Is this Normal? Bump after last winnie shot?

[ButtAhZ]

Hey guys, I just did a winnie shot in my glute and after i went to wipe off the area i felt a hard bump under my skin. Is that normal, what could i have done? SHould i stop for now or is this just normal?

[thetopdog]

You probably shot somewhere too shallow/didn't use a long enough needle. Sometimes there's a lump, if you just finished shooting, there's not much you can do except maybe heat and massage the area

[ButtAhZ]

You probably shot somewhere too shallow/didn't use a long enough needle. Sometimes there's a lump, if you just finished shooting, there's not much you can do except maybe heat and massage the area

Will it go away, i have to see my GF in a few days and i dont want her to fell a bump on my ass...LOL

[HILL]

yeh ive had these before when i injected into my glute you didnt go far enough in so the oil is sat in the fatty tissue above the muscle as far as i can remember. it will go away eventually. this is the reason i switched to quad shots and havnt done a glute one since

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Will it go away, i have to see my GF in a few days and i dont want her to fell a bump on my ass...LOL

just massage the area, youll be good to go.

[ButtAhZ]

thx guys seems to be going away or getting smaller.

[ButtAhZ]

You guys think i need a PCT when doing a winnie only cycle, rite now im using winnie and some tribbulus....

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yes

[smalls]

Yes, here also.

[HILL]

yup

[cphafner]

You guys think i need a PCT when doing a winnie only cycle, rite now im using winnie and some tribbulus....

Didn't you post a couple of days ago saying you were doing just deca? Doesn't seem like you thought your cycle out at all.

[smalls]

I've had inflamation on my ass so large it was visible through my jeans. Also, I would suggest not lying to your girlfriend, jmo.

[thetopdog]

I don't usually disagree with smalls, but I would have to say that it is a very good idea to lie to your girlfriend. I don't trust any girl, especially not with something that could get you in legal trouble like steroids. Relationships end, and you can't expect females of all people to behave rationally and logically

[smalls]

That's true, but I would never get into an actual relationship with a crazy psycho bioiznitch that would take my info to the police, cuz then I'd have to kill her and that's never cool.

I've had as many as 5 females know much more problamatic info about me then steroid use, and I havent had a problem yet. Just pick good girls. lol, easier said than done.

If your just hanging out with a girl then you really have no obligation to just go spilling your guts, but hiding something as trivial as juicing from someone you love seems weird to me. But i'm kinda weird.

[thetopdog]

That's true, but I would never get into an actual relationship with a crazy psycho bioiznitch that would take my info to the police, cuz then I'd have to kill her and that's never cool.

I've had as many as 5 females know much more problamatic info about me then steroid use, and I havent had a problem yet. Just pick good girls. lol, easier said than done.

If your just hanging out with a girl then you really have no obligation to just go spilling your guts, but hiding something as trivial as juicing from someone you love seems weird to me. But i'm kinda weird.

If he said it was his wife, I'd kind of understand, although I still might be a little weary, but a girlfriend is completely different. "Girlfriend" is just an arbitrary title that could mean anything from a girl you intend to propose to, to a girl that you keep around when you want some *****. Most relationships tend more towards the latter than the former.

And most girls are psycho, whether you realize it or not ;) I've heard horror stories about bros who let their wives know they're juicing, then things don't work out, and their wife tells the cops about the juice, and brings the jucing up in custody trials to try and prove the guy isn't a good father. I'd rather just keep this kind of thing to myself

[smalls]

People shouldnt marry someone they can't trust. So far in my experience I've been able to tell descent people apart from the ones you speak of. Maybe i'm just lucky.

Every girl i've ever dated, or been serious friends with has known. I've never been slightly worried about problems.

[HILL]

ive been seeing my g.f 3 years and she knew from the start that i wanted to juice. we fell out over it had arguments but i always come back with the same argument. its better than me beeing out getting wrecked and doing drugs with my mates. she actually has theatend to tell my parents in the earlier days but never actually went thru with it. however my parents know now anyway so its not to much of a problem. i wouldnt lie about it but i wouldnt openly give her the info if ya get my drift. treat her on a need to know

[Hatred]

You're not doing a cycle of Deca and Winnie are you?
You can die from that you know.

