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Danpiel
09-26-2005, 10:43 PM
These Are Old Pix Look At The Last Page For Current Pictures Of Me. Just posted leg shots on the last page as requested by a few people.

diesel_dan
09-26-2005, 10:49 PM
dude u could be a model for acrombie and fitch or aeropostal lol.. looking lean. do you know what bf% your at? how about the back and wheelz? keep up the good work.

Canadian Crippler
09-26-2005, 10:50 PM
Why are your pics always so funny, haha.

Lookin good man, looks like you've put on a small amount of mass in the arms and chest. Eat more!

fixationdarknes
09-26-2005, 11:04 PM
Haha, nice pics. You're lean as hell! Eat more!!!!!!!!!!! Keep trying man, you'd look even better if you packed on some mass.

Gabrielle
09-26-2005, 11:16 PM
looking good nice gains and great job staying lean

Danpiel
09-26-2005, 11:37 PM
dude u could be a model for acrombie and fitch or aeropostal lol.. looking lean. do you know what bf% your at? how about the back and wheelz? keep up the good work.

probably in 8 to 9ish range.

Danpiel
09-26-2005, 11:37 PM
Why are your pics always so funny, haha.

Lookin good man, looks like you've put on a small amount of mass in the arms and chest. Eat more!


Eat more. I am already consuming more than 2500 cals a day.

Danpiel
09-26-2005, 11:38 PM
Haha, nice pics. You're lean as hell! Eat more!!!!!!!!!!! Keep trying man, you'd look even better if you packed on some mass.

The eating advice is not helping at all. I need some kind of different advise or suggestions. Anything.

Danpiel
09-26-2005, 11:38 PM
looking good nice gains and great job staying lean

Thanks alot.

Canadian Crippler
09-26-2005, 11:43 PM
Eat more. I am already consuming more than 2500 cals a day.I am consuming 6000 cals a day. And that's only putting on 1lb a week.

Eat more.

Danpiel
09-26-2005, 11:45 PM
I am consuming 6000 cals a day. And that's only putting on 1lb a week.

Eat more.


6000 your joking?

khari
09-27-2005, 12:33 AM
Eat more. I am already consuming more than 2500 cals a day.

Are you cutting or something? :windup:

Stackattack
09-27-2005, 12:39 AM
2500 cals is nothing.
As far as different advice goes, 'Eat more' is about the best advice you're going to get.
If you're not gaining weight, you need to eat more. Thats all there is to it.
Anyways, looking good. How are the wheels?

getfit
09-27-2005, 02:18 AM
Daniel, you look nice and lean, bulk up,eat more, you'll look incredible, you have an excellent base to work on.

Silverback
09-27-2005, 06:31 AM
Eat more. I am already consuming more than 2500 cals a day.

lmao! you've been quoted!

fixationdarknes
09-27-2005, 06:39 AM
Heh, I eat 3500 calories a day and I'm only about 158 lbs. Eat more. lol.

Btw, you look way leaner than 8-9% BF. I'd guesstimate no higher than 6%.

Miker
09-27-2005, 10:24 AM
I'm putting back around 4500-5000 calories a day.. and it has taken me ages to put 8 pounds on... FINALLY REACHED 200lbs!!

Danpiel
09-27-2005, 10:26 AM
Are you cutting or something? :windup:

Well trying to gain weight and still retain my body fat percentage.

Danpiel
09-27-2005, 10:27 AM
2500 cals is nothing.
As far as different advice goes, 'Eat more' is about the best advice you're going to get.
If you're not gaining weight, you need to eat more. Thats all there is to it.
Anyways, looking good. How are the wheels?

Yeah but what range in Calories?

Danpiel
09-27-2005, 10:28 AM
lmao! you've been quoted!


Danpiel = Newbie. I am glad I can make someone laugh always a pleasure.

Danpiel
09-27-2005, 10:46 AM
Daniel, you look nice and lean, bulk up,eat more, you'll look incredible, you have an excellent base to work on.



Thx.

Danpiel
09-27-2005, 10:48 AM
I'm putting back around 4500-5000 calories a day.. and it has taken me ages to put 8 pounds on... FINALLY REACHED 200lbs!!

How tall are you?

Anthony
09-27-2005, 10:49 AM
Yeah but what range in Calories?

Add 10-20% each week until you start gaining at the rate you want. You're very lean so you shouldn't be concerned about getting fat. If you notice yourself getting smooth, just bring the calories down a notch.

Danpiel
09-27-2005, 11:08 AM
Add 10-20% each week until you start gaining at the rate you want. You're very lean so you shouldn't be concerned about getting fat. If you notice yourself getting smooth, just bring the calories down a notch.

Thanks for the info.

HILL
09-27-2005, 12:33 PM
u am cutting on 3000 and loosing 2 pound a week id say stick them to 3000 then go from their

MM
09-27-2005, 02:40 PM
Yeah man, definitely eat more than 2500. I'm eating 3500-4000 and barely gaining weight while staying very lean. I'd suggest upping your calories to at least 3000 for a few weeks, and seeing how your body reacts.

MM
09-27-2005, 02:41 PM
I'd also suggest working out your legs with the same frequency that you work out your upperbody, since it appears that you currently do not.

Danpiel
09-27-2005, 02:52 PM
I work my legs twice a week. Plus I play lots fo soccer and basketball.

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
09-27-2005, 04:19 PM
Good gawd man! You're really cut up...lookin' good, bro.

Danpiel
09-28-2005, 09:40 PM
Good gawd man! You're really cut up...lookin' good, bro.

Thanks dude.

[[[----]]]
09-29-2005, 08:09 AM
Yeah, really cut! Damn! I wanted that quote!! haha, Anyways, EAT, EAT, EAT! Just split food up into smaller meals until you see weight gain. BTW, youre one of the only guys ive seen who can really pull the long hair thing off and look good. :thumbup:

Danpiel
09-30-2005, 12:39 PM
]]']Yeah, really cut! Damn! I wanted that quote!! haha, Anyways, EAT, EAT, EAT! Just split food up into smaller meals until you see weight gain. BTW, youre one of the only guys ive seen who can really pull the long hair thing off and look good. :thumbup:

Thanks dude.

settogain
10-02-2005, 10:48 AM
You look to be pretty tall, lots of space to fill up! You do need to eat at least 1,000 calories more of good clean food. Lots of protein and carbohydrates. If you play football and soccer on a regular basis, you're burning up a lot of calories. It is very difficult to pack on good muscle mass and do that much aerobic activity at the same time. You have a good "chasis" to pack on some quality muscle. Good luck!!!

Danpiel
10-02-2005, 01:39 PM
You look to be pretty tall, lots of space to fill up! You do need to eat at least 1,000 calories more of good clean food. Lots of protein and carbohydrates. If you play football and soccer on a regular basis, you're burning up a lot of calories. It is very difficult to pack on good muscle mass and do that much aerobic activity at the same time. You have a good "chasis" to pack on some quality muscle. Good luck!!!

So count down on my aerobic activity? I am 6'2 btw.

jammerz4life
10-02-2005, 04:39 PM
Eat more. I am already consuming more than 2500 cals a day.

bro im 6'4" 180 and i eat 4500 calories a day. If you looking to put more mass on try doing that.

Danpiel
10-02-2005, 05:49 PM
bro im 6'4" 180 and i eat 4500 calories a day. If you looking to put more mass on try doing that.


are you gaining weight?

jammerz4life
10-02-2005, 07:37 PM
yea i was 175 2 weeks ago

Danpiel
11-07-2005, 05:57 PM
Should I try a mass weight gainer by EAS and should I add Amino Acids to my supplements?

Bohizzle
11-07-2005, 09:25 PM
Should I try a mass weight gainer by EAS and should I add Amino Acids to my supplements?
If you can't eat any more food, then add a weight gainer, they are full of calories and are easy to consume.

Andrew

Danpiel
11-07-2005, 09:58 PM
If you can't eat any more food, then add a weight gainer, they are full of calories and are easy to consume.

Andrew


Yeah I am going to have to do that. So far I am at 185lb will post a pic soon.

smalls
11-07-2005, 10:50 PM
2500 cals is nothing.
As far as different advice goes, 'Eat more' is about the best advice you're going to get.
If you're not gaining weight, you need to eat more. Thats all there is to it.
Anyways, looking good. How are the wheels?

There is no better advice for you at this moment. Youve looked the same for quite some time now, which is fine. But you sound like you would rather weigh 190 so eat more unti you weigh 190.

Danpiel
11-08-2005, 08:21 AM
There is no better advice for you at this moment. Youve looked the same for quite some time now, which is fine. But you sound like you would rather weigh 190 so eat more unti you weigh 190.


At this point in my training career I actually want to be almost 200 but that is going to take a lot hard work.

hulkinout
11-08-2005, 05:05 PM
I like Cytogainer by Cytosport because it doesn't taste like glue and it's lactose-free, which keeps me from gettin stinky :-D

I was one of those people who never gained until I stuck in the weight gainers at like 3x a day, then sure enough, bodyweight took off.

Danpiel
11-08-2005, 05:10 PM
I am going to go with EAS MASS

current pic. Weight is 185lb.

Man do I look like a monkey in that picture. :offtopic:

twisteddendrite
11-10-2005, 02:09 PM
You have good definition but I have to agree with majority eat more.
Eating enough to put on mass is real hard for some people specially if they have a high metabolism.

Weed and gear might help.

Danpiel
11-10-2005, 02:12 PM
You have good definition but I have to agree with majority eat more.
Eating enough to put on mass is real hard for some people specially if they have a high metabolism.

Weed and gear might help.


Got the weed part but the gear but you lost me?

burban1725
11-10-2005, 02:15 PM
D@#m I am about the same height and you make me look like a doughboy. You are really cut. Nice work

97muscle
11-10-2005, 02:53 PM
you look awesome, kindof Tarzan like in that last pic, we are about the same body type, but I am only 6'0". Maybe we will reach 200 around the same time??
I have the problem of trying to gain weight and stay lean, it just doesn't work out that way, so I have started eating and not worrying about the leaness. I feel so much better in the gym, more food=more energy, it is great. Nice to meet you. Have a great day

Danpiel
11-10-2005, 03:52 PM
D@#m I am about the same height and you make me look like a doughboy. You are really cut. Nice work


Thx

dude. To really lean up all you have to do is cut the dairy products out of your diet no bread whats so ever and lot's of Cardio. At least that's what some books tell me.

Danpiel
11-10-2005, 03:53 PM
you look awesome, kindof Tarzan like in that last pic, we are about the same body type, but I am only 6'0". Maybe we will reach 200 around the same time??
I have the problem of trying to gain weight and stay lean, it just doesn't work out that way, so I have started eating and not worrying about the leaness. I feel so much better in the gym, more food=more energy, it is great. Nice to meet you. Have a great day

Thx dude.

