Liver toxicity article

[Beast]

http://www.mindandmuscle.net/mindandmuscle/magpage.php?issueID=37&artID=16

Uh oh, the return of dbol-only. ;)

[SpecialK]

http://www.mindandmuscle.net/mindandmuscle/magpage.php?issueID=37&artID=16

Uh oh, the return of dbol-only. ;)

FWIW, ST posted the following in the Anabolic FAQ 2.0 sticky:

Contrary to popular belief, you can run an oral throughout your entire cycle if you wish... and you're not gonna do yourself any harm. Alot of guys can run 100mg anadrol/day for 12 weeks and liver levels won't even come out of the normal range. Some guys I talked to had been runnin 100mg of dbol/day for an entire year and their liver levels were just fine. The only liver protectant they used was ALA or r-ALA, and that was only intermittantly... and more for the effects on insulin sensitivity than for the anti-oxidant characteristics. As long as you have no pre-existing liver problems, avoid the alcohol and other drugs that are notoriously tough on the liver, you're good to go.

[RBB]

bro, like does that mean that i can like run a dbol only cycle for 12 weeks? i'm 16 and 130lbs, but i'm a hardgainer.

yeah, liver toxicity is something a lot of people blow out of proportion. you should be aware of the issue, but unless you're really out of line you'll be ok.

[Gabrielle]

I've run a gram of dbol stacked with test for an extended period of time several times and didn't have problems. Everyone is different, so I believe safety is important, and getting regular blood work is key. At least hypothetically speaking 'if' I was running stuff at somewhat heavy doses for extended periods of time

[mr.potential]

16 stay away


let your body do its thing until early 20's
not for your liver for your reproductive and hormonal organs, as well as bone structure.

[Gabrielle]

lol mr. potential RBB was kidding, lol. He was imitating the genius underage kids that try dbol-only cycles

[HILL]

Lmao

[RBB]

i was serious. why won't you guys help me? i told you i'm a hardgainer. steroids are the answer, i know it.

[RickTheDestroyer]

Hahahahaha RBB, you're ****ing killing me...

Seriously though, good read. (EDIT- and actually- the Lyle McD article is pretty damn good too...)

[tony touch]

most people don't realize that dbol is best (quality muscle gains in comparison to the initial water blast that is 4 weeks) used over longer stretches than the 4-6 week blast that is recommended. i avoid orals most of the year but when i do use them (right now) i go for longer stretches and knock on wood,haven't had any problems.

[mr.potential]

thanks for the clarification I have seen 16 year olds that take the stuff though it isnt that weird round here.

I have my own question regarding the dbol though-
I am over 300 pounds and looking to get the most bang for my buck out of my d's but am afraid I will underdose because I have so much existing mass to absorb it. What are some dosages that you guys have gotten away with ok? Did you scale up to the higher dosages or jump right into hihg daily dosages?

[Rock]

I dont get it, and never will, a dbol only cycle sounds like a fun beginner cycle, 30mg dbol aday and 0,25mg adex and enjoy it.

[Rock]

Gabrielle, isnt a gram of dbol a little much

[the doc]

the fact is that without regular weekly blood draws there is no way to say that oral use is "safe"

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

bro, like does that mean that i can like run a dbol only cycle for 12 weeks? i'm 16 and 130lbs, but i'm a hardgainer.
i was serious. why won't you guys help me? i told you i'm a hardgainer. steroids are the answer, i know it.Funny stuff. :zipit:

Thanks for the article.

[Gabrielle]

everyone is different. When I was only thinking about getting 'swole' I didn't think that a gram is too much of dbol. My mindset was pretty extreme at the time. The older I get, I slow down thankfully

[tony touch]

lol the older i get, the harder i press on the gas pedal........

[Gabrielle]

lol tony