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AzBboy
09-19-2005, 12:08 PM
Supppp everyoneeee. So I recently been going from cutting to bulking. I was at 1900 cals, then increased to 2100. I waited 3 days, then increased to 2400. Once at 2400, I began my first week of bulk. I didn't expect much to happen, a lil baby could eat 2400 cals. I was just gonna eat 2400 for a week then increased to like 26-2700. But, I weighed in today, and I actually gained a pound and dropped .5 bodyfat. My question is, should I still increase anyways or see how long I can milk this 2400 cal gain thing? I was thinking at least going to 2500, just in case this was just luck, plus I have no problem stomaching much more food. It just seems odd that an ectomorph like me could make gain off such measly amount of cals. Any suggestions? Thank you everyone!

rookies
09-19-2005, 12:23 PM
I would give it another week at 2400 and see how ur body reacts, as they say "if it aint broken, dont fix it".

Since you just came off a cutting cycle, your metabolism might as well have gone down in the process, so now its on the way up again but slowly,that may explains how you still gain weight with rather low cal like 2400 for a man.

HILL
09-19-2005, 02:21 PM
it also depends how you want to bulk if your concerned with fat increase do it slowly increasing you cals slightly and only when you stop gaining weight. if you are not bothered as much about fat and want to bulk quicker bump them to 3000 then 3500. 2400 is low for a man as im currently cutting at 3000 cals and lost 3 pound the other week.

Unreal
09-19-2005, 03:40 PM
1lb is nothing. Could be water, could be anything.

AzBboy
09-19-2005, 04:41 PM
Yea I'm at a total state of confusion. When I think bulk, I think of all the cliches like ''eat till it hurts then eat more'' or ''go on a seefood diet.'' I'm actually HUNGRY between meals! I dono if I should just increase or stay, as for unreal ya 1 pound could be anything, but isn't the general rule of thumb 1 pound a week? So, given my situation, what would you guys do, increase or stay?

Jorge Sanchez
09-19-2005, 04:53 PM
Feeling hungry on a bulk eh? That would be a nice break. I'm gonna go with rookies though and say that it just because your metabolism is slowed down from your cut. What are your stats? 2400kcals seems really low.

TOBART
09-19-2005, 07:27 PM
That pound differerence and .5% drop in bodyfat has so many factors, I would just ignore it. Personally I would go to 3000 cals a day for a month. If you start putting on fat too fast, drop it down to 2800. If you're not putting on size with 3000, bump it up some. You say you're an ectomorph and if I remember correctly you are around 5'8 140, even 3000 cals seems really low. I'm a few pounds heavier and I need 5000 a day to make small size gains.

bigedge
09-19-2005, 08:08 PM
your stats would be helpful but, unless you're less than 160lbs u need more food, imo

AzBboy
09-19-2005, 08:46 PM
Ya sorry I forgot to leave stats, I'm 5'8 at 139 pounds. Fairly slim but believe it or not I'm not completely twig I do have a good foundation started, now time to REALLY make it come out. Ya so some of you sayin' metabolisem could be at a low due to comming off a cut, very good theory, also some sayin UP THOSE CALS, also very good theory. I dono which I should try, plz any more help is desperately needed, thanks everyone for your replys and suggestions.

bigedge
09-19-2005, 10:56 PM
it depends how quickly you want to bulk, if u want to pack on mass and you're not too worried about carrying some fat, use something like bodyweight * 20 = calories, if u want to do it a bit slower try 16 or 17 * bodyweight. I am 6'2 at about 215 and im working on 16 which is 3440 so i try to get 3500 cals a day. since its been a long time since i last did a good bulk im steadily adding at least a lb a week. but soon i will have to push it up to closer to 4000.
i think u could continue to gain on 2400 for a while (a fortnight, perhaps more) but then u will have to push it up to 3000+ eventually

Shao-LiN
09-19-2005, 11:20 PM
I would stay at those calories and see what happens.

AzBboy
09-20-2005, 01:04 AM
Alrite everyone, based on you replys, and thank you again, I've decided to get the best of both worlds: increase, but only by 100 cals. I'll stay low, see if I truly can make consecutive gains so low, at the same time the slight increase will at least keep me a lil less hungry between meals. You guys are all the bomb, and thank you once more.

Shao-LiN
09-20-2005, 01:20 AM
Considering your weight, the cals don't appear all that low to be honest. By estimation alone, you're around where you're supposed to be.

DannyboyXJ
09-20-2005, 09:23 AM
I'm your height and weigh around 140-145. I'm currently eating (I hope) around 4000 cals for my bulk. Eat almost ANYTHING; I eat whatever I want minus junk food, sweets, and little to no greasy foods.

Start buying 1% or 2% milk and drink it like water. Plus, get some natty peanut butter; these two are great little snacks when you feel like your lacking in calories.

Start eating a ton, when you notice your BF going up slightly, then you can adjust accordingly.

Don't be afraid to gain some BF; that's why people cut after bulking...

--Dan.

Max-Mex
09-20-2005, 01:02 PM
Supppp everyoneeee. So I recently been going from cutting to bulking. I was at 1900 cals, then increased to 2100. I waited 3 days, then increased to 2400. Once at 2400, I began my first week of bulk. I didn't expect much to happen, a lil baby could eat 2400 cals. I was just gonna eat 2400 for a week then increased to like 26-2700. But, I weighed in today, and I actually gained a pound and dropped .5 bodyfat. My question is, should I still increase anyways or see how long I can milk this 2400 cal gain thing? I was thinking at least going to 2500, just in case this was just luck, plus I have no problem stomaching much more food. It just seems odd that an ectomorph like me could make gain off such measly amount of cals. Any suggestions? Thank you everyone!


Just suck it up and boost to 3000-3500. Put some weight on boy!

AzBboy
09-20-2005, 11:33 PM
haha trust me mex, I aint scurrred to up them cals, but its quite unnecessary and potentially sabotaging. Imagine the fat gain of eating 3000 when all I need is 2500 to gain my weight for the week. Not to mention the duckets I'd save by stayin low while I can get away with it.

Shao-LiN
09-21-2005, 06:30 PM
I see no reason to up cals to higher levels if you're gaining perfectly fine on what you're doing now. When you stop gaining, then up it.

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
09-24-2005, 02:06 AM
I see no reason to up cals to higher levels if you're gaining perfectly fine on what you're doing now. When you stop gaining, then up it.That's pretty much it right there.

Built
09-24-2005, 02:09 AM
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Bingo!

thajeepster
09-24-2005, 08:38 AM
Supppp everyoneeee. So I recently been going from cutting to bulking. I was at 1900 cals, then increased to 2100. I waited 3 days, then increased to 2400. Once at 2400, I began my first week of bulk. I didn't expect much to happen, a lil baby could eat 2400 cals. I was just gonna eat 2400 for a week then increased to like 26-2700. But, I weighed in today, and I actually gained a pound and dropped .5 bodyfat. My question is, should I still increase anyways or see how long I can milk this 2400 cal gain thing? I was thinking at least going to 2500, just in case this was just luck, plus I have no problem stomaching much more food. It just seems odd that an ectomorph like me could make gain off such measly amount of cals. Any suggestions? Thank you everyone!

if your gaining off 2400 i highly doubt your an ectomorph... more likely meso, or around ecto/meso.