I don't know about 200lb but 190 to 195 with 6%BF would rock.

Later.

97muscle
11-11-2005, 08:52 AM
Yeah I think that 200lbs is definitely obtainable, maybe not at 6% BF but I hope to get there. My father in law was a few lbs lighter than me when he was 24 and now he is 210, and he looks awesome, he could stand to drop some BF, but at 49 he looks great. He is still benching 350, could probably do more but that's all we have. Keep up the good work, you look great.

Stickler
11-16-2005, 12:41 AM
Dude you've definately improved a lot since you've started, good job man. Keep it up man, you'll get there...

Danpiel
01-04-2006, 06:12 PM
My meal plan for the long road to 200lb.

tell me what you think of it and what you would change? Or any hints or tips?

6:00 am Egg Whites and Oatmeal with Fat oil caps. = 700 cals

7:00 am workout Abs and 40 minute cardio.

8:45 Protein Drink with some kind of fruit Post work out. = 500 cals

10:45 Chicken Breast, Baked Potatoes and Fiber veggies. = 400 cals

12:45 Cytosport gainer and fat oil caps. = 700 cals.

2:45 Pre workout meal. Chicken, Turkey Breast, or Tuna and Baked potatoe or Cytosport gainer = 600 cals

going to gym at 3:45pm

5:00 Protein Drink with skim milk and fruit Post work out. = 400 cals

7:00 Chicken Breast, Baked Potatoes and Fiber veggies. = 400 cals

9:00 Cytosport gainer = 600 cals or Protein Drink with skim milk = 400 cals and fat oil caps

11:00 Cytosport gainer 700 cals and fat oil caps.




Total cal's 5000ish.

Around 450 grams of protein to be consumed on a daily basis I think this is a bit much for me being 185lb?

500 grams of Carbs to be consumed on a daily basis. Carbs are right on the money.

bill
01-04-2006, 06:23 PM
Cut out the cardio or cut back on it. Eat a cheesburger or 3 and a pizza. Atleast until you gain an a few pds then slower tigten the diet back up.

cphafner
01-04-2006, 08:32 PM
Diet looks good. Cytogainer is a bit expensive. As long as money isn't an issue, should be fine. I prefer Nlarge just because of cost. Nlarge does have more sugar, but us skinny kids shouldn't have much to worry about.

I don't see anything wrong with that high of protein. I eat about 400-420 a day. Just make sure to keep your water high.

KenT
01-06-2006, 02:58 PM
If you find your body composition is changing too much and you're not lean enough, move more of the carbs earlier in the day as the first step before considering reducing calories or increasing cardio. The extreme of this would be to finish your carbs by 6 pm or no later than 7 pm.

Danpiel
02-01-2006, 04:16 PM
Hey dudes.

Well whatever I am doing I am finally gaining weight. Today I weighted in at around 195lb with 11%bf.

Here are two pix.

BigRic
02-01-2006, 04:19 PM
Startin to look real good.

Canadian Crippler
02-01-2006, 04:57 PM
Looking bigger man.

I got a question though: Why do you just come on here and post pics for other guys to rate? It seems kinda weird.... I mean, if you made other posts in other sections it would be fine.

bill
02-01-2006, 04:59 PM
You ate the cheesburger and pizza correct. J/K doing real good.

Danpiel
02-01-2006, 05:01 PM
Looking bigger man.

I got a question though: Why do you just come on here and post pics for other guys to rate? It seems kinda weird.... I mean, if you made other posts in other sections it would be fine.

lol. why u jealous cause i am not showing you any attention? Huh Crippler?

Hehe all jokes aside. I posted plenty of times before but I rarely come on because I train and or work so I don't have alot time. Oh and I might add I don't want rates to sore higher for me I just want hints and tips on my overall progress? You know like a F one car needs to be tuned all the time.

Danpiel
02-01-2006, 05:04 PM
You ate the cheesburger and pizza correct. J/K doing real good.


lol dude I ate more than that. I don't know where to begin. My mom started to tell me that I eat like a pig.

Bohizzle
02-01-2006, 05:23 PM
BIG improvement man! i don't remember if this has been discussed before, but are u training legs at all? keep doing what ur doing!

Andrew

Danpiel
02-01-2006, 05:25 PM
BIG improvement man! i don't remember if this has been discussed before, but are u training legs at all? keep doing what ur doing!

Andrew


Right now I guess I am not really focusing to much on my legs.

Heres my routine which I copied of atlarge.

Monday

Bench Press: 2 Warm up sets 10 reps/2 sets x 5 reps TAKE 5 minz Rest.
Weighted Dips: 1 Warm up sets 10 reps/2 sets x 10 reps
Skull Crushers: 2 Warm up sets 10 reps/2 sets x 8 reps
Calf Raises: 1 Warm up sets 20 reps/2 sets x 20 reps
Full Squats: 2 Warm up sets 15 reps/3 sets x 10 reps Take a 5 minute rest between working sets.



Tuesday

T-bar Rows: 2 Warm up sets 10 reps/3 sets x 6 reps TAKE 5 MIN REST
Dumbbell Shoulder Presses: 2 Warm up sets 10 reps/2 sets x 6 reps Rest 5 minutes between working sets
Barbell Curls: 2 Warm up sets 10 reps/3 sets x 8 reps


Thursday

Bench Press: 2 Warm up sets 10 reps/2 sets x 8 reps TAKE 8 minz Rest
Incline Press: 2 Warm up sets 10 reps/2 sets x 8 reps
Skull Crushers: 2 Warm up sets 10 reps/2 sets x 8 reps
Deadlifts: 2 Warm up sets 7 reps/3 sets x 3 reps Rest 5 minutes between working sets
Calf Raises: 1 Warm up sets 10 reps/2 sets x 20 reps


Friday

Wide Grip Chins: 1 Warm up sets as many as possible/2 sets x as many as possible
Curl Grip Chins: 1 Warm up sets as many as possible/2 sets x as many as possible
Dumbbell Shoulder Presses: 2 Warm up sets 10 reps/2 sets x 8 reps Rest 5 minutes between working sets
Dumbbell Hammer Curls: 2 Warm up sets 10 reps/2 sets x 8 reps

Tofer
02-02-2006, 10:40 PM
I had never seen your pics before so I searched for your previous threads to get an idea of where you started.

Compared to a year ago, you look much better now. There's a huge difference there. Congrats on staying dedicated. I would still say try to gain at least 10 more pounds, but that's really up to you.

Anyways, you shouldn't have cut the hair man. I cut mine in October and I've been regretting it since. The phase of growing between short and long hair is killing me right now.

Built
02-02-2006, 10:45 PM
I do NOT know HOW the HELL I missed this.

You are absolutely GORGEOUS, and you're making excellent progress.

DAYUM!

BigMatt
02-02-2006, 10:45 PM
You must be pretty tall bro you dont look 195 to me...
Maybe 180 at the most...

Built
02-02-2006, 10:46 PM
Probably in his legs.

Usually it's the other way around when guys have skinny legs.

MM
02-03-2006, 12:12 AM
You must be pretty tall bro you dont look 195 to me...
Maybe 180 at the most...

He's 6'2" or so. Basically looks like me body-weight wise, I think. Sucks to be tall.

Shark
02-03-2006, 12:51 AM
You look excellent. You finally put on some weight and it made a serious difference.

getfit
02-03-2006, 01:58 AM
Hey dudes.

Well whatever I am doing I am finally gaining weight. Today I weighted in at around 195lb with 11%bf.

Here are two pix.
you've improved alot, much better, keep it up

Roark
02-03-2006, 05:08 AM
look bigger

hit those shoulders more

Silverback
02-03-2006, 05:27 AM
Awsome work dan!

Consistency is the key as always bodybuilding is no exception.

That routine is straight fire, no wonder your making great gains :) I wish my metabolism was that high, where you can gain mass and stay lean all while consuming that many cals lol

Keep it up fella :)

Danpiel
02-03-2006, 07:58 AM
I had never seen your pics before so I searched for your previous threads to get an idea of where you started.

Compared to a year ago, you look much better now. There's a huge difference there. Congrats on staying dedicated. I would still say try to gain at least 10 more pounds, but that's really up to you.

Anyways, you shouldn't have cut the hair man. I cut mine in October and I've been regretting it since. The phase of growing between short and long hair is killing me right now.

Thx dude.

Yeah the ten lb would be definitely do me good and that's exactly what I am going for. Hair is hair it will grow back. Later.


I do NOT know HOW the HELL I missed this.

You are absolutely GORGEOUS, and you're making excellent progress.

DAYUM!

Hehe yeah working by butt off.


You must be pretty tall bro you dont look 195 to me...
Maybe 180 at the most...

That's true my inner scan tells me that my muscle mass is around 166lb the rest must be fat,organs and water I assume.


He's 6'2" or so. Basically looks like me body-weight wise, I think. Sucks to be tall.


Can I see a pic?


You look excellent. You finally put on some weight and it made a serious difference.

Thanks dudes.


look bigger

hit those shoulders more

I think my shoulders are on par with what I want them to look like.


Awsome work dan!

Consistency is the key as always bodybuilding is no exception.

That routine is straight fire, no wonder your making great gains :) I wish my metabolism was that high, where you can gain mass and stay lean all while consuming that many cals lol

Keep it up fella :)


Thx alot.

MM
02-03-2006, 10:42 AM
Pics? Why? It was a compliment.

http://wannabebigforums.com/showpost.php?p=1238278&postcount=921

Danpiel
02-03-2006, 02:24 PM
Pics? Why? It was a compliment.

http://wannabebigforums.com/showpost.php?p=1238278&postcount=921


MM you look way better than me and I never took offense I was just curious.

eps
02-03-2006, 02:34 PM
I hope to be as lean as you when I finish cutting. Good progress

MM
02-03-2006, 04:18 PM
MM you look way better than me and I never took offense I was just curious.

I wouldn't say I look way better. Trust me, you're almost there. We're both tall guys with relatively weak looking chests; I think you'd see that our upper bodies are pretty similar looking if I had a shot just like yours.

p0tential
02-03-2006, 04:23 PM
I hope I can get up to that weight and be that lean, but I doubt it.
Looking good

Danpiel
03-21-2006, 10:41 PM
I need to be very low bf for this job I got. I weigh 190 with 12%BF in my last to pix I posted just now. I am basically going to cut cut cut now. I was woundering does doing cardio and abs work outs in morning really burn the most fat? Should I try fat burners and which work best? Also how much cals should I reduce at this point? I need to hit a very low BF percent by July. Any help will be mucho appreciated.

