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Reinier
01-11-2002, 09:16 AM
Could you please fix me a cutting diet for a 52 yr old woman who doesn`t train?

shes like 170 lbs, 5"8.

i suppose it would have like 6 meals and many complex carbs?

could you guys give me any suggestions?

Reinier
01-11-2002, 09:16 AM
what do you think her maintenance level could be?

gino
01-11-2002, 09:23 AM
Eat less, more frequently, and walk more. My grandmother lost 30 lbs doing this.

TreeTrunks
01-11-2002, 09:24 AM
1669 is her maintenace level

Tryska
01-11-2002, 09:25 AM
and stay away from the nutter butters.

and other processed foods.

i bet if she just cleaned up her diet a bit and followed what gino says she should see some results.

not as much as if she were to trian alongside, but still.

gino
01-11-2002, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by TreeTrunks
1669 is her maintenace level

lol

Reinier
01-11-2002, 09:30 AM
cmon, seriously what could be her her maintenance level?

i know you cant say too precisely, but you could be in a range of 500 or so to it at lleast i suppose. 2500?

TreeTrunks
01-11-2002, 09:30 AM
hehehehe, I love playing around with formulas.:D

Reinier
01-11-2002, 09:32 AM
do you guys think eca would be anything safe/effective in this situation?

TreeTrunks
01-11-2002, 09:32 AM
no really its 1669. take he BW divide it by 2.2 then take that number and multiply it by 0.9 (1 for males) and take that number and multiply it by 24.

170/2.2*0.9*24=1669

Tryska
01-11-2002, 09:40 AM
i honestly don't believe a female should go below, at most 1800 cals while cutting, and 2000 as a maintenance level.

Reinier
01-11-2002, 09:43 AM
fitness.com has this maintenance level test and it says 2100.

Reinier
01-11-2002, 09:45 AM
alright so i want a diet of 2000 kcals for her. see what her weight does, and change if needed.

*reminds yall he posted an eca question above*

what should the macro % be since shes not training or needs as much protein probably as us young lifting folks do.

Tryska
01-11-2002, 09:54 AM
why not give a 40/30/30 a shot?

what eca question?

Tryska
01-11-2002, 09:54 AM
incidentally...tree trunks....are you sure that formula is for maintenance and not BMR?

ericg
01-11-2002, 10:00 AM
What does she eat now?? If its crap or only 1-3 times a day...take Gino's advice...then when the fat loss stalls u can figure out the cals and take it from there. Just clean it up, eat more often, and take a walk....like gino said. Baby steps!!

Reinier
01-11-2002, 10:08 AM
she often skips breakfast and doesn`t eat till like 1pm. very evil indeed.

i asked if eca would be safe/effective in this case.

Tryska
01-11-2002, 10:11 AM
have her get the basics of proper nutrition down first as well as moving about a bit. then if that doesn't work MAYBE think about going the eca route, but not until AFTER a doctor has checked her CV health out first.

Reinier
01-11-2002, 10:30 AM
cv= cardiovascular in this case?

Tryska
01-11-2002, 10:35 AM
word.

definitely not her curriculum vitae.

TreeTrunks
01-11-2002, 10:53 AM
BMR, pretty much the samething isn't it since the person is not active?

Tryska
01-11-2002, 10:57 AM
NO.

basal metabolic rate (BMR) is the amount of calories needed to keep the machine whirring if it's lying in a coma.

active metabolic rate (AMR) would be closer to the nutrtional requirements for someone who is relatively sedentary, but not a vegetable.

gino
01-11-2002, 10:58 AM
I like broccoli

Reinier
01-11-2002, 11:01 AM
so you guys think goin with 2000 for trying is ok?

40/30/30 eyh?

Tryska
01-11-2002, 11:04 AM
give it a shot. it's sane, it's low key, hopefully it will work. if it doesn't then play around with the macro percentages a bit, or try fibrous over starchy carbs, next.

Reinier
01-11-2002, 03:17 PM
the initial idea of this thread was that somebody would make me a diet, since i suck at it and dont roughly know what things contain like some of you.

could somebody give me a try for a 2000 kcal, 6 meal, 40/30/30 diet?

Tryska
01-11-2002, 05:19 PM
hell no.

you should know by now we don't spoonfeed here. you've got the basics. here's your chance to do the research and learn how to put a diet together. we can critique it once you come up with something, but you gotta do it on your own.

tell you what...i'll even give you this little bit of help:

http://www.cyberpump.com/features/nutrimuscle/lyle005.html

Reinier
01-12-2002, 07:07 AM
mm thanks but most the stuff on there i already know.

got any links to sites that have nutritional values of common foods?

i saw one before but lost the link.

mesmall
01-12-2002, 07:17 AM
http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl
...there you go now...:)

Jane
01-12-2002, 08:28 AM
Why not first have her tell you what kinds of foods she already eats/likes and work from there? No use putting steak or broccoli in a diet plan if she despises red meat and most vegetables. Work with basics, eggs, poultry, fish, veggies, fibre rich grains, a lil dairy, etc. Good luck :)

the doc
01-12-2002, 09:23 AM
i agree on not worrying about the type of diet.

Just get her eating 4-6 meals/ day of good whole food. None of that refined crap. Walking for 30-40 min 2-4 times/week.
Its not like she's trying to get ripped right?

by the way i have a CV... lol

Reinier
01-12-2002, 10:13 AM
now i got a 6 meal 2025 kcal, 40/30/30 diet with WW bread, dairy,
lean meat, some peanuts and some soy....