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JLGoins41
03-26-2006, 08:51 PM
Hang clean and Full clean are two different lifts and my mind. At football we are allowed to max doing a hang clean for our powerclean. I choose to do hang clean because i can do much more weight so therfore, i will look better statistically.

In your opinion what are the pros and cons to each lift?

Bohizzle
03-26-2006, 09:14 PM
u can do more hang clean than full clean? ur doing something wrong. if u can do more power clean than full clean, ur doing something wrong.

Andrew

Jinkies
03-26-2006, 09:17 PM
Both lifts are practically similar, if you can hang clean more then you can power clean theres definianately something going on that shouldnt. The only reason to do hangcleans imo is to improve form on the powerclean, we do them in football to get used to dropping low and using more of a frontsquat to get the weight up thus improving your powerclean.

Bohizzle
03-26-2006, 09:29 PM
no, if u can powerclean more than any type of clean where u dip lower when u catch it, there is something wrong.

Bohizzle
03-26-2006, 09:29 PM
a hang clean is a full clean without the 1st pull.

Jinkies
03-26-2006, 09:31 PM
Your suppose to dip lower when you powerclean, you start with the weight flat on the ground. Thats the only difference between the two

JLGoins41
03-26-2006, 09:32 PM
maybe someone should elaberate on the different types of cleans its getting confusing :scratch:

JLGoins41
03-26-2006, 09:36 PM
last post was a little late, my bad

JLGoins41
03-26-2006, 09:42 PM
is the full clean not one fluid motion from the floor to the catch, and the hang clean is two pulls- one to the hanging postion and the other to the catch?

Bohizzle
03-26-2006, 09:47 PM
power clean - u do not drop below 1/4 or 1/2 squat (not sure on the exact height).
hang clean - u pull from the second pull (just above ur knees), and when u drop it down, u bring it to the same spot).
full clean - all three pulls, full squat, one fluid motion. this should be the heaviest of the three if technique is proper as u drop the lowest to catch, giving u more time, and u pull from the lowest, giving u momentum going into the second pull.

Andrew

Sidior
03-26-2006, 09:59 PM
:withstupi

Your suppose to dip lower when you powerclean, you start with the weight flat on the ground. Thats the only difference between the two

gah powerclean you dip less than a full clean

JLGoins41
03-26-2006, 10:00 PM
ok thank you

ArchAngel777
03-27-2006, 02:44 PM
No one has explained this clearly, so I will explain it.

Power Clean - Weight starts on the ground and is caught above parallel

Squat Clean (Also known simply as the "Clean" or "Full Clean") - Weight starts on the ground and is caught below parallel and in the front squat position. This technique allows people to pull about 20% more weight than a Power Clean.

Hang Power Clean - Starts at or slightly above the knees and is caught above parallel.

Hang Squat Clean - Starts at or slightly above the knees and is caught below parallel in the front squat position.

Clean Pull - Starts on the ground and is pulled as high as possible. The weight is not caught and you don't dip down. You simply fully extent and pull the weight as high as possible. Clean pulls are typically done with more weight than a squat clean. Helps the body get used to the weight without risking an injury.

That is pretty much all the cleans for the most part. It is my opinion that if you are using correct form that a Power Clean should be easier than Hang Power Clean. If you can Hang Power Clean more weight than you can Power Clean it means you either have really weak legs, or have craptastic form that will likely cause you injury at some point in the future.

khari
03-27-2006, 04:47 PM
As rare as they are, you left out the split clean.

ArchAngel777
03-27-2006, 04:59 PM
As rare as they are, you left out the split clean.

I consider that crude form and dangorious for all but the most experienced. But you are right, I should have mentioned the split clean.

BigRic
03-29-2006, 03:10 PM
I hang clean more than I can full clean only because I can dip further in a hang clean.

Anthony
03-29-2006, 03:19 PM
There are only two things you have to remember:

Hang = start from mid thigh.
Power = not a full squat.

ThatSkinnyGuy
03-29-2006, 09:51 PM
Figured the best thing to do is offer a visual aid or two. Mmm, hang power cleans. Trap action!

http://www.crossfit.com/cf-info/excercise.html

Joshua Davis
01-21-2007, 08:57 AM
All cleans are sums of the following movements:
1. First Pull
2. Second Pull
3. Dip
4. Rack

Even in a hang clean, you are slightly lowering the weight usually to the top or just under the knee to get momentum into your 2nd pull, so you still have a shortened first pull. The dip is the recovery before the rack, in a power clean, you'll dip much less before the rack, which means your 2nd pull will be much longer with farther extension.