Stackattack
03-21-2006, 10:47 PM
Read some of Builts posts in the diet/nutrition section and you'll learn all you need to know about cutting.
Also, due to the fact there is no such thing as spot reduction, these ab workouts you speak of won't do s#!t as far as reducing abdominal fat goes.
Looking good though.

eps
03-21-2006, 10:50 PM
Considering how lean you are I would just do a traditional cut. Drop your overall calories by ~10% for a week until you start to lose weight. Keep the protein and fats high enough and start dropping off carbs little by little. I don't think cardio in the morning is necessary ... do HIIT in the afternoon when your cortisol levels aren't as high. Keeping doing direct ab work while lifting heavy and you should be good to go. Check out some stickies on the form on how to cut

Danpiel
03-21-2006, 10:52 PM
Read some of Builts posts in the diet/nutrition section and you'll learn all you need to know about cutting.
Also, due to the fact there is no such thing as spot reduction, these ab workouts you speak of won't do s#!t as far as reducing abdominal fat goes.
Looking good though.


So what does work for abdominal fat loss?

eps
03-21-2006, 10:57 PM
Overall body fat loss (which is how our body works) eventually leads to abdominal fat loss

Danpiel
03-21-2006, 11:03 PM
Btw what does HIIT stand for?

Clifford Gillmore
03-21-2006, 11:04 PM
High intensity interval training from memory. Looking great Dan!

Danpiel
03-21-2006, 11:06 PM
High intensity interval training from memory. Looking great Dan!

Thanks risk. High intensity interval training huh? Now in english please?

Nosaj
03-22-2006, 12:32 AM
Translation: Sprinting, not jogging.

Canadian Crippler
03-22-2006, 07:01 AM
Translation: Intervals of sprinting and jogging.

TwiloMike
03-22-2006, 07:10 AM
Have not posted in a while. Still have difficulty reaching 190lb plus pounds. No matter what I try I cannot go higher than 180ish. Any way check out the pix.
Goldielocks, I know it's against PrettyBoy Rules to gorge yourself on food, but if you want to reach 190 you've got to start eating like a bodybuilder!!!

Aisde from that, nice pics, great leanness, and fabulous hair! :)

Danpiel
03-22-2006, 08:52 AM
Goldielocks, I know it's against PrettyBoy Rules to gorge yourself on food, but if you want to reach 190 you've got to start eating like a bodybuilder!!!

Aisde from that, nice pics, great leanness, and fabulous hair! :)


:thumbup: Twilo please check the last page next time.

TwiloMike
03-22-2006, 09:13 AM
:bang: :bang: Me so stoopid! ARRGGGGGHHHHHH


I need to be very low bf for this job I got. I weigh 190 with 12%BF in my last to pix I posted just now. I am basically going to cut cut cut now. I was woundering does doing cardio and abs work outs in morning really burn the most fat?
Are you modeling? I think common knowledge around here is to do your cardio after you workout, if any, and to cut primarily through diet. If you want to maintain the most of your gains keep your protein intake high, even higher than you did for bulking. I personally recommend Nitrean (click the At Large Nutrition linky)- the shake, with milk, is more filling than you would expect, so you can reduce the # of meals you have throughout the day. Good luck with that!


Should I try fat burners and which work best? Also how much cals should I reduce at this point? I need to hit a very low BF percent by July. Any help will be mucho appreciated.
Hmm... some of the shows are in July. Makes sense. You should be able to cut down with diet and lifting heavy by then. I doubt that you will need pill help for it, actually.

Btw, good development, especially your back, and your hair looks much better. :)

Danpiel
03-22-2006, 09:22 AM
:bang: :bang: Me so stoopid! ARRGGGGGHHHHHH


Are you modeling? I think common knowledge around here is to do your cardio after you workout, if any, and to cut primarily through diet. If you want to maintain the most of your gains keep your protein intake high, even higher than you did for bulking. I personally recommend Nitrean (click the At Large Nutrition linky)- the shake, with milk, is more filling than you would expect, so you can reduce the # of meals you have throughout the day. Good luck with that!


Hmm... some of the shows are in July. Makes sense. You should be able to cut down with diet and lifting heavy by then. I doubt that you will need pill help for it, actually.

Btw, good development, especially your back, and your hair looks much better. :)

Yeah I am actually satisfied with what my body looks like. Not to big and not to small. Thanks for the help Twilo.

method115
03-23-2006, 02:29 PM
Yea your are a lean as hell thiers no way you can be bulking properly cause your stomach in though pictures would be bulging out. Anyways thats how my stomach is when i bulk.

Danpiel
03-23-2006, 03:19 PM
Yea your are a lean as hell thiers no way you can be bulking properly cause your stomach in though pictures would be bulging out. Anyways thats how my stomach is when i bulk.

Well I never been at 12% bf in life. So I think my 2 month bulk worked well for me. Who knows I might gain a bit more LBM over the coming months.

SThirteenTurbo
03-27-2006, 12:24 PM
hey danpiel you said on my thread that you were gonna see if you could push up the 110s... so did you?? im curious to find out...

Danpiel
03-27-2006, 03:04 PM
I will try today.

MJS
03-28-2006, 08:35 AM
Yeah you have to eat more. I get the same criticism to eat more and I already eat nearly 5k a day.

If you lift you wont get fat dont worry.. just make sure you know what you are eating and make it healthy.

deeder
03-28-2006, 10:19 AM
Well I never been at 12% bf in life. So I think my 2 month bulk worked well for me. Who knows I might gain a bit more LBM over the coming months.

Didn't you say near the beginning of this post that you were 8 or 9% bf? That means you weant up 3 or 4% bf in 2 months?

ederon
03-28-2006, 11:08 AM
Hopefull I can help you out DanielP
first off i was in a similar position as you. I started off slim, had abs, but wanted them more defined, and to add some muscle heres my transformation.

From the first picture toward the last picture i had a two step process. The main things i changed in my workouts, were cardio(what time of day, for how long, type of machines, intensity) also my diet had changed in a two step manner as well. if your interested in hearing it in detail dont hesitate to message me. Otherwise good luck with your cut!

Danpiel
03-28-2006, 11:23 AM
Didn't you say near the beginning of this post that you were 8 or 9% bf? That means you weant up 3 or 4% bf in 2 months?

and?

Danpiel
03-28-2006, 11:41 AM
Hopefull I can help you out DanielP
first off i was in a similar position as you. I started off slim, had abs, but wanted them more defined, and to add some muscle heres my transformation.

From the first picture toward the last picture i had a two step process. The main things i changed in my workouts, were cardio(what time of day, for how long, type of machines, intensity) also my diet had changed in a two step manner as well. if your interested in hearing it in detail dont hesitate to message me. Otherwise good luck with your cut!


Thx but I already got all the help I can need.

Bruin
03-31-2006, 11:22 AM
You're obviously doing the right things w/your routine (weights & diet). Don't fall into the trap of consuming masses of protein drinks to "bulk up" as others would suggest, unless you can't wait to loose all the definition you've worked hard to achieve. Take your gains slow & realize that nothing of strength & honor comes over night.

Danpiel
03-31-2006, 11:42 AM
I usually take in 3 protein shakes a day any way. 1 after a work with a fast carb type of fruit. I am curious why you said not to consume masses of protein? Any logical reason besides getting fat?

MM
03-31-2006, 12:19 PM
I usually take in 3 protein shakes a day any way. 1 after a work with a fast carb type of fruit. I am curious why you said not to consume masses of protein? Any logical reason besides getting fat?

Getting fat isn't even logical, since the consumption of protein (especially the lean protein that is used for shakes) isn't going to lead to fat gain.

JSully
03-31-2006, 04:46 PM
Getting fat isn't even logical, since the consumption of protein (especially the lean protein that is used for shakes) isn't going to lead to fat gain.
You can still get fat by taking in too much protein. If you're taking in 2500 cals of strictly protein, plus 500 cals of fat making a total of 3000 cals. And your body only burns 2000 cals/day. Thats an excess of 1000 cals. There's storage. Storage = fat gain. Not ALL protein is used for muscle.

MM
03-31-2006, 04:49 PM
You can still get fat by taking in too much protein. If you're taking in 2500 cals of strictly protein, plus 500 cals of fat making a total of 3000 cals. And your body only burns 2000 cals/day. Thats an excess of 1000 cals. There's storage. Storage = fat gain. Not ALL protein is used for muscle.

Okay, right, but what I'm saying is that there's no reason to single out protein as a fat building source. Of course calories in excess of burned calories can likely lead to fat gain -- regardless of where those excess calories are coming from -- but I wouldn't suggest that a lean, hardgainer such and Dan stop taking in three shakes a day.

Danpiel
03-31-2006, 06:05 PM
What the hell is a hardgrainer?

briancurran01
03-31-2006, 06:09 PM
HARDGAINER someone that has trouble gaining muslce because of a fast metabolism

MM
03-31-2006, 06:11 PM
What the hell is a hardgrainer?

I have no idea.

Danpiel
03-31-2006, 06:14 PM
oh that's bull****. I am definitely not a hardgrainer. If I really wanted to be huge I would do it with proper dieting,weighting training and some gear just like any other pro body0builder. I am not interested in that. I reached my 190 lb mark and I am very happy.

Danpiel
03-31-2006, 06:21 PM
You can still get fat by taking in too much protein. If you're taking in 2500 cals of strictly protein, plus 500 cals of fat making a total of 3000 cals. And your body only burns 2000 cals/day. Thats an excess of 1000 cals. There's storage. Storage = fat gain. Not ALL protein is used for muscle.

True but throw in a weight trainging an hour a day plus cardio of some sort in the morning with ab work and your burning so much more cals. There for you need to eat more food including protein right?

MM
03-31-2006, 06:26 PM
oh that's bull****. I am definitely not a hardgrainer. If I really wanted to be huge I would do it with proper dieting,weighting training and some gear just like any other pro body0builder. I am not interested in that. I reached my 190 lb mark and I am very happy.

Eh what? This a quote from you:

"Still have difficulty reaching 190lb plus pounds. No matter what I try I cannot go higher than 180ish."

Sounds very much so like a hardgainer (gainer, gainer, gainer).

And it doesn't have to do with being "huge", it has to do with being naturally lean and having a hard time putting on weight.

Danpiel
03-31-2006, 06:28 PM
that's because I was misinformed now how to gain weight the correct way.

briancurran01
03-31-2006, 08:35 PM
and someone like you, would have no business taking gear. It is apparent that you are still learning this stuff. And you are FAR from a professional bodybuilder.

