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Roddy
04-26-2006, 08:14 PM
Just curious. I have been using Muscle Juice for about 4 weeks now, and the weigh scale hasnt moved a pound. lol

Anyone else seen this?

I typically eat between 3200-3500cals to maintain @ 182-185lbs.

So with the muscle juice i'm taking in about 4250-4550 cals

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
04-26-2006, 08:48 PM
If you're not gaining weight, eat more calories.

Sidior
04-26-2006, 11:28 PM
eat more....weight gainer is just food in powder form, do you understand this?

Roddy
04-26-2006, 11:37 PM
yep i do, thats why i'm taking it to get more calories in.

Sidior
04-26-2006, 11:42 PM
so why pose the question to begin with?

Shao-LiN
04-27-2006, 12:01 AM
Just curious. I have been using Muscle Juice for about 4 weeks now, and the weigh scale hasnt moved a pound. lol

Anyone else seen this?

I typically eat between 3200-3500cals to maintain @ 182-185lbs.

So with the muscle juice i'm taking in about 4250-4550 cals

Contrary to what some might believe, the name weight gainer does not mean that you will automatically become hyyooooooge because you're taking it. A weight gainer is a bunch of calories in a bottle. They typically consist of protein and a buttload of carbs. Some may throw extra supplements in there to make you feel better about your purchase, but when it comes down to it, all you are buying is protein and carbs, and maybe some fat.

Not "seeing results"? Means you aren't eating enough, plain and simple. Have heard some people say "but I'm taking a weight gainer!" All I can reply with is "so?" If I named a supplement instant muscle juice and threw protein and carbs in it, does it mean you will automatically gain weight? Depends. If the addition of those calories puts you over maintenance, then congrats, you'll probably gain weight. If not, then the calories you added aren't enough and you should add more.

I'm getting repetitive, but you get the point, hehe.

Blazin Civic
04-27-2006, 12:45 AM
Gainer shakes are a good supplement to a good diet. I take one a day to help me reach my calorie needs. It is easier to drink a 900 calories shake than have another 900 calories of solid food when taking in 4k+ calories a day.

smalls
04-27-2006, 02:24 AM
I lose weight when taking a weight gainer, when DIETING.

Total calories cause weight changes, not one meal, which is what a weight gainer is.

Holto
04-27-2006, 10:17 AM
Just curious. I have been using Muscle Juice for about 4 weeks now, and the weigh scale hasnt moved a pound. lol

Anyone else seen this?

I typically eat between 3200-3500cals to maintain @ 182-185lbs.

So with the muscle juice i'm taking in about 4250-4550 cals

Your not tracking cals accurately.

1) Track cals accurately
2) Increase cals each week until you start gaining

Risk10k
04-27-2006, 10:35 AM
Weight gainers are only good if you cannot physically eat anymore in one day. I mean, take a sample.

5 bowls of cereal + 8 egg and tomato ommlette
1lbs tuna and salad
1lbs rump steak and veggies
meal 4
meal 5
meal 6
etc.

The liquid cals are the easy extra bit to get down, it should go down after the building blocks are laid :) Try using your weightgainer as pre and post workout nutrition, with your post shake being mixed with dextrose and what everelse you prefer to supplement

Roddy
04-27-2006, 02:25 PM
Your not tracking cals accurately.

1) Track cals accurately
2) Increase cals each week until you start gaining

I track them on fitday...everyday.

I'm just surprised to see absolutly no weight gain.

ddegroff
04-27-2006, 02:28 PM
or your maintence cals are off, so your not eating enough.

DoUgL@S
04-27-2006, 04:58 PM
My weightgainer is food. I eat enough of it to gain weight.

If you are eating solid and liquid calories and not gaining weight, guess what your are not taking in enough. As has been said manytimes on the thread already, eat or drink more calories.

Just out of curiosity what does fitday say your daily cal intake is? At 185 you should be taking in around 3300-4000 calsories per day to gain. When you get the fitday number add 500-1000 calories per day and you should be set.

Eszekial
04-28-2006, 11:01 AM
All the delicious foods you could be eating, instead you take in weight gainers...

I just don't understand it.