[rhett2go]

You're not doing a cycle of Deca and Winnie are you?
You can die from that you know.

why do you waste your energy typing? is there any point to your quote or do you just think you are funny? you are supposed to be a mod. act like one and actually give some useful information once in a while instead of blasting or just being a smart *****.

JMO

rhett

[smalls]

Actually i like Hatred's style. Cuz anyone with a wee bit of research on this topic would interpret hatred's post like this:
Wow, that's a poorly planned cycle, probably best to drop that and just do test alone, especially for your first one. He just states in a more upfront "your a ******" style.

And if you dont know that, then you shouldnt be putting foreign (potentially hazaderous) compounds into your body.

[ButtAhZ]

Didn't you post a couple of days ago saying you were doing just deca? Doesn't seem like you thought your cycle out at all.

I did think it out but didnt know alot about PCTs. And it was the last shot that this had happened. I currently stopped errthing and im just asking if it has happened to anyone. I also know the harsh affects of deca and the effects of winnie and just wanted to know if a winnie only cycle needed a PCT and which one because i heard the sides of winnie are not as bad as deca.

[smalls]

Winstrol will destroy a normal person HDL levels (were talking single digits, quickly).
It is especially rough on the joints, couple that with the fact that deca will most likely "mask" the pain associated and you have a nice recipe for damage, especially if your diet is on and your gaining strength like you should be.
Winnie is liver toxic. *edit* damnit now i'm spelling it like you.

I've done a stupid amount of anabolics, i've put on 40lbs in 2 months, i've dropped the same, i've stayed on for extended periods for no good reason. When bulking I go to sleep with a heart beat so hard that is physically shakes my bed, basically I've done plenty of unhealthy things associated with this lifestyle, but I have never done winny. Stop taking gear advice from whoever told you the sides werent bad.

(No winny is not satan, it's just not the angel it's thought of by many newbs, and is unnecasary for most peoples goals)

[ButtAhZ]

Actually i like Hatred's style. Cuz anyone with a wee bit of research on this topic would interpret hatred's post like this:
Wow, that's a poorly planned cycle, probably best to drop that and just do test alone, especially for your first one. He just states in a more upfront "your a ******" style.

And if you dont know that, then you shouldnt be putting foreign (potentially hazaderous) compounds into your body.

Yea but not everyone has the knowledge that most experience users have. So what if someone were to ask a question that most people in here know the answer too, not everyone has been saucin for the amount of time most people in here has been. So to be a prick and answer questions with a "F your a dumb ass" attitude is horrible. Especially when this is suppose to be a forum. And especially if your a mod. If these are the answer most people get then dayum im seriously in the wrong forum. Sorry i havent saucin' as long as errone here has. Learning is not about reading through books and webpages but learning comes from making mistakes and asking questions to correcting the mistakes which i am trying to do. But when someone comes with a question that you mite think is stupid, sometimes its not as stupid to them as it is to hatred!!!

But i just wanted to thank everyone that actually had a informative answer to my question i really appreciate it!!

[ButtAhZ]

Winstrol will destroy a normal person HDL levels (were talking single digits, quickly).
It is especially rough on the joints, couple that with the fact that deca will most likely "mask" the pain associated and you have a nice recipe for damage, especially if your diet is on and your gaining strength like you should be.
Winnie is liver toxic. *edit* damnit now i'm spelling it like you.

I've done a stupid amount of anabolics, i've put on 40lbs in 2 months, i've dropped the same, i've stayed on for extended periods for no good reason. When bulking I go to sleep with a heart beat so hard that is physically shakes my bed, basically I've done plenty of unhealthy things associated with this lifestyle, but I have never done winny. Stop taking gear advice from whoever told you the sides werent bad.