Danpiel
03-31-2006, 08:45 PM
:) My spidy sense tells me your dead on. I wish I really had interest in being a pro bodybuilder but sadly I don't. I just want to stay healthy and in shape. Honestly the dudes that work there butts of doing pro bodybuilding work. My hat goes of to them.

SThirteenTurbo
04-01-2006, 02:22 AM
so dan lol i eagerly await your response..... could you push it up???

Danpiel
04-01-2006, 09:09 AM
no not yet,

SThirteenTurbo
04-01-2006, 06:12 PM
what did you get up to?? because DBs are a totally different animal then barbell... it took me 2 months to get past 80-95lb range... im sure if you work at it you'd hit 110s in no time... youre bigger then i am so you have more potential to lift heavier...

Danpiel
04-04-2006, 09:39 PM
I was able to push 110's five times with some help from my training partner.

SThirteenTurbo
04-05-2006, 05:02 AM
good job another week and a half of that and you'll be pushing up the 110s unassisted...

BigMatt
04-10-2006, 10:27 PM
oh that's bull****. I am definitely not a hardgrainer. If I really wanted to be huge I would do it with proper dieting,weighting training and some gear just like any other pro body0builder. I am not interested in that. I reached my 190 lb mark and I am very happy.

Get your head out of your ass.

What make you thinks you can?

Danpiel
04-11-2006, 07:51 AM
Get your head out of your ass.

What make you thinks you can?

I am sorry but your question is hard to answer so I just won't answer it.

ambigmustcut
04-11-2006, 07:06 PM
Danpiel, I'm more curious what kinda tail a physique like your nets. probably higher caliber than the thor/wildabeast thing.

Post pics!!!

Danpiel
04-11-2006, 07:11 PM
Danpiel, I'm more curious what kinda tail a physique like your nets. probably higher caliber than the thor/wildabeast thing.

Post pics!!!

and who is thor and wildabeast?

ambigmustcut
04-12-2006, 03:54 PM
Thor: Anyone with excessively inflammed muscle tissue with body fat >15%. I don't think they populate this board in any number, but take any juicer for example.

POST PICTURES! I need a comparison!

Danpiel
04-12-2006, 04:00 PM
Thor: Anyone with excessively inflammed muscle tissue with body fat >15%. I don't think they populate this board in any number, but take any juicer for example.

POST PICTURES! I need a comparison!


So are you complimenting my physique or are you saying otherwise? Why do you want to compare my pix to juicers?

KarateBoy
04-12-2006, 04:15 PM
So are you complimenting my physique or are you saying otherwise? Why do you want to compare my pix to juicers?

I'm pretty sure he's complementing you on your physique. He's saying that it probably impressees females more then just the bulky dudes.

Basically, how do you do with women?

Danpiel
04-12-2006, 04:19 PM
I'm pretty sure he's complementing you on your physique. He's saying that it probably impressees females more then just the bulky dudes.

Basically, how do you do with women?

I have a great looking girlfriend but thats not because I went to gym. Girls from my experience like personality the most.

Bohizzle
04-12-2006, 04:24 PM
Thor: Anyone with excessively inflammed muscle tissue with body fat >15%. I don't think they populate this board in any number, but take any juicer for example.

POST PICTURES! I need a comparison!
excessively inflammed muscle tissue? lol are u ******ed? u come to a site called wanna be big and start attacking people who attain what the site is named after? is there seriously something wrong with u?

Note to other members: i realize that this site isn't only for those that want to be big, but when a person with no posts comes on and starts attacking those that choose to get large, they need to be talked to.

And lastly to the OP: still lookin good man, keep up the hard work and u'll lose the last 2 or so % that u want to.

Andrew

Danpiel
04-12-2006, 04:27 PM
excessively inflammed muscle tissue? lol are u ******ed? u come to a site called wanna be big and start attacking people who attain what the site is named after? is there seriously something wrong with u?

Note to other members: i realize that this site isn't only for those that want to be big, but when a person with no posts comes on and starts attacking those that choose to get large, they need to be talked to.

And lastly to the OP: still lookin good man, keep up the hard work and u'll lose the last 2 or so % that u want to.

Andrew


To each is own. That's the best way I can put it.

Narcissus
04-12-2006, 04:28 PM
Girls from my experience like personality the most.

in my opinion, and from my experience growing up in miami and living in LA now, the hottest girls don't like looks the most ... they don't like personality the most, or sense of humor, or any of those other utopian things ... the hottest girls (tend to) like money the most.

Danpiel
04-12-2006, 04:39 PM
in my opinion, and from my experience growing up in miami and living in LA now, the hottest girls don't like looks the most ... they don't like personality the most, or sense of humor, or any of those other utopian things ... the hottest girls (tend to) like money the most.

not here in NYC. I do agree with you I had trouble getting laid in Florida though.

Narcissus
04-12-2006, 04:41 PM
not here in NYC. I do agree with you I had trouble getting laid in Florida though.

oh, there is no trouble whatsoever in that department. there are a plethora of ridiculous women in south florida, plenty more than there are rich men to take advantage of them. i am just pointing out that from my observations, wealth (nearly) always trumps everything else.

Danpiel
04-12-2006, 04:45 PM
oh, there is no trouble whatsoever in that department. there are a plethora of ridiculous women in south florida, plenty more than there are rich men to take advantage of them. i am just pointing out that from my observations, wealth (nearly) always trumps everything else.

What's funny was I was in a club in south FL and I was talking to this hot pretty thing blonde big tits etc. The minute I mentioned I am from NYC she turned away and than walked away. I did eventually score with a decent looking girl but definitely not hot.

KarateBoy
04-12-2006, 04:57 PM
I have a great looking girlfriend but thats not because I went to gym. Girls from my experience like personality the most.


Thats mostly true.

Body just makes it a little easier or atleast makes it easier to approach girls.

Most girls won't bang a gorgeous *******:windup:

Danpiel
04-12-2006, 05:02 PM
**** I am just gonna get really fat and rich. Shagg all the hot women I want. Just the hard part will be getting rich.

dw06wu
04-12-2006, 05:24 PM
**** you guys that can eat 5k a day and not gain weight

Danpiel
04-12-2006, 05:48 PM
lol chill dude.

KarateBoy
04-12-2006, 05:52 PM
**** you guys that can eat 5k a day and not gain weight

Its even worse then that

5000 a day and we can't gain weight:whiner:

Danpiel
04-12-2006, 06:11 PM
I gained weight but I do cannot get any bigger at this point thats why I stopped eating so much cals.

KarateBoy
04-12-2006, 06:20 PM
If I read correctly, you're doing a cut right now?

Where are you at the moment? 12%?

Goal?

Danpiel
04-12-2006, 06:24 PM
If I read correctly, you're doing a cut right now?

Where are you at the moment? 12%?

Goal?


the last set of pix is me at 12% Goal is to get back to my normal 8 to 9% and staying at my weight of 185 to 190.

Clifford Gillmore
04-13-2006, 05:46 AM
**** you guys that can eat 5k a day and not gain weight

They always lie :)

Danpiel
05-23-2006, 05:21 PM
Well I was able to cut down to 9 to 10 percent bodyfat. My current weight is 180 to 185lb. At this point I am going to try to work my way up to 195 over the summer. changing my routine totally. I read some books about gaining size and maintaining leaness. Got some useful info into hypertrophy meaning using moderate weight,moderate reps high sets and resting for 1 to 2 minz. Also have a question. What are the pro's and con's of training two body groups per day as to training only one body group a day? Also posting current pix of myself.


Thanks.

Built
05-23-2006, 06:33 PM
Well, I usually train in a functional way - horizontal pushing and pulling for example - or in a way that pairs a large muscle group with a small one (for example, quads with biceps).

So far, so good.

By the way, you are just WAAAAAY too good looking.

Antonious
05-23-2006, 06:57 PM
Nice cut danpiel, looking great and lean - I can understand the fact that you want to stay lean while gainin muscle, fat sucks.

Danpiel
05-23-2006, 06:59 PM
Well, I usually train in a functional way - horizontal pushing and pulling for example - or in a way that pairs a large muscle group with a small one (for example, quads with biceps).

So far, so good.

By the way, you are just WAAAAAY too good looking.

Joga Bonito Built.

This is my routine that I am corrently training on.

mon=chest/back/abs
tues=bi/tri/shoulders
wed=legs/abs
thur=chest/back/abs
fri=bi/tri/shoulders
sat=legs/abs
sun=rest

Built
05-23-2006, 07:11 PM
I see no particular problem.

Do you periodize at all?

Danpiel
05-23-2006, 07:13 PM
I see no particular problem.

Do you periodize at all?

Periodize? Not sure exactly what that means. Well I have an idea but just want to make sure.

Built
05-23-2006, 07:39 PM
http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=70496&highlight=undulating+periodization

Danpiel
05-23-2006, 07:49 PM
http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=70496&highlight=undulating+periodization

So this is like cycling?

Danpiel
05-23-2006, 08:46 PM
http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=70496&highlight=undulating+periodization


Built what you think of this routine?

Weeks 1-4

Week 1 - Active Rest
Monday/Thursday:
Modified Compound Superset:
(Rest 1 minute after the 1st set of exercise 1 and then do the first set of exercise 2. Then rest a minute and go back to exercise 1. Continue this pattern until both exercises are done for the prescribed amount of sets).
Incline Dumbbell Bench Press 2 sets x 10 reps (1 minute rest)
One Arm Dumbbell Rows 2 sets x 10 reps (1 minute rest)

Modified Compound Superset:
Dumbbell Bench Press 2 sets x 10 reps (1 minute rest)
Pulldown to Front 2 sets x 10 reps (1 minute rest)

Modified Compound Superset:
Bent Over Lateral Raises 2 sets x 10 reps (1 minute rest)
Dumbbell Shoulder Press 2 sets x 10 reps (1 minute rest)

Modified Compound Superset:
Incline Dumbbell Curls 3 sets x 10 reps (1 minute rest)
Overhead Dumbbell Triceps Extensions 3 sets x 10 reps (1 minute rest)

Modified Compound Superset:
Dumbbell Lunges 3 sets x 10 reps (1 minute rest)
Leg Curls 3 sets x 10 reps (1 minute rest)

Modified Compound Superset:
Squats 2 sets x 10 reps (2 minute rest)
Calf Raise 3 sets x 10 reps (2 minute rest)


Weeks 2, 3, & 4 - Loading Phase
Notes: If unable to train 6 days a week, then perform Day 1 on Monday, Day 2 on Wednesday and Day 3 on Friday.

