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WBBIRL
04-18-2006, 06:10 PM
So CC told me about this an said that organchiu (SP) went from like 36% BF to 12%BF in a year or so.

So I've heard Nitrean (or any low fat, low carb protein) is the way to go for PSMF and I think im going to order two tubs of nitrean next pay and see how that works. The only thing is... I cant eat 450g of protein a day because I cant afford that much. I could get 200 at max, and that would still cost me a bit.

Any ideas????

And does anyone have like a formal write up of how to do PSMF???

accuFLEX
04-18-2006, 06:12 PM
Psmf?

WBBIRL
04-18-2006, 06:24 PM
Protein Sparing Modified Fast????

Canadian Crippler
04-18-2006, 06:26 PM
Do you know your maintanence cals? PMDL recommended about 1.2xBW in protein, but something like 0.8xLBM in grams works well too. Do you know your BF%? I'm not too familiar with it, Organichu get your face in here!

WBBIRL
04-18-2006, 06:30 PM
I would have to guess 30%... so that would make it 200lbs or so LBM. I think I would be lean at 210-220 or so.

But 200G of protein per day would be ALL I could afford. And maintence is around 2500cals lol.

Canadian Crippler
04-18-2006, 06:36 PM
How much money do you have to spend on food?

Focused70
04-18-2006, 07:32 PM
Lyle McDonald on PSMF (http://www.wannabebig.com/article.php?articleid=213)

I did 3 cycles of PSMF from December 2005 to February 2006. Each cycle lasted roughly 2 weeks give or take a few days, with 1 to 2 week breaks in between. I went from 189 to 168, a 21 lb. loss. Probably 7-8 lbs. of that was fat, the rest water weight and some muscle. I dropped one full waist size. Also, my strength went down markedly, but I'm in the process of gaining that back now.

The funny thing about PSMF is that if you do it on a consistent basis, you get used to it. You get used to subsisting on less than 1200 calories a day (if that). Initially, it was pure hell....but after a week, I more or less got the hang of it.

As far as PSMF is concerned, remember that tuna, salad and water are your friends.

WBBIRL
04-18-2006, 07:53 PM
Well then I dont know about that... I have TONS of fat to lose... not 7-8lbs but 70-80lbs to lose. That would take like over 3 years this way which is way too long.

I couldnt make it on 1200 a day, I simply couldnt.

WBBIRL
04-18-2006, 07:55 PM
After reading half that artice... PSMF isnt for me...

Im not out to crash diet and I dont want to lose muscle mass. Ill just keep on the way I was

f=ma
04-18-2006, 07:58 PM
might want to reevaluate the way youre doing it if you plan to lose 70lbs in 7 months.. no offense bro, i'm just aware that youve been working at cutting some fat for a while now

Focused70
04-18-2006, 09:11 PM
some other people on this board have done PSMF for longer than 3 months and are quite successful at it. 1200 calories a day was my bench mark considering I'm not particularly heavy. you might consider reading Lyle's book in addition to doing a little more research into this diet before deciding whether it is or isn't for you.

Unreal
04-18-2006, 09:37 PM
I lost about 80lbs in 9 months. Losing fat is easy when your obese. It has only got hard once I got lean.

Organichu
04-18-2006, 10:32 PM
I actually went from like 36% to like 14% in less than half a year. :)

WBBIRL
04-19-2006, 06:43 AM
I dont wana crash diet, which lyle said PSMF was....

And I only lost fat weight when I stuck to my diet, which was from about january to the middle of march. Went from 325 to 295 then gained back up to 300 when I quit

Organichu
04-19-2006, 11:22 AM
I dont wana crash diet, which lyle said PSMF was....

And I only lost fat weight when I stuck to my diet, which was from about january to the middle of march. Went from 325 to 295 then gained back up to 300 when I quit

Well, do something. :thumbup:

monotone
04-19-2006, 02:47 PM
sounds more like a matter of will power than anything, you keep saying you "cant do it" and you also said you quit on a previous diet... so how about you stop quiting if you really want to lose the weight. your previous diet seemed to be working, go back to that and just dont quit

WBBIRL
04-19-2006, 05:31 PM
I know, it would just be nice if I had some extra cash for whey, multi vitamins, and some fish oil. I dont need any of that stuff but If I want to keep my muscle while I cut ill need to consume a good deal of protein... over 200G per day.

JustLost
04-19-2006, 05:47 PM
I know, it would just be nice if I had some extra cash for whey, multi vitamins, and some fish oil. I dont need any of that stuff but If I want to keep my muscle while I cut ill need to consume a good deal of protein... over 200G per day.

200g isn't all that hard to get. Just for an example:

8 oz 90% ground beef 46
1 quart skim milk 33
1 cup cottage cheese 31
1 can tuna 43
4 oz chicken breast 34
2 large eggs 12

199 grams of protien/1491 calories. And none of that stuff is very expensive. I assume you're already spending some money on some kind of food.

WBBIRL
04-19-2006, 06:43 PM
not really... I only make 260$ for a full time employment. If not for living at home I wouldnt even be on this site lmao.