extended cycle.....

[OU812]

right now im on week 4 of what i had planned on being a 10 week cycle(its going awesome, im up 14lbs allready, alot which is water but i feel like the hulk), but i just ran into a problem. on week 13 i will be away, not near any gym equipment for 2 weeksm and not able to maintain the diet i had planned, not by choice, but i have something i need to attend.

im running 500 cyp/300 deca right now, would i be better to keep on during those 2 weeks off(when i should be starting pct, which would mean that i wouldnt be getting to the gym for the 1st 2 weeks of pct and my diet wouldnt be up to snuff) and extend the cycle length to 20 weeks(basically, im asking if there is any harm in this) and end the cycle with some hcg and clomid(as was allready planned on the 10 week cycle). i just want to keep as much gains as possible, i dont want a bad pct area to have me feeling cheeted at the end of this.

oh, would i be better off to switch to enanthate at the 10 week mark if i can keep on to 20 weeks with no harm? or is it really going to make much difference???

thanks for any advice!

[mr.potential]

Huh
no gym equip for two weeks where are you going the moon?

There is always gyms at hotels and stuff and on military bases.
I just pulled by back out yesterday except I hadnt planned on starting for a month so I should be ok but I am pissed I missed training yesterday and may miss today because of it. thank god i am not mid cycle like you that really sucks.

[HILL]

my opinion would be to stop at say week 12 just before you go away. Then you wont have to start pct until you get back the 3 week mark. even if you dont have access to a gym. dips,press ups and pull ups are available in all forms and manners so theirs no excuse. their is also certainly no excuse for your diet not to be half decent no matter were you are in the world. im going to spain and magaluf in june. i will be staying on and drinking to much but my diet will be cleanish and higher in cals than usual. steak all the time and ill be doing press ups and dips when i can. ill enjoy myself and be drunk most of the second time im away but ill still be as good as humanly possibly on a lads week away lmao

[OU812]

going away for family ****, i wont be in any mood for :strong: unfortunately, it sucks ass yes i know but youve gotta do what youve gotta do.

plus theres not a gym in the town where ill be, closest one would be like an hour drive away and its not gonna happen.

is it a bad thing if i kept on and ran it for the 20 weeks though? i know i wouldnt be gaining like i was foir the first bit, but other than that whats the problems with it(the only 20week cycles ive seen where when they did clinical testing, and they ran single compounds, 600mg test e for 20 weeks, another was deca for 20 weeks and one other, but i forget which and they had no problems with it?)

[HILL]

ive been on test now for 28 weeks. theirs nothing wrong with it. is this your first cycle. if so i wouldnt have ran deca as well but if your already running it never mind. their is no harm in say running the cycle for 15 weeks then coming off. i wouldnt suggest any longer for a first cycle really as you dnt know what its going to be like coming off

[OU812]

first time injecting, but ive ran 1ad/4ad then went m1t 20mg/4ad for 5 weeks, yeah i know bad call on m1t i shut the nuts down hard and pct wasnt up to snuff(6oxo only) but those were only 5-6 week cycles(2 of em) im still pretty young, and i bounced back fine before, and this time ive got hcg and clomid and nolva if i need it. i didnt realise how potent m1t could be, which is why i didnt do the research first(now that i have done it all i realise how potent the **** actually is)

thanks for all the help everyone :thumbup:

[smalls]

Drop the deca before you leave and run the test until you return (or week 20, whatever you want). That's probably what I would do.

[OU812]

smalls, im not saying its a bad idea, but whats the point of dropping the deca? will i not notice any more gains after week 10 or so from the deca?
just curious:strong:

[smalls]

Deca is very suppresive in most people and is a longer ester than cyp. It's usually dropped out a few weeks earlier than test normally and that's just an easy way to time it, IMO.

[OU812]

ok, well im going to drop the deca at week 10 and save the other 10ml's for the next cycle

[HILL]

good good thats a much better idea

[Shark]

I don't think you should keep on for 20 weeks. You sound like you don't have a clue what you're doing and don't have any business almost doubling the length of your cycle. If you have other things getting in the way of your lifting, come off of you cycle. Take your last shot before you leave and then go away for two weeks. Start PCT as soon as you get back.

[OU812]

I don't think you should keep on for 20 weeks. You sound like you don't have a clue what you're doing and don't have any business almost doubling the length of your cycle. If you have other things getting in the way of your lifting, come off of you cycle. Take your last shot before you leave and then go away for two weeks. Start PCT as soon as you get back.

ive spent 3 years researching the stuff(hell, i never planned on even using it, i just wanted to know all about it), i know more than most of the guys i know who have ran multiple cycles(most of them come to me asking about the ****, or im the go to guy if they have problems(because if i dont know the answer ill find out even if it takes me months) or whatnot), but there is not a whole hell of a lot about LONG cycles, which is why i had planned on 10 weeks(which is what most reccomend anyhow), but i get kinda choked when people tell me i dont know what im doing(like the one dealer who told me i dont need any sort of pct for a test cycle, his thing was "well i didnt use any and i was fine"). that was my whole reason for asking, to LEARN, ive always been told the only stupid question is one not asked, and i searched and didnt find what i was looking for so i thought id look into it more. ive read multiple books, read every sticky, searched probably every website, talked with many bodybuilders who use and compete. in the one book that im reading right now, they do not suggest extended cycles(of up to a year) but go into detail of 20 week test cycles(theres a study where patients were running 20 weeks of test enanthate at various doses, without any negative long term effects, so i know its not the worst thing but i just wanted to know what would be best for me)

(steps off the podium):whiner:

sorry for the rambling on.:spam:

[HILL]

its ok its proves you have done your research to a point. Its just once you get into the hang of adjusting your cycles mid cycle it may be a path you will follow on all cycles which isnt a good thing. i think this is were chris was coming from

[Saint Patrick]

OU812 - Just wondering, what's the name and author of that book you referred to?

[OU812]

OU812 - Just wondering, what's the name and author of that book you referred to?

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