Day 1 - Shoulders & Arms (Monday/Thursday):
Superset:
Dumbbell Shoulder Press 4 sets x 10-12 reps (30 second rest)
Bent Over Laterals 4 sets x 10-12 reps (30 second rest)

Superset:
Dumbbell Curls 4 sets x 10-12 reps (No rest)
Lying Dumbbell Triceps Extensions 4 sets x 10-12 reps (1 minute rest)

Superset:
Incline Curls 4 sets x 10-12 reps (No rest)
Overhead Dumbbell Triceps Extensions 4 sets x 10-12 reps (1 minute rest)

Superset:
Wrist Curls 3 sets x 15-30 reps (No rest)
Reverse Wrist Curls 3 sets x 15-30 reps (No rest)

On Week 3, add:
Superset:
Bent Over Laterals 3 sets x 10-12 reps (No rest)
Concentration Curls 3 sets x 10-12 reps (No rest)
Triceps Pushdowns 3 sets x 10-12 reps (1 minute rest)

On Week 4, add:
Superset:
Lateral Raises 3 sets x 10-12 reps (No rest)
Hammer Curls 3 sets x 10-12 reps (No rest)
Triceps Dips 3 sets x 10-12 reps (1 minute rest)


Day 2 - Legs (Tuesday/Friday)
Superset:
Squats 4 sets x 10-12 reps (No rest)
Lying Leg Curls 4 sets x 10-12 reps (1 minute rest)

Superset:
Wide Stance Squats 4 sets x 10-12 reps (No rest)
Standing Leg Curls 4 sets x 10-12 reps (1 minute rest)

Superset:
Adductor Machine 3 sets x12-15 reps (No rest)
Abductor Machine 3 sets x12-15 reps (No rest)

Superset:
Standing Calf Raises 4 sets x 10-12 reps (30 second rest)
Seated Calf Raises 4 sets x 15-20 reps (30 second rest)

On Week 3, add:
Superset:
Leg Extensions 3 sets x 10-12 reps (No rest)
Seated Leg Curls 3 sets x 10-12 reps (No rest)
One Legged Calf Raises with Dumbbells 3 sets x 15-20 reps (1 minute rest)

On Week 4, add:
Superset:
Leg Press 3 sets x 10-12 reps (No rest)
Dumbbell Stiff Legged Dead lifts 3 sets x 10-12 reps (No rest)
Calf Press (on Leg Press Machine) 3 sets x 15-20 reps (1 minute rest)

Day 3 - Chest & Back (Wednesday/Saturday)
Superset:
Incline Dumbbell Bench Press 4 sets x 10-12 reps (No rest)
Wide Grip Pull-up to Front (Palms facing away from you) 4 sets x 10-12 reps (1 minute rest)

Superset:
Chest Dips 4 sets x 10-12 reps (No rest)
Close Grip Pull-up (Palms facing you) 4 sets x 10-12 reps (1 minute rest)

Superset:
Dumbbell Shrugs 3 sets x 10-12 reps
External Rotations (for strengthening of the rotator cuff) 3 sets x 15-20 reps

Superset:
Leg Raises 4 sets x 25 reps (30 second rest)
Crunches 4 sets x 25 reps (30 second rest)

On Week 3, add:

Superset:
One Arm Rows 3 sets x 10-12 reps (No rest)
Dumbbell Bench Press 3 sets x 10-12 reps (No rest)
Knee-Ins 3 sets x 25 reps (1 minute rest)

On Week 4, add:
Superset:
Stiff Arm Pulldowns 3 sets x 10-12 reps (No rest)
Incline Flyes 3 sets x 10-12 reps (No rest)
Side Crunches 3 sets x 25 reps (1 minute rest)



Stimulate New Gains in Lean Muscle Mass, Size and Strength Plus Lose Bodyfat
Weeks 5, 6, & 7 - Growth Phase

Day 1 - Shoulders & Arms (Monday/Thursday)

Modified Compound Superset:
Military Press 4 sets x 10, 8, 6, 6 reps (90 second rest)
Rear Delt Rows (Performed on T-Bar Row Machine, elbows and upper arms away from torso in order to primarily stimulate the Rear Delts and not the Lats) 4 sets x 10, 8, 6, 6 reps (90 second rest)

Modified Compound Superset:
E-Z Curls 4 sets x 10, 8, 6, 6 reps (90 second rest)
Lying E-Z Triceps Extensions 4 sets x 10, 8, 6, 6 reps (90 second rest)

Modified Compound Superset:
E-Z Preacher Curls 4 sets x 10, 8, 6, 6 reps (90 second rest)
Triceps Dips 4 sets x 10, 8, 6, 6 reps (90 second rest)

Superset:
Wrist Curls 2 sets x 15-30 reps (No rest)
Reverse Wrist Curls 2 sets x 15-30 reps (No rest)

Day 2 - Legs (Tuesday/Friday)

Modified Compound Superset:
Squats 4 sets x 10, 8, 6, 6 reps (90 second rest)
Lying Leg Curls 4 sets x 10, 8, 6, 6 reps (90 second rest)

Modified Compound Superset:
Wide Stance Squats 4 sets x 10, 8, 6, 6 reps (90 second rest)
Standing Leg Curls 4 sets x 10, 8, 6, 6 reps (90 second rest)

Superset:
Adductor Machine 2 sets x 12-15 reps (No rest)
Abductor Machine 2 sets x 12-15 reps (No rest)

Superset:
Calf Press 4 sets x 8-10 reps (No rest)
Seated Calf Raises 4 sets x 15-20 reps (30 second rest)

Day 3 - Chest & Back (Wednesday/Saturday)

Modified Compound Superset:
Incline Barbell Bench Press 4 sets x 10, 8, 6, 6 reps (90 second rest)
Wide Grip Pull-up to Front (Palms facing away from you) 4 sets x 10, 8, 6, 6 reps (90 second rest)

Modified Compound Superset:
Chest Dips 4 sets x 10, 8, 6, 6 reps (90 second rest)
Close Grip Pull-up (Palms facing you) 4 sets x 10, 8, 6, 6 reps (90 second rest)

Superset:
Dumbbell Shrugs 2 sets x 10-12 reps (No Rest)
External Rotations (for strengthening of the rotator cuff) 2 sets x 15-20 reps (No Rest)

Superset:
Hanging Leg Raises 4 sets x 25 reps (No Rest)
Crunches (performed on Decline Bench) 4 sets x 25 reps (30 second rest)

NOTES:

Do cardio for twenty to thirty minutes right after the workout (or first thing in the morning on an empty stomach if you wish to train twice a day) for four times a week.
Regarding the issue of reaching muscle failure or not in all sets, the best advice that I can give you is to perform each set to the point where it would be impossible for you to perform an additional repetition on your own with good form. This philosophy has always kept me injury free and allowed me to train by myself for years without any accidents.
After finishing up the last week of the growth phase, go back to an active recovery phase for a week and re-start the loading phase with different exercises. Training in this manner will keep the body off guard and will continue to stimulate gains in muscle size.

HelloEvo
05-23-2006, 10:11 PM
Looking good man, keep it up. If you put on 10-20 pounds overall you'll look like a monster without a shirt on, even with a shirt on. heh.

Danpiel
07-14-2006, 05:28 PM
Man I am finally back at 190plus pounds with a bf% of 10. I am woundering what are the effects I will suffer if I stop using creatine in my diet and just consume lean cuts of meats, and whey protein etc. I need to lean up fast for work in sept. Here are some current pix.

KingWilder
07-14-2006, 06:48 PM
looking nice and lean man

method115
07-14-2006, 08:04 PM
Looking good man your chest looks so small though compared to the rest of your body, that your weak point?

Danpiel
07-14-2006, 08:47 PM
Looking good man your chest looks so small though compared to the rest of your body, that your weak point?


Hmm your right about the chest. I am going to try to bring it up a little. Hope it works.

TwiloMike
07-14-2006, 09:26 PM
You'll prolly retain less water sans creatine so that should help you drop down a bit for your September work. I hadn't creatined in a long time and I don't miss it at all- between whey and a clean diet I'm progressing well. Best of luck to ya!

KenT
07-17-2006, 09:17 AM
Agree with the comment and your response to work on chest.

However, the men in modeling that I know here in L.A. focus on upper pec and the outer sweep of the lower pec, and try to avoid getting the lower pec really thick.

So...incline bench, incline flys either dumbbell or pec deck, and flat bench flys. They stay away from traditional flat bench, or if they do it, they do high rep work to sharpen the edges but not gain size.

Just a reaction...

Looks like you've made some significant gains in the arms. Looks good for photo work especially.

Excellent work.

KenT

RBB
07-17-2006, 09:22 AM
Agree with the comment and your response to work on chest.

However, the men in modeling that I know here in L.A. focus on upper pec and the outer sweep of the lower pec, and try to avoid getting the lower pec really thick.

So...incline bench, incline flys either dumbbell or pec deck, and flat bench flys. They stay away from traditional flat bench, or if they do it, they do high rep work to sharpen the edges but not gain size.

Just a reaction...

Looks like you've made some significant gains in the arms. Looks good for photo work especially.

Excellent work.

KenT
oh man, you really think that you can isolate parts of the chest with those movements?

Slim Schaedle
07-17-2006, 09:29 AM
Agree with the comment and your response to work on chest.

However, the men in modeling that I know here in L.A. focus on upper pec and the outer sweep of the lower pec, and try to avoid getting the lower pec really thick.

So...incline bench, incline flys either dumbbell or pec deck, and flat bench flys. They stay away from traditional flat bench, or if they do it, they do high rep work to sharpen the edges but not gain size.

Just a reaction...

Looks like you've made some significant gains in the arms. Looks good for photo work especially.

Excellent work.

KenT
You haven't been around here long.

Look up the debates about this that have occurred over the years. This probably isn't the place to start those debates again.

KenT
07-17-2006, 05:33 PM
It's a constant debate -- everywhere, not just here. And it should be. I doubt that it got resolved here, anymore than it has gotten resolved anywhere else.

Differentiating factor is that Danpiel isn't talking about competitive bodybuilding, or about overall gains in mass -- he's talking about sculpting. In his own phrase, "bring it up a little". If he needs a traditional full body part workout to do that, then fine. No argument here.

In modeling, a thick lower pec interferes with how shirts fit and hang -- photographers and their clients tend not to like that, and tend not to hire models with that kind of development. So if he's going to work to bring up his chest, he has to be careful how he does it.

I'm sure he'd appreciate other opinions on how that is done, if people don't agree with the suggestions I made. I'll stick with mine.

Danpiel
08-27-2006, 09:04 PM
Chest looks like it's coming up? Well at least I think it is. BF 8% according to my scale. Does it look like 8?

