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Naim
04-06-2006, 01:55 PM
I am trying to set long term goals for myself, long term as in 2-3 years. Though I know these goals are subject to change over time, but I want them to be realistic. I'm 175 cm (5'9) and 75 kg (165 lbs) and 23 years of age, I've been lifting for 5 months now. I don't have great genetics, natural strength etc. But I'm not and have never been a skinny guy either.
What should be the range of my long term goals in the big three? For example: Is targeting to bench 250 lbs in 2-3 years realistic for me?
What I'm saying is, can you suggest some decent poundage that I should be striving to attain? At what point genetics become a factor, hence the ultimate plateau?
I currently bench 121 lbs (55 kg) and squat 154 lbs (70 kg) for 7-8 reps. Just started deadlifts and working on form so I'm not lifting a lot there.

BaggedE30
04-06-2006, 01:58 PM
I hit 220lb bench in about 6 months with a diet solely consisting of sweets and chocolate..if i can do it anyone can. After 2-3 years id be aiming for around 300lb. Just make sure youve got your routine down to a tee

Skinny Fat
04-06-2006, 02:02 PM
:withstupi

300 lb is a nice milestone, and very doable for anybody who lifts with consistency, and doesn't have a serious injury/deformity to overcome.

Naim
04-06-2006, 02:07 PM
I see, what about for squats and deads? What do you suggest on those?

BaggedE30
04-06-2006, 02:52 PM
hmm, 450lb deadlift, 360 atf squat should be achievable

f=ma
04-06-2006, 03:07 PM
i want to hit 315/405/495 b/s/d at some point..

in all honesty, i dont really care about dead strength. i just want nice big quads to match a well shaped upper body

Eszekial
04-06-2006, 03:21 PM
i want to hit 315/405/495 b/s/d at some point..

in all honesty, i dont really care about dead strength. i just want nice big quads to match a well shaped upper body

I want to be able to punch people really hard.

BaggedE30
04-06-2006, 03:33 PM
I want to be able to punch people really hard.

take up boxing then

drew
04-06-2006, 03:40 PM
Powerlifting is about not putting limits on yourself. You can get as strong as you think you can. My current best lifts are 475/250/475 but my 3 year goals are 800/500/700. When I reach those, I'll reasess.

Just keep lifting and eat more.

Skinny Fat
04-06-2006, 04:01 PM
Since I'm not going to push myself to PL elite-ship, my personal goals (to be reevaluated when I get close to them) are:

315 bench (and 225x a very good number - I'm a football fan)
405 squat
495 (eh, make it 500) deadlift

3, 4, and 5 pps - those are nice, even numbers that a non-crazy person can achieve with hard work and commitment, I think. (and it puts me over 1200!) Eh, we'll see. :)

method115
04-06-2006, 04:03 PM
take up boxing then

alot of your punching power comes from your legs.

Naim
04-06-2006, 04:11 PM
drew,

Are you saying anyone who believes in it can break the world records in powerlifting or olympic weightlifting given enough time? I appreciate the wisdom of looking further ahead, but I always thought those individuals were somehow gifted. Am I wrong?

Skinny Fat
04-06-2006, 04:29 PM
You should do some reading - yes, a large percentage of pro athletes, powerlifters, Olympic weightlifters, etc. are genetically elite athletes who are gifted toward that line of work, but you'll always be able to find stories about the guys who were just too f'n stupid and stubborn to realize they wouldn't amount to anything. By working harder, eating better, and studying more than the genetically elite kids, they made it to the same place.

If you work hard enough, anything is possible. Period. If you want to squat 1000 lbs, you can. You just have to make it happen.

Gutz981
04-06-2006, 04:31 PM
^^^ this dudes right. Want it bad enough...its yours...just be prepared to make the sacrfices needed. Thats what its all about sacrifice...Can you handle it?

drew
04-06-2006, 04:44 PM
drew,

Are you saying anyone who believes in it can break the world records in powerlifting or olympic weightlifting given enough time? I appreciate the wisdom of looking further ahead, but I always thought those individuals were somehow gifted. Am I wrong?
That's exactly what I'm saying. It's like that saying - Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right.

