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Eszekial
05-05-2006, 03:56 PM
I'm not a power lifter by any means but I do very much enjoy and endear the thought of having massive strength :bash:

As of now I can bench Press 255 4 (maybe 5) times.

I haven't done my 1 rep max yet.

205 6'1 19. Anywhere from 12-14% body fat.

My goal is to be able to do 300 for 5 reps.

What's your current bench press goal?

KevinStarke
05-05-2006, 04:01 PM
Current 1RM = 320
205 x 21
260 5x5

1RM Goal = 335

160 5'3.5" 18. Anywhere from 10-15% body fat.

getfit
05-05-2006, 04:03 PM
i've benched 165x1, i'm not to bothered with bench anymore

Clifford Gillmore
05-05-2006, 04:14 PM
Thats huge syl!



My goal is in my sig, if I c an hit everything in the 250 class I would be heppi.

getfit
05-05-2006, 04:16 PM
it was Risk,trust me i saw stars for like an hr after that

Patz
05-05-2006, 04:47 PM
If I ever starts me a bulk, I'd like to get 315 within 6 months. That'll be a first goal..

Eszekial
05-05-2006, 04:51 PM
The call of having 3 45's on each side allures to me!

Oh elusive 315, i shall bench thee.

KevinStarke
05-05-2006, 04:52 PM
250 class

242 Class?


The call of having 3 45's on each side allures to me!

Its only cool until you get it, then its just 3 plates :(

HeavyBomber
05-05-2006, 05:05 PM
500 raw

Meat_Head
05-05-2006, 06:44 PM
The call of having 3 45's on each side allures to me!

Oh elusive 315, i shall bench thee.

:withstupi

I'd love to hit 315 as well. As for a lifetime goal, 500lbs would be AWESOME

Maki Riddington
05-05-2006, 06:46 PM
135 right now for reps.

SkinnySadMan
05-05-2006, 06:58 PM
A goal right now for me is 1.5x bodyweight, which would be 205 lbs.

Long Term? 2x Bodyweight for me, so regardless of my weight gain/loss (Oh god, no more weight loss) I'll just make adjustments. Right now it's at 270 lbs. x1

Weekly goals? Add 5 lbs. to my sets after each week. It was all good until I injured both my wrists.

crunkdizzle
05-05-2006, 07:14 PM
my 1RM is 275 now, i would love to get 315 by mid/late summer

D Breyer
05-05-2006, 07:20 PM
My bodyweight by end of summer (185)

Stumprrp
05-05-2006, 08:27 PM
now im at a horrible 245, id like to get 315 once i start bulking or just eating more, 405 raw at 220 ish is my total goal.

Lothar
05-05-2006, 09:00 PM
Three plates used to look so cool. I remember when my max was stuck for a year around 285, and those extra 30 pounds just seemed out of reach. The 3 plates end on end looked huge. But now, with my max at 355, anything less than 3 just looks sad. Add into that 4 and 5 plate squats and deadlifts, and two plates + extras just isn't impressive anymore. My current long term goal is 405, and the four plates just looks like a ton, but that might become unimpressive too, someday.

K.Huget
05-06-2006, 01:16 AM
I will hit 315 by summer 2007

Clifford Gillmore
05-06-2006, 01:53 AM
242 Class?



Its only cool until you get it, then its just 3 plates :(

Brainfart, 275. The hell did 250 come from :/

drew
05-06-2006, 08:49 AM
Current 1RM = 320
205 x 21
260 5x5

1RM Goal = 335

160 5'3.5" 18. Anywhere from 10-15% body fat.
Your goal should be 500 or more.

My goal is still 300 :D
But seriously, I'd like to bench 500 (In 3 years).

KevinStarke
05-06-2006, 08:52 AM
Haha I wish, staying at my current weight my RAW strength in the bench press will remain very limited, I mean look how long it took me to get 5 more lbs on my bench after shooting to 315 and then getting stuck at it. With one of these super shirts Im sure I could have 500 in a few years.

KingJustin
05-06-2006, 10:25 AM
Life-long goal is 425. I'd like to hit 335ish by the end of the summer, though.

Lothar
05-06-2006, 02:41 PM
Your goal should be 500 or more.

My goal is still 300 :D
But seriously, I'd like to bench 500 (In 3 years).

Shirted?

drew
05-06-2006, 03:00 PM
Yes. I think with my shoulders, I'll never bench much without a shirt.

dw06wu
05-06-2006, 03:16 PM
I hope to compete someday if I can ever get my BF under 10%. I'd probably shoot for 400 raw for my first meet.

drew
05-06-2006, 04:04 PM
Why would you want to decrease your bf to compete in PL?

Nik00117
05-06-2006, 04:04 PM
225 at 200 LBs...

KevinStarke
05-06-2006, 05:12 PM
I hope to compete someday if I can ever get my BF under 10%. I'd probably shoot for 400 raw for my first meet.

How would decreased your BF make you wanna go to a PL meet?

WBBIRL
05-06-2006, 05:41 PM
Id have to say that my benchpress goal is 405x5 before im 23 and 505x5 before im 25. I dont care to go much above 500lbs... if I ever even get that far, but 500lbs is alot of weight and I dont want to screw my body up. Its a hell of a mountian to tackle, considering my personal best was 335x1 about 9 months ago. Currently I can get 275x3 atleast so im creeping back up to where I was and think I could bench 385 before the years out.

HeavyBomber
05-06-2006, 05:49 PM
505x5? wow

KevinStarke
05-06-2006, 06:37 PM
Getting to 400 is one thing WWBIRL but getting to 500 is a whole other world man it'll take alot longer than 2 years without the use of drugs.

HeavyBomber
05-06-2006, 07:15 PM
Even with drugs... roids aren't magic. and it's 505x FIVE!

Chris Rodgers
05-06-2006, 08:07 PM
How would decreased your BF make you wanna go to a PL meet?


Because after he hits a big bench he wants to tear his shirt off and flex. :thumbup:


I want to start getting back to serious top-end work for my bench and get it up over 400 in the shirt @ 165. If I pull my head out of my ass I should be able to do that within a year.

Scarecrow
05-06-2006, 10:12 PM
I've benched 330lbs, so my goal is to get up to 400lbs I guess

Canadian Crippler
05-06-2006, 11:25 PM
My long term goal is 405. I'm pretty confident I'll get there eventually.