WBBIRL
08-27-2006, 09:20 PM
For the 10 billionth time on the internet, you cannot spot reduce or spot increase (to a degree).

If your never working certaint muscles then ofcourse the ones you are working will increase beyond the ones your not working. Trying to build "parts" of his pectorals is foolish and 95% or better of how your muscles will look/build is genetic.

Tofer
08-27-2006, 09:28 PM
Your chest looks to be in proportion with the rest of your body, as far as I can see. As always, looking impressive man.

So, what's next? Do you want to get any bigger or are you more or less happy with maintaining what you've got?

Danpiel
08-27-2006, 09:35 PM
For the 10 billionth time on the internet, you cannot spot reduce or spot increase (to a degree).

If your never working certaint muscles then ofcourse the ones you are working will increase beyond the ones your not working. Trying to build "parts" of his pectorals is foolish and 95% or better of how your muscles will look/build is genetic.


So what does the other 5% go to?

Danpiel
08-27-2006, 09:38 PM
Your chest looks to be in proportion with the rest of your body, as far as I can see. As always, looking impressive man.

So, what's next? Do you want to get any bigger or are you more or less happy with maintaining what you've got?


Thanks Tofer. There is nothing else. Might lower my body fat percentage to 6%. To bring out more definition. I weighed in at 184lb with 8% bf today.

Nosaj
08-27-2006, 09:53 PM
You're easily single digit bf%. That being said, the majority of your posts are in the members pic section, so I'm going to be critical. For how lean you are, and how into the "model" look you are, your abs, especially your obliques and lower abs are lacking in size and definition. Chest and arms look proportionate, but you could use more LBM. (You have made good progress compared to 04' though, keep it up!) Only other thing is, shave/pluck, I'm not a fan of nip hair. I use nair on the chest, tweezer the nips and use electric clippers for the lower stomach/armpits, works really well. That's a personal choice obviously, but that's my opinion.

Danpiel
08-27-2006, 09:59 PM
You're easily single digit bf%. That being said, the majority of your posts are in the members pic section, so I'm going to be critical. For how lean you are, and how into the "model" look you are, your abs, especially your obliques and lower abs are lacking in size and definition. Chest and arms look proportionate, but you could use more LBM. (You have made good progress compared to 04' though, keep it up!) Only other thing is, shave/pluck, I'm not a fan of nip hair. I use nair on the chest, tweezer the nips and use electric clippers for the lower stomach/armpits, works really well. That's a personal choice obviously, but that's my opinion.


Great post I totally agree with you on the abs I will get them to where I want to be soon enough and I totally agree that more LBM will definitely improve my phyqisc. Thanks for being critical I need that extra push. What is wrong with a little hair there and here. I am a man I am supposed to have hair so no shaving for me dude.

Alex.V
08-27-2006, 10:55 PM
Hanging ab work should help... hanging leg raises from the pullup bar, windshield wipers, etc. All will help bring out the serratus, transverse abdominus, obliques, etc. and tighten up/bring out the midsection.

And KenT, that issue has been definitively answered and explained many times over, but there are always those who choose to ignore the facts and focus on anecdotal evidence and the words of those whose education consists of google and other 'personal trainers'.

Con
08-28-2006, 05:12 AM
Daniel, you should really know this: I HATE YOU!

:D You got a nice physique but If you dont mind me sayin, have you ever got a comment that your midsection looks a bit "odd"? Your obviously lean and have a nice physique but lookin at your abs, they just look funny, but that sholdnt stop you, overall you look great. Keep it up.

Danpiel
08-28-2006, 08:27 AM
Daniel, you should really know this: I HATE YOU!

:D You got a nice physique but If you dont mind me sayin, have you ever got a comment that your midsection looks a bit "odd"? Your obviously lean and have a nice physique but lookin at your abs, they just look funny, but that sholdnt stop you, overall you look great. Keep it up.


tuttut Nope never got comments like that. Well at least not yet. I personally don't think there funny looking but that's just me.

Cra-Z
08-29-2006, 05:31 PM
Lookin' pretty good homie. Pretty close to the same from the pics on the first page, but still good. That 2500 comment was quite funny. I didn't go through every page of course, but I hope you started eating more. I was eating around 6000 at 170 lbs.

Danpiel
08-29-2006, 07:10 PM
Lookin' pretty good homie. Pretty close to the same from the pics on the first page, but still good. That 2500 comment was quite funny. I didn't go through every page of course, but I hope you started eating more. I was eating around 6000 at 170 lbs.


Did you see the last pic I posted?

Danpiel
04-28-2007, 01:57 PM
Hey guys man it's been a while. Been training on and off for the past months. Currently look like this and weighing in around 180ish with 8%bf. Going away to europe for two months and I decided to go on a bulk to reach at least 190 plus pounds. Tell me what you guys think and what I am lacking on.

Later all.

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r266/Konstantin_02/new4.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r266/Konstantin_02/new5.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r266/Konstantin_02/new3.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r266/Konstantin_02/new2.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r266/Konstantin_02/new1.jpg

KarateBoy
04-28-2007, 03:32 PM
Instead of 4 ab pics, how about you include 1 back, 1 leg, 1 ab, and 1 of arms?

Danpiel
04-28-2007, 04:01 PM
sure no problem.

LevesqueIsKing
04-28-2007, 05:07 PM
2500 cals is nothing.
As far as different advice goes, 'Eat more' is about the best advice you're going to get.
If you're not gaining weight, you need to eat more. Thats all there is to it.
Anyways, looking good. How are the wheels?

When will you guys realize that some people have different goals? Obviously this guy is either cutting, or he wants to stay lean. Some people would prefer to slowly gain, but retain a six pack than gain quickly and put on some extra fat. And where did you get that he isnt gaining weight? He never said that, infact, it seems pretty clear to me that he IS gaining weight. Im pretty sure you just pulled that out of your ass.

Nonetheless op, you look great. Keep up the good work.

Nosaj
04-28-2007, 05:18 PM
Tell me what you guys think and what I am lacking on.

I'm with Karateboy, you ask for critique but post 4 pics of the exact same muscle groups? This is a bodybuilding website, post pictures accordingly. Back/dbl bi, lat spread, most muscular, leg/abs and leg/side chest are five pictures that would get you a lot better feedback on lagging body parts. You already said you're looking to put on 10lbs, so do it. I'd say you're lacking traps/lats and overall size everywhere. Strong point would be vascularity, very lean.

Danpiel
04-28-2007, 06:18 PM
After I finish training in europe and hopefully reach 190 plus pounds. I will post pictures according to Back/dbl bi, lat spread, most muscular, leg/abs and leg/side chest.

rookiebldr
04-28-2007, 06:36 PM
You're looking great Danpiel and another 10lbs will suit you very well. Good luck with the bulk.

fixationdarknes
04-28-2007, 09:21 PM
Haha your pictures are so awesome. And your face actually looks a bit like Willem Dafoe's (Green Goblin from Spiderman).

Very lean as usual. You rock. :thumbup:

kw1k
04-29-2007, 05:41 AM
looking lean Danpiel, keep doing what you're doing

SpecialK
04-29-2007, 11:33 AM
Question - Are you able to stay that lean throughout the entire day, or do you find you look leaner first thing in the morning after you wake up?

Danpiel
04-29-2007, 11:41 AM
Question - Are you able to stay that lean throughout the entire day, or do you find you look leaner first thing in the morning after you wake up?

I read your post dude. The reason you are not seeing much definition is because you are taking creatine and eating a lot of food. Which is a good thing because it will help you gain muscle assuming you are training/resting the correct way. Plus from my experience with creatine it also helped me a lot with strength enabling me to lift much heavier weights which in turn leads to high growth. So it sounds to me you are still on a bulk. After you hit your target weight jump off creatine and reduce your carb intake do the right amount of HIIT cardio while lifting high intensity and you will start to lose water/body fat.

SpecialK
04-29-2007, 11:43 AM
I read your post dude. The reason you are not seeing much definition is because you are taking creatine and eating a lot of food. Which is a good thing because it will help you gain muscle assuming you are training/resting the correct way. Plus from my experience with creatine it also helped me a lot with strength enabling me to lift much heavier weights which in turn leads to high growth. So it sounds to me you are still on a bulk. After you hit your target weight jump off creatine and reduce your carb intake do the right amount of HIIT cardio while lifting high intensity and you will start to lose water/body fat.

So what is your diet like now? Total cals, grams of carbs, etc?

Danpiel
04-29-2007, 11:56 AM
2500 cals/ 100g to 150g carbs, almost no sodium in my diet. Helped me drop body fat by a lot.

JSully
04-29-2007, 06:27 PM
ok, i'm going to be blunt.

You're been on thie site for about 3 1/2 years now, and have gained..... 17lbs LBM?

You don't have the credentials to be giving advice on how to bulk. you're overall physique isn't bad, but when you single out different bodyparts, it could be much much better. if you're going for the abercrombie look, you've got it nailed.

I think you've got a great body, 6 pack, ripped etc.. I don't think you've got a great physique. you're shoulders and back are tiny, you're chest is mediocre and your arms match your abs nicely. I don't think I've ever seen your legs so I won't even go there but I highly doubt they're being worked regularly.

------------- oh I'm not done yet, I have references -----------------


:help: I am 21 years old weigh 162 lb and my body fat is 8%. My goal is to get definition not necessarily get big. I am trying to get defined abs and work my arms, chest, back and legs. I also have some little fat around my waist, which I am trying to get rid of to have a nice cut look around that area. I need hints on diet, exercise routines and anything else that can be helpful.

Thanks to anyone who helps me out.

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Danpiel's pics as of 7/27/04 (http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=50714)

and here is a quote from that thread:

I am 6'1 with 8% body fat and weigh 170lb. Well I want to look ripped. Meaning I don't want to flex to show of my body. Yeah I kinda agree that working on just my arms, Shoulders and chest will overall make me look better and thats basically what I am doing right now. My work out consists off 4 days gym and 4 days hardcore basketball games with friends. PLus I surf and skateboard a lot too. I eat very clean. Lots of fruits and veggies and protein shakes. I also want my abs to look really really :omg:

Will post my total diet and you guys can tell me what I should change or add.

Thanks.

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as of 5/20/05 (http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=61758)

and a quote:


Hey Dudes,

I have not posted in months. Here are a couple shots of how I am looking now. I am 6'2 and weigh about 180 now.

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anyways... I'm done ranting. My point, you've gone from 160lbs to 180lbs in 3 1/2 years.

April 2003 I was 180lbs @ 16% bodyfat.
April 2007 I was 260lbs @ 18% bodyfat.