There are some that are gifted. But even the most genetically gifted person can't get to world class status without a lot of hard work and dedication. I look at a guy like Chuck Vogelpohl. He's one of the best in the world. Do you think he ever imagined he would squat over 1100 and win the Arnold Classic? YOU BET HE DID! Do you think he ever imagined it would be easy? Not for a second.

Powerlifting is hard. I thought I'd have squatted 500 by now and be well on my way to 600. But then I wrecked my knee. And then I wrecked it again. I still plan to squat 600 this year, just gonna take more work. And that's what it's all about. Work harder, work smarter, learn more, and when it gets hard, work harder. When it gets painful, deal with it. And don't ever quit.

Skinny Fat
04-06-2006, 04:51 PM
Damn. I feel like hitting the gym right now - I'm inspired! :)

Naim
04-06-2006, 04:56 PM
I'm always up for reading :)
Can you refer me to some articles that you know of?

Anyway, my original question was help in determining 2 to 3 year goals. around 300/400/500 answered my question. Thank you very much on that.

But I feel compelled to say it again, what you can accomplish with discipline and determination should not be underestimated. But, there is a concept of potential. You can be a pro basketball player just by working hard enough. But you can't be Michael Jordan. All human beings are not created equal. I can't really understand when you say "anything" is possible. 5000 lbs squat is beyond anybody's potential. 1000 lbs may be beyond some of ours.

Clarification: I am in no way saying the best just accomplish things by genetics, they work their asses off to maximize their potentials, I'm just saying all things equal, some athletes will be better than others.

Naim
04-06-2006, 05:13 PM
Work harder, work smarter, learn more, and when it gets hard, work harder. When it gets painful, deal with it. And don't ever quit.

I will certainly take that advice, thank you. :)

Chris Rodgers
04-06-2006, 06:47 PM
drew,

Are you saying anyone who believes in it can break the world records in powerlifting or olympic weightlifting given enough time? I appreciate the wisdom of looking further ahead, but I always thought those individuals were somehow gifted. Am I wrong?



When I started strength training/powerlifting I had very -well below average strength. I am not big by any means and I wouldn't say I have great genetics. I have come a long way in the 3-4 years I have trained this way and can now compete very well with other drug-free lifters. I am not world-class, but I can and will definitely total elite in the APF in the near future, most likely in at least 2 weight classes. You can't really ask us what you might be lifting in 2-3 years. Your goals and training may change 1,000 times in that period. Just get to the gym and bust your ass and the gains will come. Most important, have fun with it. Strength training/powerlifting can be very rewarding by setting small goals to help reach the big ones.

Good luck with it and try and find some good training partners to spot and motivate you.

Clifford Gillmore
04-08-2006, 02:54 AM
I would like to get to 600/800/900.

I see myself at around 300/500/600 within 3 years.

brickt.
04-08-2006, 04:36 AM
I would like to get to 600/800/900.

My god, that would be insane. You would run out of plates in the gym.

Naim
04-08-2006, 05:37 AM
Heh, my gym is a so called "franchise gym." If anyone moved that kind of weight there the result would be a looong silence. :D

Clifford Gillmore
04-09-2006, 12:22 AM
In any kind of gym people would stare :)

Jinkies
04-30-2006, 04:17 PM
If im young and i lift with consistancy do yall think its possible i could ever break a 1000 squat?

KevinStarke
04-30-2006, 05:12 PM
With many years or training and some sweet gear, sure.

drew
04-30-2006, 06:45 PM
:withstupi

Guido
05-01-2006, 10:33 AM
I'd like to someday surpass a 500 bench, 700 squat, 700 deadlift at under 200 bodyweight. Once I attain that my goals will change and become even loftier. Near term I'd like a 350 bench, 500 squat, 550 deadlift, all raw. I think it's attainable within 2 years.

"Development ends where satisfaction begins."

KevinStarke
05-01-2006, 10:37 AM
By the end of the year im hoping for a 335 bench, 455 squat, and 500 deadlifting all RAW while weighing at most 180.