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Ck0
09-13-2005, 11:23 AM
This is been frustrating me for awhile, diet feels like it hit plateu.

I use to be 220 but that was last year and I made mistake by crash dieting and dropped to 160. College started went back up to 190, now I am sitting at 155.5 as of this morning. REALLY slow metabolism.

Here are some pictures uploaded on my photobucket acount please tell me if this is fat or loose skin its been bothering me thanks. Or any advice that can help me progress.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/xxceresxx/IMG_0471.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/xxceresxx/IMG_0472.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/xxceresxx/IMG_0473.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/xxceresxx/IMG_0474.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/xxceresxx/IMG_0475.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/xxceresxx/IMG_0479.jpg


Thanks everybody.

eRICH
09-13-2005, 11:29 AM
looks like loose skin to me. I have the same problem unfortunately. 240 down to 175.

getfit
09-13-2005, 11:30 AM
do you train at all?

ReelBigFish
09-13-2005, 11:32 AM
I also have the same prob. Can't figure out if it's fat or skin. I'm at 142 and was down from 152 trying to lose the flab at my stomach but it doesn't seem to go anywhere. I hope it's skin, but I'm just saying f*ck it for now and I'm bulking. I had an ED and lost too much weight like that after going on a normal diet. I'm just sick of being skinny and weak, and non muscular.

ReelBigFish
09-13-2005, 11:35 AM
by the way my highest weight was lik 205 and went down to 160 from Atkins and then over the course of 5 months as my ED got worse and got down to 95...its sick, I know. But even then you couldn't see my abs very well and have just this sagginess around my stomach.

Ck0
09-13-2005, 11:43 AM
yeah I train very hard and follow a very strict diet.

getfit
09-13-2005, 11:44 AM
how strict is your diet?

what do your meals consist of?

crazyaoshi
09-13-2005, 12:05 PM
I've lost 22kg in 6 months. I too have the same problem, I don't know if it's just fat I can't lose or loose skin. If it's loose skin, will it just tighten up eventually or do I just need to gain muscle to fill it out again?

I don't like having a "spare tire" around my waist at body fat 11.4%, I know a trainer at the gym who has a flat stomach at like 15% body fat, he's a swimmer.

mrwalken
09-13-2005, 12:09 PM
I don't like having a "spare tire" around my waist at body fat 11.4%, I know a trainer at the gym who has a flat stomach at like 15% body fat, he's a swimmer.

Your punishment for ever being fat. Sucks, I know. Continue cutting and hope for the best.

muscleup
09-13-2005, 12:25 PM
yeah I train very hard and follow a very strict diet.
Explain further.
Your explination of training hard and having a strict diet most likely will not be the same as gitfits. ;)

Ck0
09-13-2005, 06:02 PM
Diet - Cut:

Meal 1: Wake-up Meal

1.5 Scoop ON Whey [] 165 calories
1/2 Cup of Oatmeal [] 150 Calories

C:315 P:34g


Meal 2: PWO

2 Scoop ON Whey [] 220 Calories
1/2 Cup of Maltodextrin [] 190 Calories

C:410 P:46g


Meal 3: Post PWO

7 Egg Whites [] 115 Calories
1/2 Cup of Oatmeal [] 150 Calories

C:265 P:24g


Meal 4: Mid Afternoon

8oz Chicken Breast [] 250 calories

C:250 P:50g


Meal 5:

1 Cup Brown Rice [] 216 Calories
5oz Beef 93/7 [] 200 Calories

C:416 P:39g


Total Calories: 1656
Total Protein: 193g

YES, I have an incredibly slow metabolism. I think I was genetically borned to be fat. I use to have natural pb in my diet but I just cant fit it into my slow metabolism. Its atmost 1656 calories, most of it times around 1500 due to varying in serving.

Training: 3 day split

Wake up at 8am and sleep at 12am.

I currently cannot train legs and have a hard time training my back due to the equipment I have, but when I go back to school I'll have a full gym at my disposal.

What will help tighten up my stomach area? Would bigger lats help pull some of the skin back? Or more developed back muscles help much? I am only 18.

Unreal
09-13-2005, 06:18 PM
I've gone from near 300lbs to 200lbs and don't have any of that. My upper abs are filling in quiet nice, and just alittle flab/fat around my lower abs now. I think you need to start filling that with muscle.

FighterInSnatch
09-13-2005, 06:51 PM
I've gone from near 300lbs to 200lbs and don't have any of that. My upper abs are filling in quiet nice, and just alittle flab/fat around my lower abs now. I think you need to start filling that with muscle.
:withstupi

Shao-LiN
09-13-2005, 07:22 PM
Agree with Unreal. Looks like you don't have much lean mass on that frame, though you are looking pretty skinny with your abs just barely visible. I'd cut down to wherever you are comfortable, then start bulking...you'll fill out eventually.

CarlP
09-13-2005, 07:31 PM
Agree with Unreal. Looks like you don't have much lean mass on that frame, though you are looking pretty skinny with your abs just barely visible. I'd cut down to wherever you are comfortable, then start bulking...you'll fill out eventually.

