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silentdragonx
03-09-2006, 06:01 PM
After reading a few threads a few minutes ago. I remembered an episode of (NFL)Giants pregame show, they stated that runningback Tiki Barber could squat 1000 lbs. Is that humanly possible? On wbb i have never anyone claim they can squat 800+ so 1k possible?

Stumprrp
03-09-2006, 06:07 PM
he deffinatly didnt, i believe it was a 900 leg press and 600 squat.

Isaac Wilkins
03-09-2006, 06:12 PM
In the powerlifting world 1000 lb squats are becoming common.

Tiki Barber didn't do it, however.

silentdragonx
03-09-2006, 06:23 PM
oh ok...but people actually can squat 1k? wont that damage your back? joints?

WBBIRL
03-09-2006, 06:40 PM
I would like to think that the people who CAN do it dont do it more then once or twice yearly. I would like to think it would take several days to weeks to recover from that load on your CNS.

On this years past WSM the winner of it all nailed the heaviest beer keg squat which I think was over 900lbs, considering even that... he started at 400-500 something and worked up over several reps to the 900+ which he flat out nailed.


Its VERY possible, just VERY improbable

WBBIRL
03-09-2006, 06:41 PM
It would be very hard on your joints and body in general. I bet when the marius guy gets into his later years he will endure incrediable pain from his career in the strongman sport.

Isaac Wilkins
03-09-2006, 06:47 PM
I would like to think that the people who CAN do it dont do it more then once or twice yearly. I would like to think it would take several days to weeks to recover from that load on your CNS.

On this years past WSM the winner of it all nailed the heaviest beer keg squat which I think was over 900lbs, considering even that... he started at 400-500 something and worked up over several reps to the 900+ which he flat out nailed.


Its VERY possible, just VERY improbable


Some of the Westside guys have 800-1100 on their back nearly every week.

Powerlifting is gut-check sport.

Stumprrp
03-09-2006, 06:49 PM
WBB you are right marius did do the squats no problem and it was below parallel also.

silentdragonx
03-09-2006, 06:59 PM
wow 1k squatters ...those guys got some cohones

drew
03-09-2006, 07:33 PM
Jeff Lewis squatted a new WR 1212 at the Arnold this past weekend. Previous record was 1200 by Mike Miller. Chuck Vogelpohl has squatted over 1000 at 220lbs.

Hazerboy
03-09-2006, 07:41 PM
Yeah, but aren't most of these guys using squat suits? Whats the largest rawww squat?

What about the guy in WSM? I think i've seen them use knee wraps, but what about squat suits?

drew
03-09-2006, 07:46 PM
A squat is a squat. Try on a squat suit sometime, and tell me it's easier.

khari
03-09-2006, 07:48 PM
Yeah, but aren't most of these guys using squat suits? Whats the largest rawww squat?

What about the guy in WSM? I think i've seen them use knee wraps, but what about squat suits?


No one in WSM uses squat suits. As for the strongest raw squatter, I'll throw in Rezazadah Hussein for that one, considering he can front squat over 700lbs IIRC.

ArchAngel777
03-09-2006, 08:00 PM
A squat is a squat. Try on a squat suit sometime, and tell me it's easier.

Drew... Lets pretend your statement above is correct. Only an idiot would squat with a suit... Right? Yet this is not the case.

Just in case someone here isn't sure of what I am saying. Drew's statement above is very far off base. Squat Suits + Wraps + Belt = Much more weight. If this were not the case, no one would use them.

Also, all squats are not the same, contrary to your statement above. Some of above parallel, some below and some right at. There is a huge difference between them.

But, I think Drew was pretty much saying is not to knock these guys for using equipment, because they are strong. And I totally agree that they are strong, but the truth is, a good portion of that weight is assisted by gear.

dubdoob
03-09-2006, 10:02 PM
Jeff Lewis squatted a new WR 1212 at the Arnold this past weekend. Previous record was 1200 by Mike Miller. Chuck Vogelpohl has squatted over 1000 at 220lbs.i did that. it added 100 lbs. to my squat.