My fat has increased and decreased all the way down to 9% during the process. I've gone from 151lbs LBM to 212lbs LBM. Granted, I ran a cycle. But for those that knew what I went through when I came off, I lost nearly everything due to a screwed up right pec and a bad bad bad flu. Hell, I took august '06 through january '07 off.

And I disagree when it comes to creatine and cutting. If anything, go on an ethyl ester that won't make you retain the water. The creatine will do a good job of helping you hold on to LBM while cutting those calories.

But hey, what do I know.

Have fun in Europe and good luck with the 10lbs. Focus on your shoulders and back.

Danpiel
04-29-2007, 07:19 PM
Huge difference dude. You ran a cycle while I did everything 100% natural. I am don't know much about cutting but I do know from my experience taking creatine out of my diet along with minimizing sodium I was able to drop a lot body fat and retain at least 160lbm while also still lifting heavy. Little Jake what exactly is ethyl ester?

Also no where in my last post did I mention anything about giving advise on bulking that is something you came up with?

Also I took a look at your pictures. Man you have an impressive build envy!. Maybe you could give me advise on my bulk during my five month stay in europe?

faithless
04-29-2007, 07:45 PM
less salt helps you to drop body fat?

can anyone confirm this? That would be great if it's true.

NICS
04-29-2007, 08:07 PM
dude looking great nice work keep up the great work

JSully
04-29-2007, 10:01 PM
lol, how did I know you would bring up the cycle?

Ok, I ran natural until april 2005. Better? I was 255lbs at about 18% bodyfat. Like I said. I lost nearly everything I gained due to medical issues. I didn't juice to get big. I juiced to get ripped.

Anyways... I'm not going to argue, I said what I felt I needed to. I am not saying you look bad, in fact, I said you look great... for an abercrombie model. If that's your thing then perfect. You do look good, I would kill to have abs like that. You wanted a critique yet many many many times have people said to post actual bodybuilding photos, not all your abs. That was my critique. 100% natural in 3 1/2 years... I gained 30lbs LBM naturally in 2 years with ALOT of food.

bah, but all that set aside, if you worked your back and delts more you would look ****ing amazing, no matther what your legs looked like. meh, that's just my opinion.

And no, cutting salt won't drop bodyfat, cutting salt will keep water off which gives the appearance of being leaner.

PhilsterT
04-30-2007, 01:28 AM
Let him do what he wants. I personally, find your physique solid. Certainly there is room to go, but you have low bodyfat and some muscle there, which is certainly more than the average man and you will certainly be attractive at the beach.

Nice work.

Joe_Halt
04-30-2007, 09:07 AM
I read your post dude. The reason you are not seeing much definition is because you are taking creatine and eating a lot of food. Which is a good thing because it will help you gain muscle assuming you are training/resting the correct way. Plus from my experience with creatine it also helped me a lot with strength enabling me to lift much heavier weights which in turn leads to high growth. So it sounds to me you are still on a bulk. After you hit your target weight jump off creatine and reduce your carb intake do the right amount of HIIT cardio while lifting high intensity and you will start to lose water/body fat.


Why lose the creatine? I see no reason to drop creatine from your supplement regimen when cutting unless you just want too.

Davidelmo
04-30-2007, 10:04 AM
You look good, but really it depends what you're aiming for.

You're lean but 6ft1 and 180lbs is nothing special at all. Really if you want actual critique, post up better pics in traditional poses rather than the "myspace" type photos- front bi, rear biceps, lat spread, legs etc. That will help people to critique your physique.

At the minute it looks like everything is fairly in proportion, but coul do with being bigger. Can't really tell but back looks like it could be lagging. Also, have you ever posted leg pics? What are they like?

bill
04-30-2007, 10:10 AM
Got the model look down.

Alex.V
04-30-2007, 10:40 AM
You're lean but 6ft1 and 180lbs is nothing special at all. Really if you want actual critique, post up better pics in traditional poses rather than the "myspace" type photos- front bi, rear biceps, lat spread, legs etc. That will help people to critique your physique.



Yeah, if he's interested in bodybuilding. Which I don't think he is.

Danpiel, you look good man. Abs could honestly still use a little work. I wouldn't overdo the back or shoulders with your current look, you'd end up looking too top heavy. If you're interested in modeling, I would suggest (honestly) you get some advice from photographers, see what they work with, what they want to work with. I got a few I could send your way that have given me some pretty good feedback regarding physique. But don't expect much useful feedback on that field from a bodybuilding-focused board. :)

Danpiel
04-30-2007, 10:52 AM
LittleJake - I agree with you. Thanks for the time you put into my post.

PhilsterT - Yeah it looks cool and girls like it but that's not what I am looking for right now. I want to be bigger and a lot stronger.

Joe_Halt - Creatine has a water retention effect when you take it.

Davidelmo - I will post the correct way once I reach my target weight. I will also post legs.

Bill - Thanks but I am hating the small body model look. I want to get bigger.

Belial - I am interested in bodybuilding but I don't think I will ever compete even If I was able to achive 200 plus lb naturally. It's more a personal challenge for me to be bigger. I am no longer interested in modeling nore photographers. I left my agency and I don't think I will ever go back.

Unholy
04-30-2007, 10:57 AM
I think you look great. But if the bodybuilding look is what you are going for then I would eat, eat, and eat some more!

I think your progress has been great so far. I would also kill for your abs. I have never seen mine.

TwiloMike
04-30-2007, 04:08 PM
I think you look good as far as models go. It would be helpful if you included leg pics.

Gabrielle
04-30-2007, 04:59 PM
I think you look great. You have a couple of lagging bodyparts, but in general you have small waist, wide clavicles, long muscle bellies, etc. Which means you have potential to look even better. Focus hard on bulking after summer, my friend. Keep doing what you are doing

Danpiel
05-01-2007, 12:27 PM
Xsyav_ZYpQQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsyav_ZYpQQ

Here's a short little video of me training at home.

Unholy
05-01-2007, 12:31 PM
Vid doesnt work =(

Danpiel
05-01-2007, 12:34 PM
I fixed it.

TwiloMike
05-01-2007, 01:03 PM
Vid works. Still no legs, though. :(

JSully
05-01-2007, 09:34 PM
THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THE MODEL PHYSIQUE!!!!

lol.. that training session was weak man! Isometrics don't get you big, weights do!

:D

Cra-Z
05-01-2007, 09:36 PM
Haha, I was kinda thinking that.

ToughStuff
05-01-2007, 09:51 PM
kinda skinny man

Danpiel
05-02-2007, 08:23 AM
THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THE MODEL PHYSIQUE!!!!

lol.. that training session was weak man! Isometrics don't get you big, weights do!

:D

I actually was not doing Isometrics. I have heavy weights at home just not as heavy when compared to my gym. Yesterday I was able to squat 200lb to 225lb 5x5 style and also deadlift 200lb to 215 lb 5x5.

Danpiel
05-02-2007, 08:23 AM
kinda skinny man
Skinny is healthy but yeah I rather be big.

Cra-Z
05-02-2007, 08:26 AM
I actually was not doing Isometrics. I have heavy weights at home just not as heavy when compared to my gym. Yesterday I was able to squat 200lb to 225lb 5x5 style and also deadlift 200lb to 215 lb 5x5.
I don't know if it's just me, but I think after years you should probably be able to do a bit more than that. No offense intended or anything, but I'd consider some different training techniques. From the looks of you, you'd probably benifit more from an extreme shift in diet. Eat man.

sharkall2003
05-02-2007, 08:28 AM
Skinny is healthy but yeah I rather be big.

According to what? A BMI chart? Other than that, something that is probably better used in the sixties, being light is not necessarily healthier.

Danpiel
05-02-2007, 08:30 AM
I don't know if it's just me, but I think after years you should probably be able to do a bit more than that. No offense intended or anything, but I'd consider some different training techniques. From the looks of you, you'd probably benifit more from an extreme shift in diet. Eat man.

I am sure I can do more but I want to take it slow get my strenght up before I really go heavy. Also need to get a belt and I am still at 180lb when I start to get stronger I will bump my lifts slowy. Btw I am able to squat 300lbx3 when I feel good in the gym. Don't know what my max deadlift is?

Danpiel
05-02-2007, 08:32 AM
According to what? A BMI chart? Other than that, something that is probably better used in the sixties, being light is not necessarily healthier.


According to science. When you bulk your body overall take a huge beating. On joint's,muscle,bone's etc.

sharkall2003
05-02-2007, 08:36 AM
You know that running and lifting is hard on your joints too? Everything is bad for you according to science. I've heard of crap saying eating too many of certain vegetables could lead to cancer.

Anyways, what's your routine like? Those deadlifts are a little low.

Danpiel
05-02-2007, 08:57 AM
You know that running and lifting is hard on your joints too? Everything is bad for you according to science. I've heard of crap saying eating too many of certain vegetables could lead to cancer.

Anyways, what's your routine like? Those deadlifts are a little low.

Day 1

back/chest/biceps/triceps

day 2 off

day 3 legs/cavs/shoulders

day 4 cardio and abs in the morning.

day 5 off

day 6 cardio and abs in the morning.

day 7 cardio and abs in the morning.

I superset my sets and I usually do 4 to 5 sets pre muscle group. Lifting as heavy as I can go. I consume around 3500 to 4000 cals. About 250 to 300grams of carbs, 260 to 300 grams of protein, and 50 grams of good fats.

BFGUITAR
05-02-2007, 09:36 AM
Haha so ow your eating more? Good!

Lookin very ripped, nice chest and arms. Your lats though are non-existant.

You may want to split your routine and maybe be back and bis one day and chest and tris another. This way you can hit your muscle groups alot harder.

Danpiel
05-02-2007, 09:50 AM
Haha so ow your eating more? Good!

Lookin very ripped, nice chest and arms. Your lats though are non-existant.

You may want to split your routine and maybe be back and bis one day and chest and tris another. This way you can hit your muscle groups alot harder.

Thanks, Yeah lats suck. I will try that split give it a good month.

Invain
05-02-2007, 09:51 AM
Abs are a normal muscle group just like everything else, so why are you working them 3 times a week?

Danpiel
05-02-2007, 09:54 AM
Abs are a normal muscle group just like everything else, so why are you working them 3 times a week?

I dunno I always worked my abs a lot. I can always cut it down.

Danpiel
05-02-2007, 10:16 AM
Here are some leg shots.


http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r266/Konstantin_02/IMG_2152.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r266/Konstantin_02/IMG_2150.jpg

ilovemtl
05-02-2007, 07:34 PM
Great Job man!

Gabrielle
05-03-2007, 02:13 AM
You have incredible genetics. I'm sure you have heard this before, but you should be modeling.

