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tj_muller
10-18-2005, 02:47 PM
I'm bluking, and instead of doing 1 or 2 days of HIIT for 20 mins I was thinking I could do 5 mins of running before each work out and on each off day. Would this be a stuitable alternative?
5x7= 35 mins
20x2= 40mins
In the end, as you can see, it's about the same amount of cardio and it should produce the same benifit, which I still lack the understanding of, of cardio in a bulking routine.
Thoughts?

Built
10-18-2005, 02:56 PM
No cardio before lifting.

Vita
10-18-2005, 03:04 PM
No cardio before lifting.

what about walking with a heart rate of ~110 for a warm up?

Patz
10-18-2005, 03:07 PM
Why is the title of this thread referenced to Hitler??

squat it all!
10-18-2005, 03:08 PM
Why is the title of this thread referenced to Hitler??

whoa, good call... maybe edit the title, huh?

Patz
10-18-2005, 03:09 PM
I dunno..

I don't wanna go all "Nazi" mod..

squat it all!
10-18-2005, 03:11 PM
is it even possible to edit a title?

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
10-18-2005, 03:12 PM
No cardio before lifting.:withstupi

squat it all!
10-18-2005, 03:12 PM
"cardio scheme question" much better...

Built
10-18-2005, 03:14 PM
what about walking with a heart rate of ~110 for a warm up?

What for?

Patz
10-18-2005, 03:14 PM
"cardio scheme question" much better...

elwood is uber...the OP cannot edit a title, though..

Vita
10-18-2005, 03:18 PM
What for?

for a warm up, or is it just wasted energy?

i do ten minutes on an eliptical machine, keeping my heart rate down to that level. not for cardio. i feel it gets me going and loosens up my body

if i do cardio, i do it after a workout

Unreal
10-18-2005, 03:28 PM
Warm up with weights to lift weights.

If your doing cardio for actual cardio vascular health, then you want to get your heart rate up and sustain it for a period of time. Running for 5 minutes would not do this. If your doing cardio just to burn cals, then I would assume you would burn the same cals doing 5 minutes 4 times a week as 1 20 minute session, assuming same pace/intensity.

Built
10-18-2005, 03:30 PM
:withstupi

Indeed. I warm up for weights with weights. Cardio before is a waste of time and glucose.

tj_muller
10-19-2005, 10:14 AM
1st off, sry about the title. Didn't realize..

Anyway, this question has been bugging me for a long time. That is, how to get rid of or keep off fat while bulking. I'm thinking now that cardio isn't the answer since if you're to lose fat you need a calorie deficit.. no?
I think the answer is in a diet. I've never bulked before so I really don't know much is needed and how much is too much, and what to eat or not eat to avoid fat gain.

hoser813
10-19-2005, 10:40 AM
No cardio before lifting.

Why?

Vita
10-19-2005, 11:15 AM
1st off, sry about the title. Didn't realize..

Anyway, this question has been bugging me for a long time. That is, how to get rid of or keep off fat while bulking. I'm thinking now that cardio isn't the answer since if you're to lose fat you need a calorie deficit.. no?
I think the answer is in a diet. I've never bulked before so I really don't know much is needed and how much is too much, and what to eat or not eat to avoid fat gain.

if you're gaining too fast, just cut back on your calories a little, if not enough then add some snacks here and there.

i'd say cardio is good, though not too much, because your heart is a muscle too.

a good way to get it is in the bedroom :angel:

Unreal
10-19-2005, 12:50 PM
By definition a bulk is eating above maintaince to promote tissue growth. Its probably impossable to make 100% of extra calories goto muscle and put on zero fat while bulking. So if you are putting on too much fat, you can cut back the food. Now your lifts/gains may slow. Thats why most people agree a bulk then cut strategy is far more effective to reach a desired result. Bulk up, and just accept the fat gain, and then trim the fat later.