Bohizzle
03-10-2006, 10:30 AM
i did that. it added 100 lbs. to my squat.
?:scratch:

ElPietro
03-10-2006, 11:17 AM
A squat is a squat. Try on a squat suit sometime, and tell me it's easier.

Ummm...of course a squat suit will improve your squat. I don't see how you can think otherwise. Same premise as a bench shirt.

SW
03-10-2006, 11:49 AM
What Drew means, yet none of you can see, is that until you learn how to use one properly and get plenty of practice with one, it's a bitch to even squat with a suit what you did raw. Without practice and patience, a suit will yield nothing.

ArchAngel777
03-10-2006, 11:54 AM
What Drew means, yet none of you can see, is that until you learn how to use one properly and get plenty of practice with one, it's a bitch to even squat with a suit what you did raw. Without practice and patience, a suit will yield nothing.

Whether or not he meant that does not change the fact that the Squat Suit + Wraps + Belt = 1212 Squat. Take those away and you will no longer have a 1212 squat. Do you not agree with that statement?

It takes skill to learn anything, that should have been a "given", as in, something not needing to be expressed.

Additionally, in the way he made the statement was to imply that the 1212 squatter could have done more if he didn't have his squat suit. That is absurd...

SW
03-10-2006, 12:05 PM
He didn't say it wouldn't help. He said it isn't easier to do.

ArchAngel777
03-10-2006, 12:08 PM
He didn't say it wouldn't help. He said it isn't easier to do.

Based on the context, I don't think you can seperate the term "easier" and "help".

Davidelmo
03-10-2006, 12:17 PM
Either way, it's still insane! :o

drew
03-10-2006, 12:21 PM
I never meant to say that a suit doesn't help you to squat more, it does. All I was saying is, it doesn't make it easier. It's damn hard to learn to use a squat suit, and I think it's unfair to take anything away from the lift because it was damn hard to get to that point.

As far as powerlifting is concerned, a squat is a squat.

ArchAngel777
03-10-2006, 12:22 PM
I never meant to say that a suit doesn't help you to squat more, it does. All I was saying is, it doesn't make it easier. It's damn hard to learn to use a squat suit, and I think it's unfair to take anything away from the lift because it was damn hard to get to that point.

As far as powerlifting is concerned, a squat is a squat.

Now this I completely agree with, every word.

silentdragonx
03-10-2006, 01:08 PM
strange... I thought I had made a thread about Tiki Barber not about squat suits lol

ArchAngel777
03-10-2006, 01:24 PM
strange... I thought I had made a thread about Tiki Barber not about squat suits lol

ROFLCOPTER

puny_ectomorph
03-10-2006, 07:43 PM
Paul Anderson is supposed to have squatted 1,200 in the 50s. There's a lot of speculation, however, about whether it really was to parallel and what the weight actually was. Still, the guy was a monster.

-p-

levronefan
03-10-2006, 10:19 PM
for me personally i have never EVER heard of a 700+ lb raw atg back squat. i dont mean well below parallel, im talking 3-4 inches from touching the floor.... as a matter of fact i dont know of any 600 lb atg raw squats.

drew
03-11-2006, 12:39 AM
I'm sure Dr. Hatfield has done at least 700 ATG.

khari
03-11-2006, 01:02 AM
for me personally i have never EVER heard of a 700+ lb raw atg back squat. i dont mean well below parallel, im talking 3-4 inches from touching the floor.... as a matter of fact i dont know of any 600 lb atg raw squats.


Here's Aranda back squatting over 640lbs for a double only days before a major competition. And he weighs only 77kg

http://www.swt.bz/exercices/squat/idalberto-aranda.jpg

body
03-11-2006, 04:43 AM
tom platz may have done.
seen some footage of that is very impresive, but not sure if he did 700 ATG

SW
03-11-2006, 06:40 AM
I'm sure Dr. Hatfield has done at least 700 ATG.

Please, you're embarassing me.

Rex
03-11-2006, 06:44 AM
for me personally i have never EVER heard of a 700+ lb raw atg back squat. i dont mean well below parallel, im talking 3-4 inches from touching the floor.... as a matter of fact i dont know of any 600 lb atg raw squats.