Alex.V
05-07-2006, 12:48 AM
495/500 raw, which is about 40 pounds away and should be pretty damn doable in less than a year.

Shirted... I don't know. Have to try it first. :)

mikesbytes
05-07-2006, 04:31 AM
I've seen a guy bench 600lbs back in 1980. His tricep muscles kind of curved between the elbow and the shoulder and looked quite ugly, so mabyee there's a limit, unless you are competing.

Me, my goal was to bench my own weight. I bench about 40lbs more than my weight, so the goal is pretty much history.

Stumprrp
05-07-2006, 07:36 AM
is 405 raw an obtainable goal? im 150 lbs away but it seems that its possible, just keep squating and it should come.

KevinStarke
05-07-2006, 09:23 AM
Because after he hits a big bench he wants to tear his shirt off and flex.

Gah, of course!

Stump - Definitelly possible man just gotta keep working at it. Its real tempting to gain weight since I dont see my bench getting too much better at this weight...

WBBIRL
05-07-2006, 12:04 PM
People will have their natural limits, but I think you can hit 405 without that much trouble. Your back strength is outstanding, so with some work I dont see why your chest strength couldn't be.

Alex.V
05-07-2006, 12:14 PM
405 without much trouble?

Man, seriously, I understand you believe the sky's the limit, but please be realistic here.

WBBIRL
05-07-2006, 02:04 PM
I try to be as realistic as possible.

What I mean when I say without much trouble is different then what you think of I guess.

Without much trouble means not going crazy tweaking out his routine, tracking every aspect of his diet like it was a life or death thing and not going bezerk if he misses a session here or there. Granted it may take him a few years, but it should be very well possible.

Sidior
05-07-2006, 03:35 PM
I try to be as realistic as possible.

What I mean when I say without much trouble is different then what you think of I guess.

Without much trouble means not going crazy tweaking out his routine, tracking every aspect of his diet like it was a life or death thing and not going bezerk if he misses a session here or there. Granted it may take him a few years, but it should be very well possible.

nothing impresses you eh?

also my goal would be bench without any pain

WBBIRL
05-07-2006, 04:20 PM
Alot impresses me... a 500lb bench does, so does BCC's physique. A couple of guys on here have very impressive physique's as well as damn impressive numbers.

A 400lb bench isnt that outrageous, IMHO, to the weight some guys around here can move and how they look.

Lothar
05-07-2006, 04:23 PM
People will have their natural limits, but I think you can hit 405 without that much trouble. Your back strength is outstanding, so with some work I dont see why your chest strength couldn't be.

Are you kidding? The gulf between 255 and 405 is MASSIVE. If he's a newbie who weighs 275 it'd be one thing, but the heigher the weight the longer it can take.

biggimp
05-07-2006, 05:13 PM
455@220 age 22. shirted of course, just single ply.

Lothar
05-07-2006, 05:24 PM
455@220 age 22. shirted of course, just single ply.

I do wonder what kind of carryover I might be able to get with a good shirt and a lot of board work.

WBBIRL
05-07-2006, 06:07 PM
Personally I've gained 150lbs on my bench in about 1.5 years... and while I wasnt considered a "newbie" I sure did train like one... I never even squatted once in those 1.5 years, nor deadlifted. But I trained legs and back in other ways... I was leg pressing 700+ lbs for a good number of reps.

I think to many people are mentally limited, telling themselves they cant. Those who arnt meantly limited are limited in other ways, be it situations in or out of their control. I for example am 100lbs overweight and have a poor diet... both of which I can control, and both of which ARE MY FAULT.



I guess though im being alittle too optimistic here, I've only seen 400+lbs benched in person two times so yea.

METAL VIPER
05-08-2006, 10:35 PM
I hope to break the 300 milestone, then 315. In that near range will also be 2x my bodyweight. So I should have 3 big milestones for me.
As for now:
155 lbs
235x4

LouPac
05-08-2006, 10:50 PM
My goal is 405, hopefully by sometime next year I'll get it.

phreak
05-09-2006, 12:50 AM
405 raw by the end of the year would be nice (currently 350-ish), 450+ shirted.

KevinStarke
05-09-2006, 07:04 AM
405 Shirted would be nice by the end of the year... we shall see.

Bob
05-09-2006, 07:17 AM
>400 lbs - RAW and drug free... anytime b4 I die...
and if I hit that goal, then I'm aiming for 500

syrus
05-09-2006, 08:32 AM
My goal is 315 by the end of the year and 350 a year from now.

Guido
05-09-2006, 09:01 AM
I'd love to be at 300 Raw soon (400 shirted), then 315 Raw by the end of the year. My longer term goal is 405 Raw, 500 shirted. Would be awesome to hit those someday.

Alex.V
05-09-2006, 09:17 AM
Personally I've gained 150lbs on my bench in about 1.5 years...



So did I, back in the day where I was in the high 200 to low 300 range. But going from 350 to 400 was an order of magnitude more difficult than going from 300 to 350.

But, dude, your attitude is certainly right. :)

JaCelica2k
05-09-2006, 09:25 AM
My goal long term is to Bench 405 and Squat 495 and Dead 585

edit: +15 lbs somewhere because I want to get 1500 total with my big 3.

Duffman
05-09-2006, 08:41 PM
i feel so weak now merely wanting to hit 300 sometime before the summer is over.

LouPac
05-09-2006, 10:44 PM
So did I, back in the day where I was in the high 200 to low 300 range. But going from 350 to 400 was an order of magnitude more difficult than going from 300 to 350. Not too mention when you start lifting those kinds of weights you risk injury, which is what happened to me.:cry:

But, dude, your attitude is certainly right. :)
Amen to that. It's relatively easy going from 300 to 350. Getting over 350 is the wall I hit. I just started doing alot of deadlifts and a lot more heavier and low rep sets so we'll see where that will take me. I never did deadlifts and goodmornings and I just added them, I'm hoping these will help me over the mountain.:strong:

Ironman15
05-09-2006, 11:57 PM
Hopefully i can hit 2 pps here soon. From there my goal will be to eventually hit 2xbw at 280(although by the time it takes my to gain that much strength, hopefully my bodyweight is in the 150-160 range in which I want 3pps).
I hit 215 when I was at my biggest and strongest. BW wise I'm about 5-8lbs away from that.

pinky8713
05-10-2006, 01:57 AM
Short term goal - Hit 195 x 5 x 5 on flat bench tomorrow. Or maybe i should just go up by 5lbs this week and nail 190 x 5 x 5. We'll see how i feel.