(No winny is not satan, it's just not the angel it's thought of by many newbs, and is unnecasary for most peoples goals)


Thx smalls, yea i will take your advice, im just ganna chill on the winstrol but alot of $$$ gone done the drain. I had already stopped been clean for a week now havent really felt any sides yet but hopefully it wont be too bad. I was only on it for 3 weeks at low dosages. I stopped the dec and the strol. Hopefully i didnt do it long enuff to kill what i worked 6 years to build

[smalls]

Really the only thing you'll probably have to worry about after 3 weeks on is PCT and even then your boys should be back at it in no time.

[ButtAhZ]

Really the only thing you'll probably have to worry about after 3 weeks on is PCT and even then your boys should be back at it in no time.

So do you think i still should grab some PCT even after a short cycle like 3 weeks or you think it'll just go back to normal by itself? i was only doin 100mg per week of dec and 100mg of strol per week...

[smalls]

That's still enough to shut your boys down. How long have you been off again? I would use, nolvaldex or clomid for 3 weeks just to make sure. Search for threads on post cycle therapy and the above mentioned drugs to get some more ideas.

[rhett2go]

smalls, that was loaded with useful information. good posts. i think what might not be realized is that in answering a question that seems "stupid" with more "stupid" retorts, people that are in this forum (not involved with the thread) are using that information for their research.

IOW the newb in here is apt to believe the snyde remarks when they come from a mod. if hatred wants to be a smart ***** that cool with me. but he should be a member and not a mod.

[smalls]

smalls, that was loaded with useful information. good posts. i think what might not be realized is that in answering a question that seems "stupid" with more "stupid" retorts, people that are in this forum (not involved with the thread) are using that information for their research.

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Thanks bro. I guess that's true, but still it just gets old having to repeat stuff and getting dumb questions so the "funny, or jerklike" responses are expected ya know.

[Hatred]

smalls, that was loaded with useful information. good posts. i think what might not be realized is that in answering a question that seems "stupid" with more "stupid" retorts, people that are in this forum (not involved with the thread) are using that information for their research.

IOW the newb in here is apt to believe the snyde remarks when they come from a mod. if hatred wants to be a smart ***** that cool with me. but he should be a member and not a mod.
And to think I have agreed with you on so may issues and even went and changed that dumbasses avatar when he used yours.
As a MODERATOR, my job is to keep the forums free of useless garbage and to act as a mediator and tone things down. My job is not to be a go-to guy as far as answers are concerned.
Want an Example? Soba. He is very much a newb as far as bb'ing goes but has qualities that make him a good mod. You can do the same things I do when it comes to expressing opinions as far as studies are concerned. I bet you'll get sick and goddamned tired of typing the same ****ing things over and over when there is a sticky with all of the information needed at the top of the forum.
Sorry to break it to yoy my friends; But there hasn't been a question that hasn't been answered already in quite some time.
You want an extended response? Fine.
That's a ****ing HORRIBLE stack.
Deca is good for putting on mass but is in your system a VERY VERY long time as it stores itself in fatty tissues. It also masks pain in your joints that can be perceived as the drug "helping" your joints out.
if you are prone to gyno then Deca will definitely let you know.
Winstrol is a drug that is very very hard on your joints..<see above>
it adversely affects your cholesterol profile and is a drug that should only be used by individuals that are lean already that can reap the results of it.


Now for PCT..(cus this has NEVER been answered in a ****ing stickie before. :rolleyes: )
Deca will shut you down HARD and for a long time.
Yes you will need PCT with any AAS. ANY. that means ALL of them
ALL
Main Entry: 1all
Pronunciation: 'ol
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English all, al, from Old English eall; akin to Old High German all all
1 a : the whole amount or quantity of <needed all the courage they had> <sat up all night> b : as much as possible <spoke in all seriousness>
2 : every member or individual component of <all men will go> <all five children were present>
3 : the whole number or sum of <all the angles of a triangle are equal to two right angles>
4 : EVERY <all manner of hardship>
5 : any whatever <beyond all doubt>

So, to summarize.

if hatred wants to be a smart ***** that cool with me. but he should be a member and not a mod.

