Replacing sustanon...

[Shankerr]

I bought some sustanon from a lab that has since gone outta business. About the time it was made, they were starting to scam hard, like sending 50mg/ml and passing it off as 400mg/ml so in reality, I was taking about 600mg/wk, but in reality I was probably only shooting about 50 - 100mg/wk of the sustanon, along with 500mg of deca.

Obviously this caused serious conflicts, to the tune of hardcore erectile issues and the worst crank rage I've ever experienced.

I didn't know the lab went under, or anyhting about the scamming, as I hadn;t been around the AAS boards a lot lately, and I had had good luck with this lab before, so I never thought anything about it..

SO heres the recovery plan to get some serious testosterone into me to make up for it...... I got some prop today (obviously from a different lab, thats reputation is still outstanding), gonna run 150mg/ED for a couple days, then 150mg EOD for a couple days, then mix 100mg of prop into 300mg of enanthate for a couple biweekly shots, and then onto straight enanthate at 600mg/wk I think.

What do you guys think of that idea??

[Shankerr]

ps. I should actually have a higer effective testosterone level within like what, 5 or 6 hours of a shot of prop, right? Info?

[thetopdog]

I think that's a little too complicated

Here's what I would do:
Frontload the Test E, shoot 1200mg the first week, and 600-900mg the 2nd week

The first 2 weeks, shoot 100mg prop ED

Starting the 3rd week, just keep shooting 600mg/week till you're done

I don't know if its the best way, I'm just coming up with this on my laptop as I'm (literally) sitting on the toilet taking a dump, so it may not be that well thought out. But it should get your levels up quickly and keep them reasonably stable (I think)

[HILL]

well if you have already been on there maybe not even a reason to frontload however it is a good idea. then i agree with top dog however i no nothing about ure experience with AAS and i would say unless this is your 3rd course up those numbers could be a little high maybe front load first 2 weeks if you wanted with 1000mg test e then 500 a week their is no need to mix prop with it. the obiously ure pct when ure done

[Shankerr]

Thanks guys :) I'm a relatively experienced user, and I know how my body reacts to most testosterone esters. Although, this was my first time using deca.. pervious to this, I used a lot of EQ and tren in my cycles, but decided to give the deca a try, haha

So both you guys are recommending front loading, like I thought.. Sounds good

I just took a shot of 150mg prop with 250mg of deca.. so we'll see in a dozen hours how the effects of the test are coming along, haha


ANy more ideas?

[Shark]

There's no reason to frontload for two weeks, in fact, this will effectivly eliminate the benefits of frontloading since you're trying to achieve consistent test levels.

Frontload the first week at 500 or 600 per shot (whichever you choose) and then keep shooting at 250 or 300 per shot for the rest of your cycle. There is no need for prop.

[thetopdog]

You're not going to feel the prop in 12 hours, or even in 48 hours probably. It takes a while with your test levels at a certain point before you can 'feel' anything

[Shankerr]

Just to clarify.. I'm not looking to "feel" it as in strength, or pumps or whatever. At this point, I'm looking to feel it as in slightly less emotional and what not. Having a 0 test level for a coupla weeks will do this to a guy, haha.

Already I'm noting that I'm considerably less pissy that I have been. My body is weird though, I tend to see results ahead of schedule with almost any AAS that I use.

[thetopdog]

Even the emotional part will take a while I think, but if you belive it's working, it will help mentally

[Shankerr]

haha thats always a big part ;)

[tony touch]

i think i remember that lab, it was canadian rite? sucks.

[Shankerr]

haha yeah it was a Canadian UG lab :) I guess they went out of business right around the time I got my last batch over the summer.