Longer term goal - Hit a 275 bench this bulk. Bring it on.

bill
05-11-2006, 05:30 PM
So did I, back in the day where I was in the high 200 to low 300 range. But going from 350 to 400 was an order of magnitude more difficult than going from 300 to 350.

But, dude, your attitude is certainly right. :)
I second Belial, I did 300 right around high school
315x2 over a yr or two ago
now finally back or beyond those #'s

My goal short term is 335-340, mid 365, longer 405
drug free

MeHoW
05-11-2006, 10:49 PM
Jesus, numbers in this thread are absolutely mindblowing.

My personal goal,

225 (in less than 1 year hopefully, current max is 160), then rep 225 till a projected 315 max, do 315 - go back to 255 and rep as many times as possible.

I'm a small guy and don't plan to be 200+lbs at my height (5'6) so anything above that seems a bit unrealistic.

We'll see...

Isaac Wilkins
05-12-2006, 08:55 AM
I'd like to see a 505 shirted bench sometime this year and a 385-plus raw bench. Of course, a lot of that will depend on if my bodyweight stays in the 230 range or if I start adding weight.

Sensei
05-12-2006, 09:06 AM
I would like to go from "pathetically weak" to "barely acceptable" before 2007.

Eszekial
05-12-2006, 10:21 AM
I'd like to add that i'd like to be deadlifting and squating 350 by the time i can bench 315.

Goodwinm
05-12-2006, 10:31 AM
My ultimate bench press goal is 1000lbs :)
doable?? lol

Relentless
05-12-2006, 10:53 AM
If I can keep my arms/hands/shoulders uninjured for a couple of consecutive months I'd like to push my 1rm from 270 up to 315. I think that's very achievable for me in the short to medium term. (6'1", ~220 at ~15-16% ATM and cutting)

Beyond that? I dunno... 405 raw sounds like a nice number but I don't know if I'll ever be dedicated enough to get up there. Agree with Belial that the journey from 300 to 400 is MUCH different than the journey from 200 to 300.

Relentless
05-12-2006, 10:57 AM
I'd like to add that i'd like to be deadlifting and squating 350 by the time i can bench 315.

Those seem like proportionally low numbers for a bench in that range.
405 squats and 495+ deads are better goals IMHO. :) To give you a sense of perspective, my bench max is 270 but I have deadlifted 465 and I have squatted 385 to parallel (all lifts raw). I also don't think I'm particularly strong or adept at the lifts. Generally though, most people have a bench < squat < deadlift breakdown and the maxes are often about 1 plate per side different (varies obviously based on the individual and size/shape/injuries/etc.)

Shark
05-12-2006, 11:07 AM
Even though I don't train barbell bench very often I think I could hit 315x1 on my next "bulk" if I really put some thought in it. I have hit 295x1 before. I suppose 315x8 or 405x1 would both be excellent long term goals. I would plan to do this at 6'3" between 220-240 pounds. One thing that holds me back is my arm length though, the 37 shirt sleeves do not help teh bizench.

Goodwinm
05-12-2006, 11:15 AM
I know this thread is about barbell benches. But what about Dumbell benching?? I knowdumbell benching is not used in PL competitions but it would be nice to see what your current and goals are for those.
Cuz i know we were all extremely impressed when we saw ronnie coleman DB bench press 200lbs solidly EACH arm for 12 reps. Thats 90kg each arm. Totalling 400lbs. Which he would obviousley be able to do on bench. So my question is, you people who can bench or goal to bench 400lbs with barbell, could you bench 200lbs dumbell each arm?? (i know its a different kettle of fish but wud be nice to see your db press goals).
I can do 50kg dumbells in each arm for 1-2 reps. But i cant imagine putting an extra 40kg on each and repping it for 12. its insane!

Bigfootedfreak
05-12-2006, 02:17 PM
405 Shirted would be nice by the end of the year... we shall see.
Crap bro, 405 lbs at 160? thats what i call a BEAST!. you can do it man. myself, id like to bench 405 by june 5th. (beginning of football conditioning.) and id be happy. im right at 380 as of 1 week ago.

Eszekial
05-12-2006, 02:30 PM
Those seem like proportionally low numbers for a bench in that range.
405 squats and 495+ deads are better goals IMHO. :) To give you a sense of perspective, my bench max is 270 but I have deadlifted 465 and I have squatted 385 to parallel (all lifts raw). I also don't think I'm particularly strong or adept at the lifts. Generally though, most people have a bench < squat < deadlift breakdown and the maxes are often about 1 plate per side different (varies obviously based on the individual and size/shape/injuries/etc.)

Yeah it's pathetic that I can't squat or dead more.
I have a deformity in my left leg which prevents full extension. Got it from a femur snap running the football. Got speared right above the knee while planting my leg to change direction. I need to have surgery on this to correct it i believe. Going to look into it as soon as i save enough money.

And I think related to that is a low back problem on my left side.

Hopefully once those are fixed, i can squat and dead like a normal human.

KevinStarke
05-12-2006, 03:05 PM
Crap bro, 405 lbs at 160? thats what i call a BEAST!. you can do it man. myself, id like to bench 405 by june 5th. (beginning of football conditioning.) and id be happy. im right at 380 as of 1 week ago.

Thanks man, shouldnt be a problem with a bench shirt. RAW i'd like to be around 335-355.

Stumprrp
05-12-2006, 04:46 PM
bigfoot, 6'8 282, HOLY MOTHER OF GOD, post pics please!!

i would like a 315 decline mid summer.

SkinnySadMan
05-12-2006, 05:27 PM
This is powerlifting. Would anyone here be impressed if someone small like myself weighing a mere 135 lbs. benching 2x bodyweight ? Even though that would be a 270 lbs. 1rep max, Most big guys can easily bench over 300+ lbs. for a 1rep max. Would you be impressed if some 110 lbs. kid benched 220 lbs. once, but say you could rep out 220 lbs. 10 times ? I'm talking RAW lifts.