Apparently it's not cool with you.
Yoy got a problem with me that's cool...if you have a better response to give him...
Answer the ****ing questions yourself..you know where the stickies are.
Until then. Shut the **** up.

Most of my responses are put out there to create curiosity and hopefully cause someone to take a Pro-Active response and hopefully ask why I am saying these mean, nasty things.
I am constantly let down though.
As you mentioned, this is a forum for everyone to get together and give opinions and share information.

EDIT:I went back through the thread and read all of the responses.
There are several members here that are very educated on AAS usage.
Smalls,restless,Chris Russow...etc usually have accurate information.
Smalls handled it very nicely this time around. Then I posted basically the same goddamn thing.
case in point.

[Hatred]

What were you trying to accomplish with 200mg's of AAS for three weeks?

[dw06wu]

I think hatred can be a little blunt sometimes, but I also agree with him too. I've never posted a thread in this forum. I just read, read, read. I see a bunch of dumbass questions all the time that have been answered 500x and I haven't even been in this area for long.

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You make some good points hatred I feel also

[rhett2go]

by hatred:
Yoy got a problem with me that's cool...if you have a better response to give him...
Answer the ****ing questions yourself..you know where the stickies are.
Until then. Shut the **** up.

i wouldnt ask to be or accept a mod position if i could not give answers to valid questiond. yes, there are thousands of "stupid" questions in this forum but it is up to the vets/mods to give the answers. if the answer is "read the sticky" why cant it be "read the sticky" instead of "read the ****ing sticky you goddamn newb ******". you have A LOT of aas knowledge and i understand why the same old questions piss you off,,,,,,but there are newbies coming to this board every day (and that keeps the board alive). you should embrase that instead of running them off.

if you will take note instead of running off at the mouth, ButtAhz only has TWELVE posts. he actually NEEDS YOUR help.
i dont dislike you (not that you care, hell i dint even know you) i just dont think you take your responsibility as a mod as seriously as you should. you are supposed to be a role model and HUGE source of information, not a HUGE source of criticism.

Hatred:
"As a MODERATOR, my job is to keep the forums free of useless garbage and to act as a mediator and tone things down. My job is not to be a go-to guy as far as answers are concerned."

*********..officially or not you ARE the go-to guy. who else are we to believe about information if we cant believe the mods?

bottom line, whats the use of the forum if no one is the go-to guy. ?we all take a wild ***** guess as to whats right and wrong? i give an uneducated answer, he gives an uneducated answer an so on. com on Bro, give us your knowledge. i promise it wont hurt. i never doubted your knowledge or expierence, just the way you express it.

[Hatred]

This is not a contrasting point I am arguing so don't take it as such.
I know I am the "go-to" guy as well as a mod. I was pointing out that that is not what qualifies you as a moderator here though.

I really don't mind sharing knowledge. I really don't, I love it as much as I do learning.

Answer this honestly: Would you or would you not get tired of me typing "read the sticky." as nauseum?
I know you would.
I could be that guy.
I'd rather paint with the WHOLE rainbow per se.
I guarantee you/others that you would get bent out of shape if I was all about "read the stickiez!!!!" and only that as well.

If I honestly felt that I didn't have anyone here to back me up information-wise i'd be a little more serious with my posting and make sure to cut to the chase about it.
this is a great site with great members and that is a luxury we have here.

[rhett2go]

fair enough.

[ButtAhZ]

What were you trying to accomplish with 200mg's of AAS for three weeks?

I started then stopped because i found that i wasn't too informed of how to use it properlly. The person giving me advise about it forgot to mention alot of the S*** that i've been reading in these forums, so for that reason i stopped when i was 3 weeks into it!!!

[ButtAhZ]

Sorry guys didnt mean to stir up trouble, just really worried about what i was putting in my body, most times if you know someone that tells you they've done something before you would trus that your getting good info, i guess the guy i was getting info from that told me i should try gear doesnt really know too much about gear.

[rhett2go]

hang around a while and you can teach HIM a thing or two!

[Hatred]

Exactly. When I paid out the ass for my first bottle the guy I got it from was loaded with horrible information.