regardless of what some people on this site are claiming.

smoothreality
12-23-2001, 07:43 PM
I just got 525 last wed.

Adam
12-23-2001, 09:16 PM
Not trying to start anything but in the pic of Dave he is only going a couple inches below parellel. Reason it looks deep is because his knees are so far forward.

Alex.V
12-23-2001, 09:42 PM
You tell 'im, man. Shitty squat, dave.

:rolleyes:

Gyno Rhino
12-23-2001, 09:44 PM
*nod chris* It's rare to see someone doing that (even once), especially for reps. I doubt there are that many people on the site that could duplicate that lift.

Chris Rodgers
12-23-2001, 09:52 PM
Pfft, he's got his heal elevated. I'm not impressed. :p

syntekz
12-23-2001, 11:48 PM
Slightly lower than parrallel? What more do you want? His ass is basically touching his calves.

Adam
12-24-2001, 12:14 AM
The reason I said that is because most people here claim that they squat well below parellel but they are calling this a very deep squat. In fact this is 3 inches or so below parellel. This was not meant to disrespect Dave in any way.

dharmendra
12-24-2001, 01:45 AM
I think if you have high degree of hamstring devolepment then what seems like a slightly below parallel squat is in reality a full squat because you cannot go any further than that.:cool: :angel:

Shocker
12-24-2001, 03:59 AM
hmmm, craqzy pic - easy to hurt yourself doing that I'll bet.

someone posted an article in a thread recently regarding squats and the author was talking about 900 lb squats.

Is this mythical cause the figures that u guys are talknig about are nowhere near that.

Yeah I was tripping out about that because the author was saying that 800lbs is for pussies. (ok then)

Franco
12-24-2001, 04:44 AM
Shocker - As Gb mentioned previously in this thread the biggest squat in powerlifting at the moment stands at 1041lbs

Shocker
12-24-2001, 05:05 AM
hoho - damn! how do these ppl walk!!!

boom boom boom 0- Santa is on roids and he squat back up the chimney - meeeeerry Christmaaass zzzz!

Reinier
12-24-2001, 06:18 AM
Santa is on roids! duh!
hes a senior powerlifting world champ.

chris mason
12-24-2001, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by getin bigger
The reason I said that is because most people here claim that they squat well below parellel but they are calling this a very deep squat. In fact this is 3 inches or so below parellel. This was not meant to disrespect Dave in any way.



How about this Bigger, with his heels elevated in the fashion they are, and his body type, he could not go any lower. If you can see where there is any room for further depth, I would be happy to be enlightened. If indeed his knees are forward to a greater degree than a normal squat, that just makes the feat even greater as there would be more emphasis on the quads and less on the powerful muscles of the hip girdle.

Smoothreality, did you squat 525 lbs to that depth without wraps? If so, you are an animal.

Let us put this another way, in my younger days when I squatted quite heavily, and before I injured both knees, I tried ass-to-the- floor squats. I had always done parallel squats previously. I was quite strong at the time. I did not use knee wraps for the deep squats. I was able to do 405 for 3-4 reps. I was also young and stupid and did not properly control the weight in the bottom position. Due to my anatomy, I am able to squat (flat-footed) extremely deep if I want to. Well, to make a long story short, I think my haphazard fashion of performing these super deep squats lead to my first real knee injury (right knee). It didn't happen while I was squatting, it happened at a book store when I bent down to a full squat. I stood back up and my right knee was suddenly unstable and like jello. Not good. I assume I injured the tendon/ligaments while squatting and the store bend was the straw that broke the camel's back (so to speak). I have just returned to deep squatting very recently. I never have had surgery on either knee, even though I am sure it is warranted. So, my knees are something I treat very carefully when lifting. I now pause in the very bottom position, after having very strongly controlled the last portions of my descent. I start the lifting portion with no bounce out of this bottom position. The moral here is that deep squats are ok, but be very strict with your form. In addition, my other point was that squatting 405 ass-to-the-floor (no wraps) is an impressive feat. At the time I did it, I trained at a large gym with some pretty big dudes and I don't know if more than a couple of them could have done it. I suppose ass-to-the-floor is a relative statement, but I mean it in the literal sense. When I perform them, my ass is only about 4-5 inches from the floor. One more thing, I think that performing squats in this fashion is also more impressive the taller the bodybuilder. The mechanics of the movement make the ROM for taller weightlifters much greater. The same is true for weightlifters of lower overall bodyfat/size. In other words, a guy like Paul Anderson would have a much shorter ROM in the full squat than Dave Draper or Arnold due to height and the sheer size of his lower body/stomach.