I don't plan on staying at this weight though, I want to be in a 150-160 lbs. range....read sig.... regardless of weight it'll always be a 2x bodyweight bench press goal :)

KevinStarke
05-12-2006, 07:39 PM
Im very impressed by weight lifted compared to bodyweight, i myself am a lightweight powerlifter.

HeavyBomber
05-12-2006, 07:49 PM
So am I. You are one strong dude Kev.

KevinStarke
05-12-2006, 08:08 PM
I do alright, but i'd take bein a guy like you and moving that ridiculous weight you move any day.

FighterInSnatch
05-12-2006, 09:03 PM
405x1 before the end of June. Eventually I'd like to double my bodyweight in bench whatever it may be at the time.

KevinStarke
05-12-2006, 09:19 PM
What do you bench now fighter?

FighterInSnatch
05-12-2006, 09:31 PM
What do you bench now fighter?

I recently got 370lb for one. It was a nice slow one too.

rbar89
05-12-2006, 11:22 PM
if i did 185x3 and then 180x3 a few minutes after, what would you guys say i should try for when I max? 200?

Bigfootedfreak
05-13-2006, 01:16 AM
bigfoot, 6'8 282, HOLY MOTHER OF GOD, post pics please!!

i would like a 315 decline mid summer.
lol man ill get some up as soon as i can.

WBBIRL
05-13-2006, 12:57 PM
This is powerlifting. Would anyone here be impressed if someone small like myself weighing a mere 135 lbs. benching 2x bodyweight ? Even though that would be a 270 lbs. 1rep max, Most big guys can easily bench over 300+ lbs. for a 1rep max. Would you be impressed if some 110 lbs. kid benched 220 lbs. once, but say you could rep out 220 lbs. 10 times ? I'm talking RAW lifts.

I don't plan on staying at this weight though, I want to be in a 150-160 lbs. range....read sig.... regardless of weight it'll always be a 2x bodyweight bench press goal :)


You have it all wrong, the 200lb kid who comes into our gym and benches 225 once gets way more attention then when I put 335 up. No one even looked, its like WTF I doo 110lbs more and you guys dont care lmao. Obvisouly he did alot more then his body weight then I did but still. People are more impressed by guys under 200lbs who do like 225-250 then guys who are 275+lbs who do 315-335. Dont ask me why.

RedSpikeyThing
05-13-2006, 01:14 PM
Wow you guys are outta my league. I'm finally repping 135...thats ONE PLATE. ****! I think I'm going to start training for strength. On that note, I'd like to, one day, hit a 2 x BW bench. Right now that would be 300 lbs...

jtteg_x
05-13-2006, 02:14 PM
currently weigh in at 175lb, best bench was 225lb x2.
goal is to reduce body fat and get myself down into the 160lb's while repping 225lb for reps.

bill
05-14-2006, 10:12 AM
I know this thread is about barbell benches. But what about Dumbell benching?? I knowdumbell benching is not used in PL competitions but it would be nice to see what your current and goals are for those.
Cuz i know we were all extremely impressed when we saw ronnie coleman DB bench press 200lbs solidly EACH arm for 12 reps. Thats 90kg each arm. Totalling 400lbs. Which he would obviousley be able to do on bench. So my question is, you people who can bench or goal to bench 400lbs with barbell, could you bench 200lbs dumbell each arm?? (i know its a different kettle of fish but wud be nice to see your db press goals).
I can do 50kg dumbells in each arm for 1-2 reps. But i cant imagine putting an extra 40kg on each and repping it for 12. its insane!

I think the DB's just get harder to handle. But when your using large db's your rom usually decreases, because you sort press them over your chest (the same as ronnie). Instead of out all the way to the sides. I can rep 110's x 10 or more so I could probably do 150's for 1 or 2 might need a hand off. I may be naturally strong the db's, I have a very strong friend and can hang with him on db's.

Goodwinm
05-14-2006, 02:33 PM
I think the DB's just get harder to handle. But when your using large db's your rom usually decreases, because you sort press them over your chest (the same as ronnie). Instead of out all the way to the sides. I can rep 110's x 10 or more so I could probably do 150's for 1 or 2 might need a hand off. I may be naturally strong the db's, I have a very strong friend and can hang with him on db's.
thnx for the reply. yes i have found that the more weighto n db's the bulkier and more arkward they are to lift.

Stumprrp
05-14-2006, 06:00 PM
yes DB's are very very funny to lift ive got to 90 5 x 5 but i shat on 95's 2 weeks in a row, switched back to BB strength was hella down but its back up.

right now my decline single is about 270, i hope to press 315 in 8 weeks.

KevinStarke
05-14-2006, 07:07 PM
The dumbell to barbell weight ratio i've found is different with everyone, some people are strong with both, some strong with one or the other. I havnt done dumbell benching sine last summer but the last time I did it I got 100's x 16 and 120's x 6 with a 315 lb barbell bench, 320 now and i'll find out what I can do with dumbells again this summer.

WBBIRL
05-14-2006, 07:43 PM
DB's are weird for me, most I've ever gotten is 100's x 6.

I havent declined bench in a long time, and I want to... just to see where im at. It seems like its easier to decline then flat or incline.

Stumprrp
05-14-2006, 08:18 PM
with decline, the movement is somewhat less but its very close to an arched flat bench, while the arch bothers me ALOT, it also is less stress on my shoulders, personally you would probley rep 315.

WBBIRL
05-14-2006, 08:29 PM
Dunno man, its a different movement and one im not used to. I know being used to the movement itself is a big thing... I bombed out on 225lb squats on saturday and in the past I've squatted 450 for an easy 1RM.

I would love to do it though, im going to suggest to our gym owner to get some sort of equipment to do freeweight decline benchpresses. I could do it on a smith machine now, but smith machines are the devil.

biggimp
05-14-2006, 11:06 PM
Those seem like proportionally low numbers for a bench in that range.
405 squats and 495+ deads are better goals IMHO. :) To give you a sense of perspective, my bench max is 270 but I have deadlifted 465 and I have squatted 385 to parallel (all lifts raw). I also don't think I'm particularly strong or adept at the lifts. Generally though, most people have a bench < squat < deadlift breakdown and the maxes are often about 1 plate per side different (varies obviously based on the individual and size/shape/injuries/etc.)

i was way off from that. when i made my squat PR, my bench was 210lbs below that, and my deadlift PR was only 20lbs more. my arms have always been far weaker than my legs. seems almost everybody else is opposite of that though...