The only time you'll truly miss the 1st pull is when you do an accessory movement that I just recently learned called a clean from full extension... basically doing a clean starting up on your toes with a full shrug at the top of the movement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og3fqNyMotI

I personally feel that for anyone starting out, hang cleans are excellent because they help prevent the bad habits of just ripping the barbell off the floor. Once you figure out the 1st pull/2nd pull technique, you'll manage much more weight in the lift than just performing one long pull.

Sensei
01-21-2007, 09:03 AM
The dip is the recovery before the rack, in a power clean, you'll dip much less before the rack, which means your 2nd pull will be much longer with farther extension.
Ideally, yes, but a lot of athletes never, ever get triple extension.

The only time you'll truly miss the 1st pull is when you do an accessory movement that I just recently learned called a clean from full extension... basically doing a clean starting up on your toes with a full shrug at the top of the movement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og3fqNyMotI
My father was an OLer and he taught me how to clean this way when I was 14. It worked then even though my OLs are atrocious now. I saw this post on P&B and thought it was great. Nice job.

Boris

borracho
01-29-2007, 10:55 PM
Clean Pull - Starts on the ground and is pulled as high as possible. The weight is not caught and you don't dip down. You simply fully extent and pull the weight as high as possible.


bumP! cuz i just discovered that I am doing clean pulls. :)

Joshua Davis
01-30-2007, 12:37 PM
bumP! cuz i just discovered that I am doing clean pulls. :)


A clean pull is basically a deadlift with a shrug at the top where you explode up at the top of the movement as if you were going to clean the weight. In this video, I do full cleans followed by clean pulls... watch when I get strapped in, those are clean pulls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9DPWZTj09Y


These are powercleans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us_HX9SMpgg

schmitty199
01-31-2007, 08:30 PM
Hang clean and Full clean are two different lifts and my mind. At football we are allowed to max doing a hang clean for our powerclean. I choose to do hang clean because i can do much more weight so therfore, i will look better statistically.

In your opinion what are the pros and cons to each lift?

sweet lord 100 pounds up on squat since football? thats like 2-3 months... steroids much?

thatasiankid
05-12-2009, 01:33 PM
No one has explained this clearly, so I will explain it.

That is pretty much all the cleans for the most part. It is my opinion that if you are using correct form that a Power Clean should be easier than Hang Power Clean. If you can Hang Power Clean more weight than you can Power Clean it means you either have really weak legs, or have craptastic form that will likely cause you injury at some point in the future.

1. Nearly everyone in my weight lifting room chooses the hang power clean over the power clean to max because it is easier.
2. I squat 335. I don't have overly strong legs nor do I have "really weak legs."
3. My form is pretty good.

Maybe it has to do with weight. Only one person in my weight lifting room cleans more than 300. But still, I find the hang clean easier than the power clean because the distance/movement is less. (I clean 265)

AJ_H
05-17-2009, 12:50 PM
1. Nearly everyone in my weight lifting room chooses the hang power clean over the power clean to max because it is easier.
2. I squat 335. I don't have overly strong legs nor do I have "really weak legs."
3. My form is pretty good.

Maybe it has to do with weight. Only one person in my weight lifting room cleans more than 300. But still, I find the hang clean easier than the power clean because the distance/movement is less. (I clean 265)

What I think he meant by weak legs was weak legs in relation to the upper body. How much do you bench and row?

olylifter05
04-25-2011, 08:53 AM
Hang clean and Full clean are two different lifts and my mind. At football we are allowed to max doing a hang clean for our powerclean. I choose to do hang clean because i can do much more weight so therfore, i will look better statistically.

In your opinion what are the pros and cons to each lift?

A clean is meant to be recieved in a full front squat position, no matter if it is hang or full. The term power refers to the receiving position. A hang clean is meant to be done from the knee to mid thigh and and received in the squat. A power clean is meant to be pulled just the same as clean but received in a higher position. It is not uncommon for someone to be able to hang clean more than they can clean especially if they have powerful hips and shoulders. High pulls have nothing to do with cleans, if you are using your arms to pull then you are doing them incorrectly.

Goll65
04-26-2011, 08:08 PM
I work with alot of high school athletes and they all seem to hang clean more than they power clean, I dont get it either. All I can figure is we train them to be explosive, I pesonally have no explosiveness at all but I am strong so cleaning from the floor gives me extra distance to build up speed, which is why I would think full cleans allow for more weight