Search this forum for videos of Charakov and Tournefier.

ArchAngel777
03-11-2006, 11:03 AM
Please, you're embarassing me.

This made my laugh out loud so much... My wife had to come and ask me why I was laughing... Good humor... :D

levronefan
03-11-2006, 12:38 PM
there is such a big difference between an atg squat and a parallel squat, any videos of a 600 +lb squat?

russianwol
03-11-2006, 06:27 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3977397740488486138

Also search "squat" on video.google.com

FOGLE1
03-11-2006, 09:58 PM
A guy at my gym just last week did 1000 lbs on the leg press for three reps. That is the most weight I have seen someone lift with their legs in a while. I would love to see someone squat 1000.

levronefan
03-11-2006, 10:18 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3977397740488486138

Also search "squat" on video.google.com

that is not atg, not anywhere close...... some of the olympic lifting videos have 500 + lb front squats but not 600.....

Sensei
03-11-2006, 10:36 PM
that is not atg, not anywhere close...... some of the olympic lifting videos have 500 + lb front squats but not 600.....
No, it's a video of Dr. Squat (Fred Hatfield) squatting a grand to parallel w. his belt not even secured.

drew
03-12-2006, 12:04 AM
A guy at my gym just last week did 1000 lbs on the leg press for three reps. That is the most weight I have seen someone lift with their legs in a while. I would love to see someone squat 1000.
1000lb leg press is really no big deal.

khari
03-12-2006, 08:49 AM
that is not atg, not anywhere close...... some of the olympic lifting videos have 500 + lb front squats but not 600.....

If you can front squat 500 you can probably back squat 600. On a somewhat unrelated note, my coach has front squatted 500lb back when he competed.

Rex
03-12-2006, 09:16 AM
that is not atg, not anywhere close...... some of the olympic lifting videos have 500 + lb front squats but not 600.....

Can you read???

Search this forum for the videos of Charakov and Tournefier.

Goodwinm
03-12-2006, 02:39 PM
Heres a video of Marc Bartley sqauting 1068lbs (wow) lol. Still unbelieveble to watch.
http://www.southcarolinabarbell.com/marc1064.wmv Ok its not touching the floor but still majorly impressive!!

Insania.

Paul Stagg
03-12-2006, 04:00 PM
There is entirely too much ignorance on this board, sometimes.

Please drop the 'what a squat is' and 'cheater gear' discussions. Instead, man up and lift in a meet.

Stumprrp
03-12-2006, 04:36 PM
wow that guy marc blew that weight right up!

biggimp
03-12-2006, 08:06 PM
that is not atg, not anywhere close...... some of the olympic lifting videos have 500 + lb front squats but not 600.....



who cares? most people cant even get to your definition of 'atg' at 3'' off the ground anyways.

guess what, i have never seen somebody cgbp 900lbs, so every heavy bench press ever is null and void. :bash:

Guido
03-13-2006, 10:13 AM
Most people don't make nor post videos of ATG squats because most people only do them in the gym since you only have to go to parallel for meets. Thus, is it surprising that you haven't seen someone atg suqatting 700lbs? Doesn't mean it hasn't been done. In fact, I'm quite sure there are handful of people out there that can do it.

body
03-13-2006, 12:44 PM
i am with guido and bigpimp.

if people had to squat ATG on squats for powerlifting comps. the world record would be above 600 pounds

MixmasterNash
03-13-2006, 01:15 PM
Both of these things are insanely impressive...

http://www.ivanko.com/mw_archive/images/shane_hamman.jpg

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/040825/040825_hamman_hmed_2p.hmedium.jpg

Goodwinm
03-14-2006, 01:05 AM
Both of these things are insanely impressive...

http://www.ivanko.com/mw_archive/images/shane_hamman.jpg

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/040825/040825_hamman_hmed_2p.hmedium.jpg

duuude. What are the lifts here? 12 plates each side jesus christ. I couldnt even get 12 plates up at all lol

is the sqaut 1080lbs? and the one below about 500lbs?

khari
03-14-2006, 08:38 AM
duuude. What are the lifts here? 12 plates each side jesus christ. I couldnt even get 12 plates up at all lol

is the sqaut 1080lbs? and the one below about 500lbs?