Bigwhitemale
05-15-2006, 02:50 AM
I think a lot of people are having unrealistic goals, like reping 500lbs in 3 years, I think you have to look at your genetics and at how much you really want it
Your desire may be the most important thing. I have done 455 at 185lbs before, I almost did 460 at 180lbs,, but my spotter touched the bar, so to me that doesn't count, I've done 405x5 reps ,but those plates did not weigh 45lbs when I weighted them on the scale. I've done 405x4 3/4 reps with Ivanko plates, that's 4 and three quarters. All those lifts don't count in a competition, where you have to pause at the bottom, can't lift your butt off the bench etc. I will be competing in a drug tested(I'm all natural) competition this October, please wish me luck. I have squated 405 in training, deadlifted 430lbs recently, I almost deadlifted 455 a while ago. I have done deadlifts with 405 x almost 8 reps(7 3/4) I currently weight 175-180, and I will be competing in the 181lb category.Forget steroids, take natural supplements only and hard work. I won't tell yopu all my secrets to how to become strong. Btw, I'm not allowed to take ephedrine for these competitions, my impressive lifts at the gym were done with the aid of ephedrine. That's considered cheating in a competition, I can't be taking ephedrine for the competition, but I can drink a cup of coffee.

Bigwhitemale
05-15-2006, 03:52 AM
I forgot to mention my goal, what is my goal? I'm not sure since what I can do under strict competition rules is substatially less than what I can do in the gym, where there are no rules and you can just touch and go. But I used to say I wanted a 600lb bench press in competition. That's what I said before, now the sky is the limit, I don't set up a limitation anymore, I want to get as strong as possible, the natural way. I believe I will bench 600 someday...wish me luck...;)

Guido
05-15-2006, 09:49 AM
Why don't you practice in the gym how what you'd have to do it in competition? Less chance you'll red light in a meet that way and you'll have a better idea of where you actually stand.

rbar89
05-20-2006, 05:22 PM
I know this may not sound like anything to all the people repping over 300, but It will be very exciting for me when i can get 225 with the 2 plates on each side.

SkinnySadMan
05-20-2006, 07:29 PM
Me too! rbar89.

bigbadwolfe
05-21-2006, 07:25 PM
Hey whats up guys, just figured I would say hey!! If any of you got bench questions shoot me a PM or just ask away.Chris from At Large asked me to come onboard and helpout.

Wolfy!!!! 830 pound shirted contest bench

waynedang
05-21-2006, 07:31 PM
What's up wolfy!!!


My bench goal is a single ply 600 in competition maybe November in Vegas

bigbadwolfe
05-21-2006, 07:38 PM
What fed you looking at doing that in, WABDL?

waynedang
05-21-2006, 07:59 PM
What fed you looking at doing that in, WABDL?


Yeah but I am going to hit an APA meet on Sep 16th in Champain,IL. I will start training for it when I get back from Jamaica in a couple weeks. I have had some elbow issues since 04' and I think I figured out how to train around them so we will see.


Wayne

bigbadwolfe
05-21-2006, 08:12 PM
Jaimaca, the Carribean is AWESOME!!! I wish we could of stayed in the Cayman's. If I would not of had kids to coem back to we probably would of. Well good luck and I hope the elbow gets better,I've had a bout with wrist probs here lately but it seems to be cleared up now.Either that or I have convinced myself it dont hurt no more.

waynedang
05-21-2006, 08:23 PM
Yeah we did the cruise thing last year this year I just want to lay on a beach and be drunk

dblocc707
05-31-2006, 11:30 AM
at 16 right now i hit 370 raw and growing fast. i would like to stay in the 242 weight class.
by 17 (2 months) 380 raw.
by 18 430 raw minimum
by 19 495 raw minimum
by 20 525 raw minimum
lifetime::: 700 raw 800 single ply
the 17 18 19 goals should happen but the lifetime is a big goal but is very much so tangable for me especially if i move up to the 275 class.

dblocc707
05-31-2006, 11:31 AM
the world record raw in the shw class is 713.... in the 242's i think its in the low 6's

bics56
05-31-2006, 01:07 PM
What is raw??

Right now the most I ever actually done is 300 for 2 reps. I would guess I am in the 315 range. But strength is second for me I am not 100% happy with how I look. So if my strength stayed the same but I looked how i wanted then I would be stoked. But If I were to look how I want for my height I guess I would be benching in the 360-380 range. I only weigh 200 now and am 6' ...I would like to shed some fat and tone up but I need to add size as well. I would like to weigh around 230 or so and be pretty shredded.

KevinStarke
05-31-2006, 01:10 PM
dblocc - Your one strong guy 700 at 275 would raw... that'd make you the best bencher in the world, most 275's are lucky to get 700+ in a shirt.

Stumprrp
05-31-2006, 06:43 PM
im going back to barbell flat but im going to be training BB'ing, i still hope for the numbers to rise as this will be my first serious supplemented bulk, 295?

WBBIRL
05-31-2006, 08:22 PM
You could hit 295, I know it. Do heavy negatives... they seemed to move things along once I got to 250.

WBBIRL
05-31-2006, 08:25 PM
at 16 right now i hit 370 raw and growing fast. i would like to stay in the 242 weight class.
by 17 (2 months) 380 raw.
by 18 430 raw minimum
by 19 495 raw minimum
by 20 525 raw minimum
lifetime::: 700 raw 800 single ply
the 17 18 19 goals should happen but the lifetime is a big goal but is very much so tangable for me especially if i move up to the 275 class.

Can we get a vid of the 370 bench??? I find it very hard to belive at that age, but im sure you could do it and a video would be nuts.

Your goals are unrealisitc, VERY unrealistic. Your pretty much gunning for the genetic super eliete (which you may be a part of with a 370 bench at 16 at a body weight of 242), and whats more is that your aiming to become pretty much one of the strongest benchers ever for the weight.