Nosaj
05-03-2007, 05:58 AM
I'm glad to hear you're actually eating, if you keep it up, you might accidentally get big. :D

TwiloMike
05-03-2007, 06:42 AM
The quads aren't bad at all- seem pretty much in line with the rest of your physique. Good job not ignoring legs. :thumbup:

Danpiel
05-04-2007, 05:55 PM
You have incredible genetics. I'm sure you have heard this before, but you should be modeling.

I am done with modeling a long time ago. Modeling is BS. I want to train hard,lift heavy and get to 200 plus pounds or die trying.

Danpiel
05-04-2007, 05:56 PM
I'm glad to hear you're actually eating, if you keep it up, you might accidentally get big. :D

Very funny.

WBBIRL
05-04-2007, 09:12 PM
Being fat and having been for a long time, I would want you physique but only as a starting point. If I could get myself to the point your at now I'd gain 30 pounds of muscle and be done with it.

For the record, cutting sucks ass.

Danpiel
05-04-2007, 10:32 PM
Being fat and having been for a long time, I would want you physique but only as a starting point. If I could get myself to the point your at now I'd gain 30 pounds of muscle and be done with it.

For the record, cutting sucks ass.
You say gaining 30 lb of muscle like it's a walk in the park. 30 lb is a lot. It will take you at least two years to pack on that much muscle doing it naturally.

Cra-Z
05-05-2007, 08:06 AM
I gained 28 lbs in 3 months ending at 12% bf.

sharkall2003
05-05-2007, 08:25 AM
You say gaining 30 lb of muscle like it's a walk in the park. 30 lb is a lot. It will take you at least two years to pack on that much muscle doing it naturally.

Yeah, and It's not that hard, seriously. I did it. But if you're not going to do a bulk, then you're wasting your time. It would take you much more time than 2 years at this point to gain that much muscle if you'll only eat a little over maintenance to gain muscle. I went from 185 to 230 in one year. Down to 205. Same bodyfat. Then I went from 205 to 238 and now I'm cutting down to 220. Thats 35 lbs in 2 years I have been here. At less than 12%.

sharkall2003
05-05-2007, 08:26 AM
If you're lifting for hypertrophy and size and not for strength (which will come regardless) you can easily get that. It takes a lot of dedication, however.

Cra-Z
05-05-2007, 08:26 AM
Props for that shark.

Danpiel
05-05-2007, 09:56 AM
I gaing 28 lbs in 3 months ending at 12% bf.

Hey Cra-z Please don't take this the wrong way but you really shouldn't be giving me advise.

Danpiel
05-05-2007, 09:58 AM
Yeah, and It's not that hard, seriously. I did it. But if you're not going to do a bulk, then you're wasting your time. It would take you much more time than 2 years at this point to gain that much muscle if you'll only eat a little over maintenance to gain muscle. I went from 185 to 230 in one year. Down to 205. Same bodyfat. Then I went from 205 to 238 and now I'm cutting down to 220. Thats 35 lbs in 2 years I have been here. At less than 12%.
Did you test your LBM at the point you are now? I mean you look tick and you definitely know what you are doing. How many cals did you eat to go from 185 to 230?

ArchAngel777
05-05-2007, 10:22 AM
Well, I have to chime in here... I think you have an excellence physique. Personally, if I were in your shoes, I would be happy just to maintain what you do. So, props to you bud.

Getting big is all about person preference - I have no desire to be 200 lbs @ 8% BF at 5'10", but most on this site do. That is where I think a little bit of respect comes in from others. A lot of people are coming in here and dogging you a bit and I don't think that is right. Gaining 17 pounds of pure LBM in 2-3 years IS respectable in my opinion. Many people waste that much time just bulking to fatty mcfatty stages, then spending the next part of their living starving at 1,000 calories just to get the excess fat off. The end result? They probably could have done the same with a slow bulk.

Anyway, just wanted to say you are looking ace dude... Your body is quite well balanced. :thumbup:

Danpiel
05-05-2007, 10:52 AM
Well, I have to chime in here... I think you have an excellence physique. Personally, if I were in your shoes, I would be happy just to maintain what you do. So, props to you bud.

Getting big is all about person preference - I have no desire to be 200 lbs @ 8% BF at 5'10", but most on this site do. That is where I think a little bit of respect comes in from others. A lot of people are coming in here and dogging you a bit and I don't think that is right. Gaining 17 pounds of pure LBM in 2-3 years IS respectable in my opinion. Many people waste that much time just bulking to fatty mcfatty stages, then spending the next part of their living starving at 1,000 calories just to get the excess fat off. The end result? They probably could have done the same with a slow bulk.

Anyway, just wanted to say you are looking ace dude... Your body is quite well balanced. :thumbup:


Thank you. I took a look at you and you're wife giving birth. Beautiful pictures. You guys are one beautiful couple. Congretz dude.

rk77
05-05-2007, 11:49 AM
Dan, i personally think you have a real good build and dont really think you need to gain 20 pounds. But if thats your goal i def agree with the slow bulk. Im kinda in the same boat as you right now, though you have a little size on me, and I kinda come to value low bf. Im tryin to bulk a bit but its def gonna be a slow one because i dont want to have to do a hardcore cut at somepoint. Good luck with your bulk, whatever way you decide to do it.

WBBIRL
05-05-2007, 01:56 PM
Your talking to a man whos gone from 205 pounds in 8th grade to over 300 pounds just 30 months later. I started at probably 205 pounds and 20% bodyfat and ended up at about 310 pounds at around 27%.

205 with 175 pounds of LBM to 300 with 217 pounds of LBM roughly... That took over 2 and a half years of eating like a horse.. noobie gains and powerlifting/football conditioning. I know how to gain weight, thank you.

Cra-Z
05-05-2007, 10:08 PM
Hey Cra-z Please don't take this the wrong way but you really shouldn't be giving me advise.
I don't really see how that was advice. Not sure what you mean.

sharkall2003
05-05-2007, 11:01 PM
When I was on a bulk for over a half year I was eating 4k plus a day. Now I can maintenance at somewhere around 2500 on an stack, and five days a week of training. I didn't want to waist a lot of time, and I gained A LOT In my legs.

Tofer
05-05-2007, 11:07 PM
Your talking to a man whos gone from 205 pounds in 8th grade to over 300 pounds just 30 months later. I started at probably 205 pounds and 20% bodyfat and ended up at about 310 pounds at around 27%.

205 with 175 pounds of LBM to 300 with 217 pounds of LBM roughly... That took over 2 and a half years of eating like a horse.. noobie gains and powerlifting/football conditioning. I know how to gain weight, thank you.

I don't mean to offend, man, but I think you're really overestimating your numbers. I'd hate for you to get over-confident and then be disappointed with how you look if/when you get down to ~220. Your pics from 300+ lbs look WELL over 27%. I don't think he was questioning whether you can gain weight. And besides, until you've gained weight in a controlled manner I don't think your input really means much to him (sorry if I sound like a dick).


Danpiel looks good right now, and if he wants to put on 20 lbs of LBM very slowly without having to sacrifice his body fat % and become ****in Jabba the Hutt, then so be it. Personally, if I were in his shoes I would do the exact same thing.

sharkall2003
05-06-2007, 06:53 AM
I also had two a day lifting sessions, and did ton's of cardio to get like that though.

Canadian Crippler
05-07-2007, 09:04 AM
According to what? A BMI chart? Other than that, something that is probably better used in the sixties, being light is not necessarily healthier.As much as I love bodybuilding, and as big as I plan to get.... I fully accept that it's not the healthiest of lifestyles to live.

KenT
05-11-2007, 09:26 AM
Glad to see you back, and that you are now wanting to put on some size.

200 lbs at your height can look pretty great. You'd need to go to a different board, but you can look at JamerJay on bodybuilding.com, or you can see his videos on YouTube also under the name JamerJay. Most of his photos are at around 195 so at 6'2" -- he just turned 23 and is lifetime natural. I'd guess it's the kind of physique you're looking to achieve. He's also pretty knowledgeable about clean bulks and cutting.

Your video, though hard to see, looks like you've made good progress since quitting modeling.

Have a great time in Europe!

Danpiel
05-11-2007, 10:49 AM
Glad to see you back, and that you are now wanting to put on some size.

200 lbs at your height can look pretty great. You'd need to go to a different board, but you can look at JamerJay on bodybuilding.com, or you can see his videos on YouTube also under the name JamerJay. Most of his photos are at around 195 so at 6'2" -- he just turned 23 and is lifetime natural. I'd guess it's the kind of physique you're looking to achieve. He's also pretty knowledgeable about clean bulks and cutting.

Your video, though hard to see, looks like you've made good progress since quitting modeling.

Have a great time in Europe!

Man that dude looks good. I got a long way to catch him.

KenT
05-11-2007, 11:01 AM
Granted...but it gives you an idea what is possible given decent genetics, hard work, and knowledge. Jay was a skinny cross-country runner in his mid-teens, at least by his own report.

You have a different structure, different metabolism, etc., but my experience of watching actual competitors developing over a period of years as I have continued judging, tells me you have considerable undeveloped potential. So, you wouldn't look exactly like him, but you would have a comparably impressive physique of your own.

Go for it man! I think you're sweating the small stuff in the past couple of pages of posts. You have enough success already to know that the fundamentals are high intake of clean calories, consistent workouts with emphasis on basic compound movements pushing maximum weight, and rest.

Some basic supplements like high quality protein powder, high dosage B complex vitamins, branch chain aminos, and additional L-Glutamine are helpful. Beyond that the fancy supplements may help folks who are nearing the limits of their genetics, but they aren't going to have a major effect on the kind of results you are currently seeking since you have a LOT of genetic potential still to explore.

Personal opinion, though he no longer posts on this site, the most knowledgeable and honest guy for info on the advanced supplements, including AAS, is BCC. He now posts on bb.com as TheJuicedChase.

Anyway...best wishes. I think you're goals are eminently achievable.

Ken T.

recordgeek
05-20-2007, 08:53 PM
First--most guys would kill to have a build like yours. That being said, wondering what kind of routine you do--I found that lifting heavy for 6 weeks or so, then taking 3-4 weeks off, helped me grow (to the extent that I have grown, I'm by no means big). That, and pretty much never letting yourself get hungry.

Regardless, great work getting to where you are now.

- Mike

Danpiel
05-22-2007, 11:27 AM
Hey boys and girls. Today I weighed in at 190lb with bf around 11'ish

heres pix.

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r266/Konstantin_02/IMG_2176.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r266/Konstantin_02/IMG_2174.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r266/Konstantin_02/IMG_2172.jpg