Scarecrow
04-28-2006, 11:04 AM
Yeah, Twinlabs Super Mass Fuel did nothing for me!

smalls
04-28-2006, 12:24 PM
LOL. Oh the lack of comprehension.

Wild Cat McCane
04-28-2006, 01:23 PM
gawd are we dumb?

You didn't gain because you weren't eating enough in the first place.

PERIOD.

You will gain (on anything) once you eat over, not because a product is a weight gainer

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
04-28-2006, 04:36 PM
Yeah, Twinlabs Super Mass Fuel did nothing for me!Did you not read this thread? :windup:

Roddy
04-28-2006, 10:23 PM
i know i have to eat more, geez you guys.

But i spiked my daily calories from 3100 a month ago to 4350 cals on average according to fitday for the past 4 weeks

No gains

i think thats plain CRAZY

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
04-28-2006, 10:26 PM
But i spiked my daily calories from 3100 a month ago to 4350 cals on average according to fitday for the past 4 weeks

No gains

i think thats plain CRAZYThere are some folks in here that eat over 10,000 plus calories. You just need to gradually up your caloric intake until you start seeing gains again.

Scarecrow
04-28-2006, 10:30 PM
Did you not read this thread? :windup:

Yeah I did. Some guy asked "anyone used a weight gainer with zero results?" - So I answered "Yeah Twinlabs super mass fuel did nothing for me". Stop following me into every thread and trying to pick apart everything I say.

Holto
04-28-2006, 10:33 PM
Stop following me into every thread and trying to pick apart everything I say.

Start learning.

Holto
04-28-2006, 10:35 PM
i know i have to eat more, geez you guys.

But i spiked my daily calories from 3100 a month ago to 4350 cals on average according to fitday for the past 4 weeks

No gains

i think thats plain CRAZY

I see what you are saying.

Time to go to 5000.

Scarecrow
04-28-2006, 10:35 PM
Start learning.

I know my stuff thank you very much.

Holto
04-28-2006, 10:43 PM
I know my stuff thank you very much.

So why do you suppose the Twinlabs super mass fuel didn't work for you?

Scarecrow
04-28-2006, 10:45 PM
So why do you suppose the Twinlabs super mass fuel didn't work for you?

Because it was a piece of crap. I switched to N-Large and on the same diet gained.

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
04-28-2006, 11:19 PM
Because it was a piece of crap. I switched to N-Large and on the same diet gained.If you don't see the problem here then you don't know what you're talking about. If you weren't gaining weight before, that means you weren't taking in enough calories on top of the weight gainer to see gains. The problem here wasn't the supplement. It's because you weren't taking in enough calories. Do you track what you eat or do you just randomly eat food throughout the day in hopes of gaining weight?

Scarecrow
04-29-2006, 12:05 AM
If you don't see the problem here then you don't know what you're talking about. If you weren't gaining weight before, that means you weren't taking in enough calories on top of the weight gainer to see gains. The problem here wasn't the supplement. It's because you weren't taking in enough calories. Do you track what you eat or do you just randomly eat food throughout the day in hopes of gaining weight?

Yeah okay. So according to you all supps work its just you're not eating enough calories? lol okay. Believe it or not some weight gainers work better than others. You obviously have never tried different brands of it.

Im not about to take advice from a girl when it comes to bodybuilding either.

Sidior
04-29-2006, 01:15 AM
Yeah okay. So according to you all supps work its just you're not eating enough calories? lol okay. Believe it or not some weight gainers work better than others. You obviously have never tried different brands of it.

Im not about to take advice from a girl when it comes to bodybuilding either.

All supps do not work, all weight gainers do though as a weight gainer is just food. Saying some work better than others is like saying chicken works better for you than turkey. True some weight gainers may give you more quality cals that others for a similar price, but to say calories called Musclejuice work better than calories called MassTech is illogical and wrong.

Sidior
04-29-2006, 01:16 AM
this is true for any other weightgainer as well, including N-Large.

smalls
04-29-2006, 01:53 AM
lol okay. Believe it or not some weight gainers work better than others. You obviously have never tried different brands of it.

Im not about to take advice from a girl when it comes to bodybuilding either.


If each gainer has the same amount of calories, please explain how your body defies thermodynamics?

And where is Built when you need her. Girls are icky anyway, us men have to stick together in this manly bodybuilding business.