Sidior
05-31-2006, 08:28 PM
Can we get a vid of the 370 bench??? I find it very hard to belive at that age, but im sure you could do it and a video would be nuts.

Your goals are unrealisitc, VERY unrealistic. Your pretty much gunning for the genetic super eliete (which you may be a part of with a 370 bench at 16 at a body weight of 242), and whats more is that your aiming to become pretty much one of the strongest benchers ever for the weight.

Nothing wrong with shooting high if he realizes how much work it will take to reach these goals, if they are even possible for him.

Insane lifts already though man.

biggimp
05-31-2006, 10:49 PM
Can we get a vid of the 370 bench??? I find it very hard to belive at that age, but im sure you could do it and a video would be nuts.

Your goals are unrealisitc, VERY unrealistic. Your pretty much gunning for the genetic super eliete (which you may be a part of with a 370 bench at 16 at a body weight of 242), and whats more is that your aiming to become pretty much one of the strongest benchers ever for the weight.

i would never say a final "ultimate" goal is unrealistic. however dblocc, sorry to say, but unless you are juicing (which would be stupid at such a young age) there is no way in hell that you are going to improve your bench by 50 or 60 pounds a year, ESPECIALLY when you get up to around 400lbs. you just cant get that much stronger that fast. i will go ahead and say that that is impossible. sorry.

Meat_Head
05-31-2006, 11:05 PM
700lbs raw is definately an unrealistic goal... any kind of goal! Good god it takes a one in a hundred million monster + years and years of hard training + anabolics to even hit 600 raw. Has anyone even gotten close to that yet?

KevinStarke
05-31-2006, 11:32 PM
Yah Mendy holds the record at what, 713? or 715 or something like that in the SHW class. A guy also recently broke the 30 year old record for bench at 242 hitting a 650 or something around that making him the best raw bencher of all time and he was on serious juice.

Stumprrp
06-01-2006, 05:56 AM
Nothing is impossible, you gotta believe in yourself...

Even though im training for size, my strength should really go up alot since its my first bulk, i think, ill max out again on flat to see where i am at.

WBBIRL
06-01-2006, 07:54 AM
500+ is a tall order for any natural average lifter to hit, Id be willing to say that over 99% of the population will never see a 500lb raw natural benchpress with good form.

Gordo
06-01-2006, 08:57 AM
500+ is a tall order for any natural average lifter to hit, Id be willing to say that over 99% of the population will never see a 500lb raw natural benchpress with good form.

Do you think that has more to do with work ethic, or with genetic limits? I don't know about you, but I see a ton of people who start off strong, hit a plateau and just quit. Or miss one workout and decide to stop trying. You also have to keep in mind that a majority of people lifting are lifting so they look good on the beach, not move massive amounts of weight. I believe there are natural limits on what people can do, but I have no clue what they are. I am constantly surprised by what people accomplish when they are truely determined.

I don't set goals anymore. They limited my progress and put numbers on pedestals. 315 was always a big goal. 3pps just looked massive, until I got it. I wasn't relieved or happy that I had accomplished it, because then I needed to do more. Now I focus on getting better each time I lift. More weight, more reps, just more. If I don't accomplish that, I will next time.

The Percepta
06-01-2006, 11:50 AM
Yah Mendy holds the record at what, 713? or 715 or something like that in the SHW class. A guy also recently broke the 30 year old record for bench at 242 hitting a 650 or something around that making him the best raw bencher of all time and he was on serious juice.

Actually Jeremy H. benched 605 @ 242 @ NERB not 650...NickW hit 650 @ SHW though... I would also like to say that in my opinion Rick Weil was the best raw bencher of all time 485 @ 165 and 551 @ 181 raw...I believe he has also hit 500 @ 165 raw and 600 @ 200 raw unofficially...he benched flat back with a medium width grip...for a man to generate that type of power is unbelievable...just my opinion though...there were and are many great benchers out there...

btw whats up Kevin!

KevinStarke
06-01-2006, 01:02 PM
Haha oh snap whats up Perception, whats up man. My bad I got the two guys mixed up. Damn Rick Weil sounds like a monster, moving that kind of weight at our bodyweight...

Isaac Wilkins
06-01-2006, 02:06 PM
Yah Mendy holds the record at what, 713? or 715 or something like that in the SHW class. A guy also recently broke the 30 year old record for bench at 242 hitting a 650 or something around that making him the best raw bencher of all time and he was on serious juice.

Mendy actually hit a raw 730 at last year's New England Raw meet. Before that he had the record of 713-715 (there seems to be some dispute). Regardless he's hit 730 now and it was fast and smooth.

KevinStarke
06-01-2006, 03:03 PM
Damn 730 is nuts, my bad.

WBBIRL
06-01-2006, 04:08 PM
I believe its a human limit. Most people will never get to 500 raw, and your right... some that could will be limited by giving up, lacking motivation or just wanting teh buff.

I personally eat sleep and breathe moving big weights, its ALL i care about. My insanely flucating strength would have made many a guys quite long before where im at now. But I do doubt I have the genetics to get a 500lb raw bench, doenst mean I wont try though.

bigbadwolfe
06-01-2006, 06:00 PM
As far as i know Mendy only has the WR Raw at 715. That was what was announced leading into NERB. I'm almost positive it is only 715, if he did 730 it did not count.Last yrs New England meet was where he hit his 715 at.
But again I may be wrong. Wolfy!!!

getfit
06-01-2006, 06:02 PM
i want bench press 500lbs natural ofcourse ;)

jed
06-02-2006, 11:39 PM
My goal by when im a senior graduated from high school 18 years old is 385 at 225 lb. but for now, my goal is in my sig.

diesel_dan
06-03-2006, 12:03 AM
My short term goal is 315 by age 16. From there I'm not sure.

Isaac Wilkins
06-04-2006, 02:19 PM
As far as i know Mendy only has the WR Raw at 715. That was what was announced leading into NERB. I'm almost positive it is only 715, if he did 730 it did not count.Last yrs New England meet was where he hit his 715 at.
But again I may be wrong. Wolfy!!!

Yep, my bad. I just checked and he crushed the 715 and shot for 730 but didn't hit it.

Wordski
06-05-2006, 05:38 PM
300 lbs by the end of the year and I will be very happy!!!

Beast
06-05-2006, 06:35 PM
405 by the end of my life.