IGF-1
12-24-2001, 11:49 AM
:eek: damn chris! well said *applause* and sorry to hear about your knee damage

400 lbs squat is not unusual but as everyone has said well ahead of me it really matters how low and how much you weight.

Orange357
12-24-2001, 12:30 PM
Did the heal elevation give him any help?:confused:

chris mason
12-24-2001, 01:12 PM
It does in my opinion.

Orange357
12-24-2001, 01:15 PM
does it inhibit growth?

chris mason
12-25-2001, 12:24 PM
Not in my opinion. Just for the sake of presenting the whole picture, there are those on this site who believe that squatting with the heels elevated is dangerous (with respect to the knees), I do not feel this way.

body
12-25-2001, 01:25 PM
I do not believe squaitng with heels elavated is going to hurt your knees.
Some one about 6 months ago wrote some stuff on here about it. i think it was craig? forgot surname(i think he was a physio?). Chris M - you said he was very clever and think you traded advise with him.

I prefer sqauting with heels elevated as my ankles are not supple. the more elevated my high are, the less my back is involved so more emphasis on my legs. Which is a good thing.

chris mason
12-25-2001, 01:54 PM
Craig James is a very good friend of mine who posted here for a little while. He has a good working knowledge of anatomy due to his job as a sales rep for orthopedic products.

The_Chicken_Daddy
12-25-2001, 02:50 PM
it has to do with [a] the knees extending past the toes causing more sheer and [b] putting the hamstrings in a more vulnerable position.

I dont find it comfortable so i don't do it.

CoolBeans
12-26-2001, 08:38 PM
At age 17, 180lb, I am hovering around 290-295 lb Bench with a 360 squat. I think the 400 squat is more impressive actually. I have oshgood slaughter's disease (spelling) in my knees which make squats hard for me. My knees want to give out since my kneecap is not fused all the way due to a common growing disorder. I just have it really bad. Nothing I can do I guess but suck it up :)

W8_4_Me
12-27-2001, 06:42 PM
WOOOO HOOOOO!

I got a 495 lb squat today!!!

A new record for me.

I actually went to a real gym and they had all the cool equipment and spotters and the whole nine yards.

400 lbs, impossible? Hardly.

Chris Rodgers
12-27-2001, 09:04 PM
Hey W8, congrats man, that's huge.............even for a smith squat. :p

HK
12-28-2001, 12:15 AM
Did you do it like Dave Draper in the photo? If yes, you are very impressive.

W8_4_Me
12-28-2001, 07:55 AM
Did I mention the 315 bench for 2 reps?

Chris Rodgers
12-28-2001, 12:30 PM
Was that on the smith too? :p

Reinier
12-28-2001, 01:05 PM
i hope i never get any lifting injuries.
is that an impossible goal?

it seems like most the guys here that have been training for a while had some sort of injury, and probably hate themselves for doing that one thing wrong that day.
what could i do to prevent?
what mistakes did you make?

Adam
12-28-2001, 02:03 PM
Most injuries are not from one specific screw-up but are built up over time. There are no 100% ways from staying away from injuries but you can stay pretty safe by using your head. If you ever start to get a sharp pain in a muscle when lifting stop the lift and see whats wrong or if you have tendenitous(sp?) take time off and allow it to heal.

Gyno Rhino
12-28-2001, 02:41 PM
C'mon, now, W8. I can move aroudnb 495 in a smith machine (depending on foot stance, etc). How much can you back squat?

HK
12-28-2001, 09:03 PM
probably he could do 495 too ;)

W8_4_Me
12-29-2001, 05:09 PM
Aw, com'on, guys! Don't pee on my cornflakes. Let the old man have his little moment of glory.

Yestersay, I put 720 (16 45 lb plates) on the leg press sled. Got 2 reps. I was rather pleased with it. I don't know what the sled weight is worth on a Body Master sled.

It was great to get the chance to use this equipment. It cost $10 for each of the single days I worked out at this gym while on vacation in Savannah, GA.