Is this the ****ing twilight zone or what.

Risk10k
04-29-2006, 02:33 AM
Im not about to take advice from a girl when it comes to bodybuilding either.


I think you should be banned for shear *****ing stupidity right now. Females can more than double what you can if you were in the same weight class. Females have more dedication to diet, more attention to training, they keep their ego at the door and they have just as much drive as any male.

Sidior
04-29-2006, 02:36 AM
:withstupi

and ya I'm sure as soon as getfit visits this thread again he will be toast

Scarecrow
04-29-2006, 07:27 AM
:withstupi

and ya I'm sure as soon as getfit visits this thread again he will be toast

On what grounds should I be banned? Everytime I say something half the forum crawls up my ass.

Davidelmo
04-29-2006, 10:01 AM
So if your maintenance cals were 3500kcal and you eat 3500kcal every day, you'd stay the same weight, right?

So you're saying that if you add 500kcal of twinlabs you won't gain, but if you add 500kcal of N-large, you will?

That's the sort of logic that people are disagreeing with.

Risk10k
04-29-2006, 10:31 AM
On what grounds should I be banned?

I'm pretty sure I said 'shear *****ing stupidity'.

I could of been mistaken, ya know.

sharkall2003
04-29-2006, 11:50 AM
Yeah okay. So according to you all supps work its just you're not eating enough calories? lol okay. Believe it or not some weight gainers work better than others. You obviously have never tried different brands of it.

Im not about to take advice from a girl when it comes to bodybuilding either.

Sorry, dude, but she has more credible posts than you will. You obviously don't know how to gain weight, becuase the brand of supplement hardly determines if you will gain weight. What's in the supplements will help with what you will gain, but the main determinent in gaining weight is how many calories you are taking in compared to how many you exert. Also, try to have respect for other members on the forum. You have less than one-hundred posts and you think you know a lot.

Sidior
04-29-2006, 11:55 AM
1. you will be banned on the fact that you have no respect for other members
2. you were already warned in another thread not to use personal insults
3. you used personal insults once again this time directed at women

at least that's my guess:D

Scarecrow
04-29-2006, 03:48 PM
You have less than one-hundred posts and you think you know a lot.

When did post count have anything to do with knowledge?

Scarecrow
04-29-2006, 03:49 PM
So if your maintenance cals were 3500kcal and you eat 3500kcal every day, you'd stay the same weight, right?

So you're saying that if you add 500kcal of twinlabs you won't gain, but if you add 500kcal of N-large, you will?

That's the sort of logic that people are disagreeing with.

I never said both the brands had the same amount of calories. Obviously the N-Large had more protein and calories which helped me gain weight.

Scarecrow
04-29-2006, 03:50 PM
1. you will be banned on the fact that you have no respect for other members
2. you were already warned in another thread not to use personal insults
3. you used personal insults once again this time directed at women

at least that's my guess:D

I only made that comment towards her because she acts as my shadow.

Holto
04-29-2006, 05:45 PM
I never said both the brands had the same amount of calories. Obviously the N-Large had more protein and calories which helped me gain weight.

So if you had two products with equal protein and calories is it possible that one would *work* better?

Bro, we all come here to learn. The problem is you don't even have a rudimentary understanding of how the human body works. Sure you are making progress in the gym. Sure you might know how to bulk and cut, but you don't know why what you do works or doesn't. You don't understand the physiology and biochemistry involved in the various processes that are pertinent to understanding nutrition and exercise.

We are giving you a hard time because you don't understand the underlying science and are giving out bad advice.

Ask yourself this question:

Did you go to university and earn a science degree?

All the folks here that have earned a degree or are working towards one seem to think you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

That would have to be one hell of a coincidence.

If you think you know you will never learn.

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
04-29-2006, 05:55 PM
Im not about to take advice from a girl when it comes to bodybuilding either.I must've missed this horrible post. You need to chill out. Horrible advice can be given from both genders and so can good advice. Gender is irrelevant.

Holto
04-29-2006, 06:03 PM
So are you a girl?

'cause if you are you are one hardcore bb'ing chica.

I thought Built and GetFit were the only ones...

.