Stumprrp
06-05-2006, 07:16 PM
405 by the end of my life.

i can agree with that one

dw06wu
06-05-2006, 07:26 PM
4 wheels raw, at 10% bf or less, within 5 years if at all possible. I get the impression that the 405 is almost a write off compared to the 10% or less with my metabolism.

Mercuryblade
06-05-2006, 07:31 PM
Repping 100's by spring next year would be nice. I'm at 70's right now.
EDIT: wow late edit, I misread this as dumbell.

Saint Patrick
06-05-2006, 07:57 PM
I was up to 305 before I stopped lifting last year. If I get up to 315 I'll be happy, everything after that is gravy.

NASAKYCHAIRMAN
06-08-2006, 06:13 AM
Bench press 600 lb drug-free @ body weight of 215.

http://atlargenutrition.com/jt_hall.php

KevinStarke
06-08-2006, 08:59 AM
Bench press 600 lb drug-free @ body weight of 215.

Very impressive man, nice to see ya postin.

dblocc707
06-12-2006, 12:18 PM
i know the goal is very unrealistic but thats why its a goal. goals are set the eventually be accomplished. and since i know its very unrealstic it is somthing i ca always shoot for. i dont think mendy said when he was at 375 raw did he say well damn there is no way ill ever hit 700. now i dont know if that was his goal but the guy is doing it and i hopefully will be up there some day to. and im all drug free and will be competing soon .... and as for the guy who asked for a vid.... i dont know how to post but if you got a cell phone number i can send it to you (we got it on the video) or if anyone knows a way to transfer a cell phone video to the computer. i turn 17 in a couple of weeks but would love to hit at the bare minimum 425 raw by the time im 18. i got a single ply rage x and have never used. i only put it on and then said get this thing off of me. but i plan to use it more when competion comes.
Devin

dblocc707
06-12-2006, 12:23 PM
plus not all goals are unrealistic. there is a kid named reese but whos 16 in the 242's pulling 600+ in the usapl and has passed all tests... when he was in the 14-15 range on the usapl website he has a 500+ pull at 15 in the 220 class. now this is most than 99% will hit before the age of 18 let alone in their who life and this kids 16 and will outpull most people on this site let alone in most gyms. i expect to see some wr from this kid later on in life.

WBBIRL
06-12-2006, 12:44 PM
He's an anomoly, and he has proof. Not calling you on anything, but visual evidence will clear up any and all doubt.

Some kids are damn strong, I believe gimp posted a link to a 20 year old 165lb 600lb bencher.

Do people this strong exist??? Sure they do, but they are rarer then an honest politician.

biggimp
06-12-2006, 01:56 PM
He's an anomoly, and he has proof. Not calling you on anything, but visual evidence will clear up any and all doubt.

Some kids are damn strong, I believe gimp posted a link to a 20 year old 165lb 600lb bencher.

Do people this strong exist??? Sure they do, but they are rarer then an honest politician.


that 20yr old 165lb 600lb bencher is also using stuff like triple denim shirt and as much anabolics as ronnie coleman. that doesnt take away from how amazing his lifting is, but most people posting in this thread arent going to go that far.

Bam
06-12-2006, 02:16 PM
My goal is 300 before summer is over. my long term goal when highschool is over 400.

WBBIRL
06-12-2006, 03:28 PM
that 20yr old 165lb 600lb bencher is also using stuff like triple denim shirt and as much anabolics as ronnie coleman. that doesnt take away from how amazing his lifting is, but most people posting in this thread arent going to go that far.

well then that right there puts the case in point, the guy also needed gear to get that far.

dblocc707
06-13-2006, 11:36 AM
like i said if anyone wants proof geme ur cell number. i just can post vids

dblocc707
06-13-2006, 11:36 AM
i also got a 410 vid off some low boards

Dinosaur
06-14-2006, 10:16 AM
I don't care about bench really. I stick to close-grip for triceps work and incline to help out my overhead pressing but that's it. Flat bench is pretty useless for day-to-day stuff.

KevinStarke
06-14-2006, 12:29 PM
I don't care about bench really. I stick to close-grip for triceps work and incline to help out my overhead pressing but that's it. Flat bench is pretty useless for day-to-day stuff.

Then why are you posting in this thread?

The Percepta
06-15-2006, 05:03 PM
He's an anomoly, and he has proof. Not calling you on anything, but visual evidence will clear up any and all doubt.

Some kids are damn strong, I believe gimp posted a link to a 20 year old 165lb 600lb bencher.

Do people this strong exist??? Sure they do, but they are rarer then an honest politician.

There is no kid, 20 years old, benching 600 @ 165...that is a huge exagerration. There is Daiki Kodama who benched 619 @ 165 single ply under a IPF affiliate @ 25 years old I believe, maybe 26. Damian Osgood is a younger bencher who has done in the low-mid 500s @ 165 with a fully modded double ply....other then that no one that young has come close to 600 @ 165. Only guys @ 165 that has broken 600 are Markus Schick, Daiki Kodama, and Joe Mazza, unless this happened very recently that I am not aware of...

WBBIRL
06-15-2006, 05:29 PM
@ Precepta.. gimp posted it, so check it out for yourself.

@ Dinosaur... go play in traffic kk thanks.

Little to nothing you do in the gym translates very well into functional strength. When I have to pick up a pool table theirs no bar for me to grip at all the weigh is disperesed across a huge area and the position I have to get into is ****ty for any kinda of strength at all. To a small degree it may, but if your after fucntional strength, the gym isnt the place to go.

The Percepta
06-15-2006, 05:51 PM
could you please post the link of the kid benching 600 @ 165???

Meat_Head
06-15-2006, 06:11 PM
Little to nothing you do in the gym translates very well into functional strength. When I have to pick up a pool table theirs no bar for me to grip at all the weigh is disperesed across a huge area and the position I have to get into is ****ty for any kinda of strength at all. To a small degree it may, but if your after fucntional strength, the gym isnt the place to go.

No offense intended, but that's a bunch of bull****.

Guido
06-16-2006, 09:28 AM
You mean to say that someone who works out consistently at the gym lifting heavy things isn't going to have an easier time moving that pool table than someone who sits around on their ass and does nothing?

The strength of your muscles don't discriminate between barbells and pool tables.