Add some muscle and grow into your skin.

muscleup
09-13-2005, 08:08 PM
Add some muscle and grow into your skin.
:withstupi
That's the bottom line.

Ck0
09-13-2005, 09:26 PM
ok thanks for all the inspiration guys, I will continue my cut until the end of the month and start a long bulk. Thanks for all the input i appreciated

Unreal
09-14-2005, 03:06 AM
Bulk now. Cutting will be easier with more muscle. Thats what I finally realized. Its 2 in the morning, and I just had a protein shake and a cup of oats.

mrwalken
09-14-2005, 07:45 AM
Bulk now. Cutting will be easier with more muscle. Thats what I finally realized. Its 2 in the morning, and I just had a protein shake and a cup of oats.

This sounds good - I'm not convinced. Then again, I've been fairly stagnant with both lifts and trying to remove excess fat/skin for quite a while. And winter is coming up. I'm at 6' 176 now, think maybe i'll try to get up to 190 by the end of the winter, and then cut again, hopefully with more lbm to work with. Anybody have this strategy work?

Unreal
09-14-2005, 07:53 AM
Sounds like a good strategy, similar to what I'm doing. I went from 300 to 200. My end goal is 220-225@~10% BF. I'm sitting at ~200 @ ~12-13% BF. Now I could continue to cut down to 8-10%, get down to 190ish, but then I'm going to have to bulk right up afterwards. So my plan is to probably use two cycles. Bulk up to 230 then back down to 215ish, then up to 240ish then back down to 220-225 if all goes well. Never done a serious bulk, so not sure how much my waist line will degrade. Went from a 44 pants to now 34s are loose. Not sure what adding 20-30lbs while lifting heavy will do to the waist line, but I guess we'll see.

Side note, its 7 in the morning, at 1500 cals, 84g fat, 150 carbs, 150 protein. :)

wrestlemaniac
09-15-2005, 03:46 PM
Your punishment for ever being fat. Sucks, I know. Continue cutting and hope for the best.

I don't know about that one... I've heard and seen plenty of those infomercials where a real fat (sorry but how else can I describe them?) person gets really skinny and shows off his uber-cut abs on TV. Although I suspect some of that has been altered in some way the point is it's not uncommon.

ZDrax
09-16-2005, 07:13 PM
Nope, that's skin. Looks exactly like I do. I've been down to 7% bodyfat (dunk tank), but the skin calipers read my abdomen as 13%. That means excess skin. I'm getting the surgery to get rid of it this fall. I've found focusing on deadlifts and squats helped filled out my core. At a higher bodyweight, my midsection definitely looks more "cut" even if my waistline is larger. Low-carb diets will help get rid of excess water, and keep your waist looking trimmer. Best of luck!

Built
09-16-2005, 07:31 PM
Okay, you are kinda eating weird for a cut. I don't see any fat, and I see a LOT of carb.

You might consider switching this around. It might help your skin, and you'll certainly stimulate more test.

Your calories are VERY low.

What kind of rep range do you use in your split? And why don't you work legs or back at all? Please describe the equipment you have available.

For what it's worth, I carried all my weight in my legs, and it's taken FOREVER for the skin to snap back, but it's going, slowly.

It'll snap back faster for you because you're so young.

But get those fats up! You should be consuming around 0.5g/lb LBM, so I'd think you'd need at least 60-70g a day.

Protein is fine. Take the calories from the carbs - maybe a smidge from the protein if you need to. But you really do need your fats, ESPECIALLY when cutting.

ZDrax
09-16-2005, 10:02 PM
For what it's worth, I carried all my weight in my legs, and it's taken FOREVER for the skin to snap back, but it's going, slowly.


I, like this poster, have severe stretch marks along my midsection, around my back, and around my pectorals. I gained weight fairly rapidly and also last it very rapidly. Prior to weight lifting I was a long distance runner (5'7" 1/2 inches tall, and got down to 123lbs from 190 over a period of two or three months). I can't honestly believe the folds of excess skin are going to retract anytime soon. Did you have the same thing on your legs?

Shao-LiN
09-16-2005, 10:09 PM
I'm also curious as to why you don't train legs or back. I figure if you can work your chest, assuming you have some sort of weights, you can work your back. Instead of a pushing motion, you'll be pulling the weight.

Built
09-17-2005, 09:02 AM
ZDrax,

I lost the weight with diet and lifting, not running. Running catabolizes leg mass. Your legs might look better if you fill them in with some nice big quads and hammies.

The weight would drop, then the skin would tighten up. I went through periods of time where they would look WORSE before they looked better - it freaked me out at first, but then I got used to the alternating pattern. Skin seemed to lag 3-6 months after fat loss.

CanadianBad
09-17-2005, 06:52 PM
Carefiul with bulking dont want stretch marks. That isnt bad, gain 10lbs of muscle and that will fill in.