Say what you will, but when an old guy like me gets poundages like that, it's cause to celebrate!

W8_4_Me
12-29-2001, 05:12 PM
Oh yeah...

I forgot to mention how FREAKIN' SORE I am today! Damn! It's sucks to be old.

:cry:

Chris Rodgers
12-30-2001, 04:36 PM
Ace job W8! :thumbup:

W8_4_Me
12-31-2001, 10:59 AM
See, Latman?

Was that so hard?

:D

Paul Stagg
12-31-2001, 11:05 AM
At your age, making it though the day without losing control of your bladder is cause for celebration, isn't it?

W8_4_Me
12-31-2001, 11:10 AM
Thanks, Paul.

:cry:

Not getting lost while walking around the block is a bonus as well.

Paul Stagg
12-31-2001, 12:23 PM
LOL.

Great lifting, BTW. At any age.

Alex.V
01-27-2002, 11:41 PM
Shameless BUMP!!!!!!

:D

PowerManDL
01-28-2002, 12:06 AM
Oh you bastard.......

*staggers away to squat rack*

Jane
01-28-2002, 05:21 AM
Originally posted by Belial
Shameless BUMP!!!!!!

:D

ROFLMAO!!!

Good job meathead.

MarshallPenn
01-28-2002, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by W8_4_Me
Aw, com'on, guys! Don't pee on my cornflakes. Let the old man have his little moment of glory.

Yestersay, I put 720 (16 45 lb plates) on the leg press sled. Got 2 reps. I was rather pleased with it. I don't know what the sled weight is worth on a Body Master sled.

It was great to get the chance to use this equipment. It cost $10 for each of the single days I worked out at this gym while on vacation in Savannah, GA.

Say what you will, but when an old guy like me gets poundages like that, it's cause to celebrate!

Ok, what gives? You squat 495 and get two reps at 720 on the press? I squat 225 for 8 reps, slow, deep, and legs a few inches apart, but on the leg press I can squeeze out 16 plates nice and slow, legs to my chest for eight reps, sometimes more. How do you squat so much compared to your press? Do I just suck at squatting?

Alex.V
01-28-2002, 01:34 PM
495 on smith machine squats.

Sorry guys, didn't mean to dredge up and old argument, I was just gloating. ;)

riegler
04-28-2010, 03:27 PM
I'm 16 and i squat 410 right as a freshman in highschool it's not that hard you just got to work hard and no i am not on steroids that would be stupid because i play football

kwconch
04-28-2010, 03:48 PM
im getting there im 15 and 180 lbs and i squat 385

BigCorey75
04-28-2010, 04:31 PM
wow, digging up old threads arent we??

seK
04-28-2010, 04:44 PM
Way old.
Some of the guys posted here are in the seniors home.

kmagnuss
04-28-2010, 04:48 PM
Riegler and kwconch... let's see some videos.

Off Road
04-28-2010, 04:58 PM
Digging up 5 year old threads?

Barring some physical disadvantage, I'd think almost everybody reading this could achieve a 400 lb squat given enough effort. Some guys will go way past that number.

Nicky
04-28-2010, 05:33 PM
I guess people were not very strong back in 2001.:scratch:

ThomasG
04-28-2010, 06:30 PM
I guess people were not very strong back in 2001.:scratch:

Durrr they didn't have cell tech back then!

SCmmaFAN
04-28-2010, 06:58 PM
Wow, digging up a 8+ year old thread....isn't that a record in itself?

joey54
04-28-2010, 08:41 PM
I don't ever remember reading this one before, and I wish I wouldn't have wasted my time doing it now.

Travis Bell
04-29-2010, 09:12 AM
I don't ever remember reading this one before, and I wish I wouldn't have wasted my time doing it now.

You and me both lol

ZenMonkey
04-29-2010, 10:12 AM
Haha... I heart WBB.

Guido
04-29-2010, 10:14 AM
The best part of this thread was seeing who all posted on here back then and wondering where 90% of them are now.

Coqui
04-29-2010, 10:43 AM
I'm 16 and i squat 410 right as a freshman in highschool it's not that hard you just got to work hard and no i am not on steroids that would be stupid because i play football

It would be more stupid because you're 16.

