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KingJustin
05-31-2006, 06:05 PM
Simple question ..
I'm trying to start carb cycling. I'm having some trouble figuring out how I'm going to cut my carbs down (I'm aiming for below 120g of carbs). This is difficult because I typically eat about 2x as many sugars as I have in protein post-workout. Is this necessary when carb cycling or what's the deal?

Built
05-31-2006, 06:20 PM
Your training days will be high carb, and your off-days will be low carb.

What's the problem?

KingJustin
06-01-2006, 02:40 AM
I think you might have misread the question ..
Question: Do I still need to consume 2.5x (or whatever the magical number) the amount of sugars/carbs as protein after my workout if I am on a low-carb day?

Example: I am trying to restrict my carbs to 75g or less. I have 40g of protein post-workout. That comes out to 40g * 2.5 = 100g of carbs. That's already too many carbs.

Built
06-01-2006, 02:41 AM
Why would you work out on a low carb day? The whole joy of carb cycling is you get to eat MORE on workout days.

KingJustin
06-01-2006, 03:31 PM
heh ... carb cycling just might not be a great idea for me.

I have a pretty high GPP. I work out 4 days a week and then I do HIIT 3 days and take MMA 2 days. Even if I only wanted to carb cycle on the HIIT/MMA days, I've always read that it's a good idea to treat HIIT just like lifting when you are dieting..

Built
06-01-2006, 04:28 PM
HIIT you feed like a lifting workout - that means carbs.

KingJustin
06-01-2006, 04:45 PM
Haha, Built that is kind of my point. So I'm working out essentially every day (HIIT 3 days, lifting 4 days). So, is it possible for me to carb cycle like this?

Built
06-01-2006, 04:55 PM
I can't see why you'd WANT to.

KingJustin
06-01-2006, 05:48 PM
Haha ...
Ok my "theory" was that I would be able to lose fat faster that way. Like, I would be eating less carbs and I'd start targetting fat and stuff.

Apparently this is a bad idea.

I'm still in a "quandary," though. Lots of people have done ketosis, which requires next to 0 carbs. They still work out and they have post-workout protein. But, wtf! They can't eat dextrose or they'll stop making ketones and bruning fat and instead just use carbs for fuel. It makes no sense!!!!

Built
06-01-2006, 05:51 PM
Nothing magical about ketosis. It's just helpful for appetite suppression for some of us. No biggie.

And it does NOT require ZERO carbs!!!

ddegroff
06-01-2006, 10:00 PM
As active as you are i would keep the carbs @ a sufficient amount.

arya202
06-01-2006, 10:14 PM
Hey built is it true that you should eat your carbs only when you get up and right before and after your workout for best results?

cts122
06-01-2006, 10:42 PM
Hey built is it true that you should eat your carbs only when you get up and right before and after your workout for best results?

Im sure built has more scientifically backed insite on this but I follow a carb cycling diet and I generally take 25% in the morning(complex) 50% post workout(fast acting carbs, ie dex) and another 25% about an hour or two after my postworkout meal which consists of all complex carbs.

Works wonders for me when bulking and cutting.

Built
06-02-2006, 12:43 AM
cts, you'd be surprised at how casual I am about the food-timing thing.

Personally, I feel like crap if I eat carbs in the AM - I train at night, so I eat a small amount of carb before I train (about 20-30 g) and the rest after.

djreef
06-02-2006, 11:02 AM
Justin - you may not need 100gms post workout. You may want to play with this. I only need 50 or so, for example, immediately after working out. I then eat a meal (before bed) which has 20-30 more gms.

DJ