Eszekial
06-16-2006, 10:34 AM
I can hold both my girlfriends arms together with 1 hand.

That translates to a 275lbs deadlift.

God bless deadlifts.

Clifford Gillmore
06-16-2006, 10:43 AM
The strength of your muscles don't discriminate between barbells and pool tables.


It does discriminate between distribution and technique, recruitment to a lesser degree. Someone who moves, say, dishwashers all day is going to have an easier time moving dishwashers than performing the Snatch. And vice versa.

Goodwinm
06-16-2006, 11:40 AM
to me its all about technique thinking about it. Like my dad. at his work in the warehouses they have 120kg rolls of carpet they have to lug around. Now they dont just pick it up and push it on their shoulders. They use technique and common sense to move the weight. Like rolling the weight along metal pipes, and using pipes as levers to push the weight onto lorries.

Technique is also used when carrying pool tables, washing machines or any aplpiance. Take a tv. You carry a tv with the heaviest side towards your chest, so that the weight doesnt overbalance.

WBBIRL
06-16-2006, 03:59 PM
You mean to say that someone who works out consistently at the gym lifting heavy things isn't going to have an easier time moving that pool table than someone who sits around on their ass and does nothing?

The strength of your muscles don't discriminate between barbells and pool tables.


What I mean is, moving a pool table is much harder then moving a barbell with weights on it. ALOT harder... you dont have nice pre defined grip areas with the weight even distrubted in a convient area. The weight is all in the one small area, not spread out over the space of a pool table. Its alot harder, and yes lifting helps over not doing it. But if you worked doing that all your life you would be better at it then someone gym rat.

Dinosaur
06-25-2006, 10:19 AM
@ Precepta.. gimp posted it, so check it out for yourself.

@ Dinosaur... go play in traffic kk thanks.

Little to nothing you do in the gym translates very well into functional strength. When I have to pick up a pool table theirs no bar for me to grip at all the weigh is disperesed across a huge area and the position I have to get into is ****ty for any kinda of strength at all. To a small degree it may, but if your after fucntional strength, the gym isnt the place to go.

There's actually a lot you can do that will have carryover. Deadlifts, overhead pressing movements, O-lifts, good mornings, Zercher squats/deadlifts, farmer's walking, deadlift walks, you name it. I'm an amateur strongman competitor so strength is what I'm all about. I've met very few guys who still even bench regularly, they're like me, either close-grip or occasionally inclines if their overhead press is stagnating a bit.

And I used to bench well over twice my bodyweight for reps before I realized what's the point? Overhead pressing's much more fun and useful anyways.

:strong:

Jinkies
06-25-2006, 02:02 PM
705 pounds raw, no liftoff

SkinnySadMan
06-25-2006, 05:03 PM
Torque Force?

SW
06-25-2006, 11:04 PM
To the OP: As much as God lets me between now and death.

As to the functional strength thing: I used to be on WBBIRL's side of this arguement, but living on a farm and noticeing the differences in how I was able to do things have greatly changed my mind.

About a month ago, I was driving a fence post in with gusto using an iron, welded fence post driver. On the third post, I broke a handle off.

Using a solid iron bar, I had to stick it in a hole on my grandpa's tractor to unscrew some very stuck piece of equipment. When I went to 2 hands, I bent the 3/4 inch bar into a "U".

Finally, when I had to turn the hard turning handle of the grain wagon to get the piece to go down to where the wagon could stand on it's own, it wouldn't go. So I twisted harder and harder until I broke the whole handle clean off. Turns out, I was turning it the wrong way.

I have other examples I can't get off the top of my head right now, but you see, these are all real life examples of what powerlifting has done for me.

THE POINT: I know for a fact I never would have gotten that strong in "real life" had I not busted ass in the gym.

pmpimpalot01
07-11-2006, 05:50 PM
400 before i graduate highschool....got 300 before starting junior year

Bigwhitemale
07-30-2006, 01:24 AM
Have any of you seen the video of Tank Abbott lifting 600 lbs on youtube.com? What do you think of it?

emjlr3
07-31-2006, 12:52 PM
400 before i graduate highschool....got 300 before starting junior year

that is beyond silly

my end all goal for bench would be 495, if I ever got that it would be silly beyond belief

I can hit ~330 now at 20@202

something reasonable though that I would love to get to would be 405, I would just love that, and If I never got higher then that I would not be sad in anyway shape or form

waynedang
07-31-2006, 01:56 PM
Have any of you seen the video of Tank Abbott lifting 600 lbs on youtube.com? What do you think of it?

I think Tank came out and said it was fake! So I take it for what it is.

Wayne

Eszekial
07-31-2006, 02:37 PM
I'll be happy doing 315 before i'm 21.

Now, being able to do a 1 armed pull up... That's a goal!

LivinItUp
07-31-2006, 04:54 PM
I'll be happy doing 315 before i'm 21.

Now, being able to do a 1 armed pull up... That's a goal!




Well as far as goals...I don't make short term ones. I want to be seeing 4-5 plates on each side at LEAST by the time I am 24-25 if not, then whatever..and if more than hell yeah! I'm 20 right now

Also I want to be bigger than arnold was, start the laughter now :clap: :clap: :clap:

BigRic
07-31-2006, 07:40 PM
225x25 times by the time i'm a senior.

HeavyBomber
07-31-2006, 08:29 PM
I am at 445 raw. My short term goal is 475. My lifetime goal is 500 -all raw lifts.

Denktank22
07-31-2006, 08:34 PM
My goal is 405, but Im in a cut phase right now, so Ill try to get it during the next bulk phase.

ritz600
08-01-2006, 06:36 AM
:strong: :omg: :thumbup: :) 700 in 07!!!!!!!

Bigwhitemale
08-08-2006, 01:30 AM
I think Tank came out and said it was fake! So I take it for what it is.

Wayne
What? It was fake? What a SOB! So how much can he really bench? 500? 450? 400? I know he is powerful, but how much can he bench? in his best days?

phreak
08-08-2006, 02:55 AM
405 raw by the end of the year would be nice (currently 350-ish), 450+ shirted.
Have to change my goals after my last meet. Did a very easy 440 there, so my goal for the end of this year has moved up to 485 (shirted, single ply). Next year I'm going for 600.