Coqui
04-29-2010, 10:44 AM
The best part of this thread was seeing who all posted on here back then and wondering where 90% of them are now.

I can safely say, back in 2002 I probably had a max squat of 275

rbtrout
04-29-2010, 12:46 PM
The first page - OK, but the last few, a waste to read.

2002 - my best was over 300. I do much better now......and I'm one due for the old folks home soon.

kwconch
04-29-2010, 01:18 PM
Riegler and kwconch... let's see some videos.

i will gladly get you a vid of it it is gonna be about six weeks though because i was warming up to lift monday and we were jump roping and i went to do run in place while jump roping and landed on my right foot sideways i tore a ligament and chipped the bone right now vikaden is my best friend =[

tnathletics2b
04-29-2010, 01:30 PM
i will gladly get you a vid of it it is gonna be about six weeks though because i was warming up to lift monday and we were jump roping and i went to do run in place while jump roping and landed on my right foot sideways i tore a ligament and chipped the bone right now vikaden is my best friend =[

:scratch:

Travis Bell
04-29-2010, 03:12 PM
i will gladly get you a vid of it it is gonna be about six weeks though because i was warming up to lift monday and we were jump roping and i went to do run in place while jump roping and landed on my right foot sideways i tore a ligament and chipped the bone right now vikaden is my best friend =[

*Vicoden :)

That sounds like quite a situation! You really tore a ligament jump roping?

I will say that your squat is not completely unreasonable, however what people are going to be looking for is that you take the weight down to at least parallel and maintain good form. I've trained a lot of kids who thought their squat was much larger than it actually was when we made them train right.

However I have seen some very strong 15 year olds so I suppose it is possible.

joey54
04-29-2010, 09:32 PM
Be careful with the vicodin.

kwconch
04-30-2010, 10:54 AM
yes i did tear a ligament jump roping i feel re---ded everytime i tell someone that, lol had to see a specialist, my form how ever is correct when i do squat one because we constantly have 7 coaches watching 20 people in the weight room and we work in groups of 2 so there is almost a coach per group they watch our form the second we do something wrong they call it and if we dont go parallel or below they dont count the rep for squatting, and dont worry i will be careful with that vicoden i take it as directed im not a druggy lol

alfa romeu
05-13-2010, 08:43 AM
people! look for this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbIi-yPOxsM

150kg for 5 reps... without any pause ...and not smith squat...without any supportive equippment...just impressive...the depth of the squat...!!!
i thought if there were something wrong with the plates or the bar...??? (you see ...those tales about plates weigghing different than is stated)!!...??

Steve Colescott
05-13-2010, 09:38 AM
I think a great way to gauge how hardcore a gym is would be to count if there are more people that can squat over 405 than there are people that can bench 315 and up. Squats and deadlifts are blue-collar work ethic lifts and gyms in which people do 90% of their training on chest and arms downright suck. There is no energy to inspire you on lower body training days and there is a traffic jam when you try to train upper body.

depotman
05-13-2010, 10:39 AM
I think a great way to gauge how hardcore a gym is would be to count if there are more people that can squat over 405 than there are people that can bench 315 and up. Squats and deadlifts are blue-collar work ethic lifts and gyms in which people do 90% of their training on chest and arms downright suck. There is no energy to inspire you on lower body training days and there is a traffic jam when you try to train upper body.

So true.

alfa romeu
05-13-2010, 11:21 AM
when you means people that can squat over 405, you means squatting on the smith machine?right?

Astreocclu
05-13-2010, 11:25 AM
No im pretty sure he doesnt.

BG5150
05-13-2010, 12:16 PM
I'm 16 and i squat 410 right as a freshman in highschool it's not that hard you just got to work hard and no i am not on steroids that would be stupid because i play football


m getting there im 15 and 180 lbs and i squat 385

quarter squats don't count.

Coqui
05-13-2010, 01:21 PM
I think a great way to gauge how hardcore a gym is would be to count if there are more people that can squat over 405 than there are people that can bench 315 and up. Squats and deadlifts are blue-collar work ethic lifts and gyms in which people do 90% of their training on chest and arms downright suck. There is no energy to inspire you on lower body training days and there is a traffic jam when you try to train upper body.

I think if you see more than 2 people deadlifting the same applies. I'm really the only deadlifter I ever see at my gym.