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Aries3x
02-16-2006, 05:15 PM
We all know alcohol inhibits protien synthesis. But can anyone tell me where to find more information on it? Being a college student at a party school i'm not going to stop drinking, even though I have managed to cut back.

Can the consumption of protien be done early enough before the alcohol drinking so it is all synthesized by the time you start drinking? How long does the whole syntesis process take, and at what point in that does the alcohol inhibit it? Or does the alcohol continue to inhibit the synthesis long after you are sober? (as into the next day)

Where are the scientific journals on the subject?

Buzzsaw
02-16-2006, 06:33 PM
This thread from the Diet & Nutrition forum might help:

http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=74888

MJS
02-17-2006, 01:36 AM
Aries, I am in your same shoes. In fact I have a thread very similar to this that might have some of the answers that you are looking for: http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=74888

In short, alcohol will negate protein synthesis and there is not much that you can do about it. Believe it or not, a pint of beer actually stays in your system for 8 hours, even though the buzz is gone after one. Which means that if you drink fairly hard, which I am sure that being a college student, you have done once or twice, your protein synthesis is halted.

What I would recommend. Train really hard Mon-Thurs. Try not to drink until friday night if possible (I know Thursdays are big nights) and just don't get obliterated. While drinking remain as hydrated as possible. I sometimes even go out of the room to down a couple glasses of water in between beers. Yes, you still get drunk. This way your body has a solid two days before hitting they gym hard on Monday again. If you get a good split going this is definitely managable. This is the only "way around it" and I am cautious when I say that because drinking is still going to have negative effects on your gains - that's impossible to beat. Hope this helps.

MJS
02-17-2006, 01:37 AM
This thread from the Diet & Nutrition forum might help:

http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=74888

Sorry Buzz, I should have checked your link first - I duplicated it.

TheGimp
02-17-2006, 02:49 AM
IIRC it takes an hour to metabolise a unit of alcohol. Do some simple math and you can work out how long it should take for the alcohol to metabolise and protein synthesis to resume.

MJS
02-17-2006, 04:01 AM
Although a unit of alcohol is metabolized in an hour, its effects can still be felt long after - hence the long hangover after only 8 drinks. It depends a lot on BAC. Also, protein synthesis doesn't start as soon as alcohol is metabolized. Another suggestion is to take a multivitamin prior to going to bed, because alcohol strips you (poisions you) of all your nutrients.

Paul Stagg
02-17-2006, 07:30 AM
I've said this before. You need to take a look at your priorities. You also need to weigh the actual effects of alcohol on you.

If you train, eat right, and have a few cocktails, you'll be fine. If you have a twin, and they don't drink at all, there will be little if any difference in your physique and performance.

A college kid is a little different, because it's more than a few cocktails, and it will probably have a slight negative effect. You have to weight that slight negative effect on the value you place on consuming large quantities of your beverage of choice.

There is no need to become a celibate no drinking hermit in college unless you are also a very, very, very high level athlete.

Enjoy yourself, don't be stupid, and train your ass off, and manage your diet. You'll be just fine.

MJS
02-17-2006, 08:00 AM
Well said.

DumbDude
02-17-2006, 09:20 AM
I usually workout Mon-Fri and only drink on saturday night. No more than 6 light beers. It is hard to say no to a beer but 6 days of the week I do :cool:

Aries3x
02-17-2006, 10:56 AM
Thanks for the links, i'm surprized I missed that thread. I do have fairly good control of how much I drink, and I have no real problem turning down a drink. I only really drink on fri or sat, so I'll be able to work my routine around it. Planning your workouts around the nights you drink is a little backwords though heh.

Shao-LiN
02-17-2006, 05:21 PM
Personally, I never did. I just followed my routine, and if I happened to decide to go out with some friends and get smashed for a night, oh well. I didn't drink weekly, though. Was like once every 2 weeks or so.

person22
02-20-2006, 08:57 AM
i drink everynight, infact i probably have a drink problem but im lucky as i dont put on fat at all and drinking doesnt affect my working out at all, ive still got a better body than anyone i know, just get your priorities right i guess, as sad as it may sound to u drinking is one of my favourite things and i wouldnt give it up for a better body. doesnt mean im not dedicated to body building cause i am, i just like to have fun too, i also smoke and occasionally take cocaine but someone once said a real tradgedy is going to your grave with a healthy body, i tend to agree.

person22
02-20-2006, 08:58 AM
just realised im new here and that post isnt gonna make me any friends !! people on body building forums always go so pissed off when i say alcohol doesnt do anything to my work out,

DumbDude
02-20-2006, 09:19 AM
doesnt mean im not dedicated to body building cause i am. You can have your beer, cigs, coke.. but you cant have our damn dedication too!:bash:

MJS
02-20-2006, 09:26 AM
did some research. Results surprising. Although it only takes one hour to metabolize a unit of alcohol (some argue 4), it takes a FULL 8 hours MINIMUM to purge the body of all of the chemicals added to spirits/beers. That is just for ONE unit. Although you may not feel the effects of alcohol the next day, your body is suffering. I am now trying to limit my drinking to 1 night a week - and definitely not a night before a big lift.