The squat is just over 1000lbs, and the snatch, near as I can tell, is ~195kg (430lbs).

ArchAngel777
03-14-2006, 08:47 AM
duuude. What are the lifts here? 12 plates each side jesus christ. I couldnt even get 12 plates up at all lol

is the sqaut 1080lbs? and the one below about 500lbs?

Sounds about right except that those plates look thin compared to most 20.5kg plates I seen. But judging by the bar bending a ton, i'd have to say 1080 sounds about right.

Very impressive... It seriously makes me hurt to look at those... I'd break in two.

drew
03-14-2006, 09:24 AM
The first one is at least 925.

MixmasterNash
03-14-2006, 09:47 AM
The squat is just over 1000lbs, and the snatch, near as I can tell, is ~195kg (430lbs).
Correct. The first is Hamman's then-world record (for whatever PL assoc.) 1008lb squat. The second is of his snatch of 192.5 kilos (425-ish pounds) in Athens.

khari
03-14-2006, 09:54 AM
Correct. The first is Hamman's then-world record (for whatever PL assoc.) 1008lb squat. The second is of his snatch of 192.5 kilos (425-ish pounds) in Athens.

How could the snatch be less than 195? I count six 25s, two 10s, 20 for the bar and 5 for the collars = 195.

MixmasterNash
03-14-2006, 11:06 AM
I think the 10's may be 5's and there are some small kg-scale metal plates too.

khari
03-14-2006, 11:13 AM
I think the 10's may be 5's and there are some small kg-scale metal plates too.

Green Eleikos are definately 10s. I don't think 5kg bumpers are used anywhere but in training. At least not anywhere I've seen.

MixmasterNash
03-14-2006, 11:33 AM
Green Eleikos are definately 10s. I don't think 5kg bumpers are used anywhere but in training. At least not anywhere I've seen.
Ah, you are half correct!

He bombed on that lift, which was actually 197.5 (attempted twice), and here is the good 192.5 lift from
Gayle Hatch's site (http://www.gaylehatch.com/Olympics6.html).

Goodwinm
03-14-2006, 11:36 AM
thats such a massive weight! I still cant get over how these guys do it!

khari
03-14-2006, 12:47 PM
Ah, you are half correct!

He bombed on that lift, which was actually 197.5 (attempted twice), and here is the good 192.5 lift from
Gayle Hatch's site (http://www.gaylehatch.com/Olympics6.html).

I'll bet Shane and his trainers aren't too happy with that result, given that he completed 195 in Sydney in 2000.

ArchAngel777
03-14-2006, 12:51 PM
At first I thought hamman was just a wimp compared to his peers, but after learning that he was a Power Lifter first, and then later took up this sport, my respect soared much higher.

If he had started out with OL in the first place, I have no doubts he would have been in the top 5, instead of the top 10. Who knows, he might have even given Rezezedah a run for his money, or Weller, for that matter.

Whatever the case, the guy is old now. He was born in 1972, IIRC and is past his prime now. I think he retired last year?

G-Men
03-15-2006, 10:36 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/specials/preview/2005/08/02/nfl.workout.barber0808/

Tiki works out with 750 on one-rep sets.

drew
03-16-2006, 07:09 AM
If you saw the pic of his SSB squat, he's holding onto the cage, and probably using it to pull himself up. Not to say he isn't strong, but that's not the proper way to do a SSB squat.

i3igpete
01-05-2011, 08:04 AM
No one in WSM uses squat suits.

Sorry to bring back this really old thread, but I just noticed something this year and HAD to google it and see if anybody else noticed it. During the prelims for the 2010 WSM one of the competitors WAS wearing a squat suit during the static squat for reps event. It was very brief at the end of an interview, but i caught a glimpse of a suit as one of the competitors was taking off his t-shirt. It was either a metal or titan, i'm leaning towards titan though.

edit:
confirmed. travis ortmayer mentions suits it in his post on another forum.