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
04-29-2006, 06:04 PM
Are you talking to me, Holto? :scratch: I'm a DUDE.

Davidelmo
04-29-2006, 06:41 PM
I never said both the brands had the same amount of calories. Obviously the N-Large had more protein and calories which helped me gain weight.

You could have just taken more of the other one... you can't say it's crap because you didn't take enough of it to have an effect :scratch: :scratch:

Shao-LiN
04-30-2006, 07:10 AM
Because it was a piece of crap. I switched to N-Large and on the same diet gained.

Didn't read thru past this thread, so this probably got answered, but was there a difference in calories between the nlarge and this? Did you take a bigger dosage of nlarge compared to this? I think you're failing to understand that weight gainers are just extra calories in a bottle.

Matt04
04-30-2006, 08:02 AM
Im not about to take advice from a girl when it comes to bodybuilding either.

This has to be one of the most sexist remarks ive seen on this forum, you obviously have no idea what you are talking about and a great lack of respect for women.

Good luck in the big wide world buddy, you'll go far!

Holto
04-30-2006, 10:40 AM
Are you talking to me, Holto? :scratch: I'm a DUDE.


Yes but disregard, and I still think you are hardcore :thumbup:

Davidelmo
04-30-2006, 12:44 PM
Yeah I thought scarz was a girl too for a while.. it's the chick in the avatar and the WrItinG LiKe ThIs, sorry :P

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
04-30-2006, 01:46 PM
Yeah I thought scarz was a girl too for a while.. it's the chick in the avatar and the WrItinG LiKe ThIs, sorry :PI can't spice up my username? You'd rather I have normal letters and typos like other members? Psssh.


Yes but disregard, and I still think you are hardcore :thumbup:Thanks. ;)

Sidior
05-01-2006, 05:32 PM
and the chick is sexy:D

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
05-01-2006, 05:56 PM
:scratch:

Sidior
05-01-2006, 06:14 PM
ahahaha I like girls that smoke...um ya. Anyways I do realize she is like 8....

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
05-01-2006, 06:25 PM
She's not 8. It's from an anime. A weird anime.

Sidior
05-01-2006, 06:38 PM
ya I figured anime...and still 8 seems about right lol

what anime?

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
05-01-2006, 06:57 PM
FLCL is the anime. It's only 6 episodes. It's freaking trippy.

Adam
05-02-2006, 11:28 PM
Back on topic
:)

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
05-02-2006, 11:38 PM
Yeah, sorry about that.

ON_MY_WAY
05-07-2006, 01:04 PM
WHAT ARE YOU USING FOR A WEIGHT GAINER?
iM NO PRO, BUT i HAVE USED MUSCLE JUICE AND THAT STUFF WORKS..
AND iM one of those guys that doesnt gain weight that easily,

my goal is 195 by the end of June,
Iam 6'3 feet tall

Holto
05-07-2006, 01:14 PM
WHAT ARE YOU USING FOR A WEIGHT GAINER?
iM NO PRO, BUT i HAVE USED MUSCLE JUICE AND THAT STUFF WORKS..
AND iM one of those guys that doesnt gain weight that easily,

my goal is 195 by the end of June,
Iam 6'3 feet tall

Weight gainers can't work or not work.

You missed some really important info in this thread.

If you're not gaining weight, eat more calories.


eat more....weight gainer is just food in powder form, do you understand this?


Contrary to what some might believe, the name weight gainer does not mean that you will automatically become hyyooooooge because you're taking it. A weight gainer is a bunch of calories in a bottle.

Not "seeing results"? Means you aren't eating enough, plain and simple.


I lose weight when taking a weight gainer, when DIETING.

Total calories cause weight changes, not one meal, which is what a weight gainer is.

235orbust
05-07-2006, 02:26 PM
people always think that protein shakes/weight gainers are just like cell tech or animal pak, where you just take them once or twice a day and your set. gainers just help "fill holes" in your diet, but if you dont know how many calories are in your diet aka you dont track your calories, it is borderline futile to use shakes. I say borderline because in all acuality without it you would probably be losing weight right now.you will always see results with shakes if you know what your doing, unless you buy some really cheap horrible protein. you might gain 5 pounds or 50 pounds with it, depending on your knowledge on nutrition