Tom Mutaffis
01-05-2011, 08:46 AM
Sorry to bring back this really old thread, but I just noticed something this year and HAD to google it and see if anybody else noticed it. During the prelims for the 2010 WSM one of the competitors WAS wearing a squat suit during the static squat for reps event. It was very brief at the end of an interview, but i caught a glimpse of a suit as one of the competitors was taking off his t-shirt. It was either a metal or titan, i'm leaning towards titan though.

edit:
confirmed. travis ortmayer mentions suits it in his post on another forum

There were quite a few competitors who wore suits for the squat and deadlift in WSM 2010.

I would have to look back at some old videos but I believe that suits have been present in past competitions as well.

IronDiggy
01-05-2011, 08:54 AM
There were quite a few competitors who wore suits for the squat and deadlift in WSM 2010.

I would have to look back at some old videos but I believe that suits have been present in past competitions as well.

I was going to say they definitely are. I haven't watched WSM 2010 yet but previous ones you can see the suits just barely under their clothes.

JK1
01-05-2011, 09:14 AM
I was going to say they definitely are. I haven't watched WSM 2010 yet but previous ones you can see the suits just barely under their clothes.

I got into a very heated argument about the WSM competitors wearing supportive equipment a while back. You have to look really closely because they are wearing the gear under their shorts/shirts, but they are wearing gear and have been for more than a couple of years.

IronDiggy
01-05-2011, 03:06 PM
I got into a very heated argument about the WSM competitors wearing supportive equipment a while back. You have to look really closely because they are wearing the gear under their shorts/shirts, but they are wearing gear and have been for more than a couple of years.

I don't doubt it. I can't see why anyone wouldn't want to if it helps them be a better competitor.

JK1
01-05-2011, 04:42 PM
I don't doubt it. I can't see why anyone wouldn't want to if it helps them be a better competitor.

as long as its a fair playing field where everyone has an equal chance to wear the same equipment I dont' care.

The individual I was arguing with was an overly zealous diehard "powerlifting isn't powerlifting if you wear more than a belt" annoying dip**** person who was harping on how much stronger strong man competiters are because they don't wear gear... then he showed me a video of a competitor deadlifting in an inzer hardcore suit and tried to say the straps were some kind of a tank top and the guy only had compression shorts on under his shorts. I kinda went off at that. I started watching closely after that (when I watch strongman--which I don't do that often) and you can see quite a few events where briefs and suits are worn. Again, you really have to look for them because the comepitors may have on compression shorts with briefs over them, then shorts over the briefs. But if you look, they are there and have been for a while.

RhodeHouse
01-06-2011, 08:34 AM
HA! Strongmen are worse gear whores than powerlifters. They just cover it up with shorts and t-shirts. I saw a guy squat this year at WSM with rehband knees sleeves on and knee wraps over the top of the knee sleeves.

Derek Poundstone told Vincent and I he'd wear 2 squat suits if he could make them work. Of course they wear gear. All of them wear something. Even the great Kaz wore gear, it just wasn't as good as the stuff today. If he was lifting now, he'd be wearing the same stuff everyone else wears.

Tom Mutaffis
01-06-2011, 08:42 AM
HA! Strongmen are worse gear whores than powerlifters. They just cover it up with shorts and t-shirts. I saw a guy squat this year at WSM with rehband knees sleeves on and knee wraps over the top of the knee sleeves.

Warrick Brant is the competitor who you are thinking of, he wore the same sleeve/wrap combo for his 750 lbs front squat:

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JK1
01-06-2011, 11:38 AM
HA! Strongmen are worse gear whores than powerlifters. They just cover it up with shorts and t-shirts. I saw a guy squat this year at WSM with rehband knees sleeves on and knee wraps over the top of the knee sleeves.

Derek Poundstone told Vincent and I he'd wear 2 squat suits if he could make them work. Of course they wear gear. All of them wear something. Even the great Kaz wore gear, it just wasn't as good as the stuff today. If he was lifting now, he'd be wearing the same stuff everyone else wears.

Rhodes, you do realize that posting this is going to pop the little weasel heads of some of the diehard "strongman is true strength" people that annoy powerlifters who wear equipment.

But it is true....