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chris mason
06-20-2006, 06:04 PM
I have posted this on several forums.

It is a link to an article about Pat Casey benching 615 lbs raw. Here is what truly makes the feat amazing; he removed the bar from the rack unassited and then proceeded to lower it to his chest, pause, and then press and re-rack it. I think it is truly one of the greatest powerlifting feats ever!


http://s11.invisionfree.com/powertraining/index.php?showtopic=894

Stumprrp
06-20-2006, 06:36 PM
amazing, i love old school lifters and praise them, i also have a bench frenzy so thats even cooler! what a tank!

getfit
06-20-2006, 06:44 PM
nice!

Anthony
06-20-2006, 06:45 PM
That's awesome. Nothing against the guys and gals who use equipment, but I think deep down everyone knows that raw strength will always be more impressive.

Sidior
06-20-2006, 07:47 PM
very impressive

Jinkies
06-20-2006, 10:04 PM
It really is amazing, benching alone for so long i know firsthand how difficult it is to lift heavy weight without someone handing it to you ( you cant have perfect form) definately a man of great respect

phreak
06-21-2006, 12:11 AM
That's how a bench should be done. Raw, unassisted, strict. If ever I could do something similar with 500 I would be ecstatic.

biggimp
06-21-2006, 05:21 AM
wow. thats with no arch and elbows flared out. very impressive.

NASAKYCHAIRMAN
06-21-2006, 05:46 AM
Pat Casey was the first man to bench press over 600 pounds, squat over 800 pounds and total more than 2000.

J.T. HALL

Clifford Gillmore
06-21-2006, 07:20 AM
This is inspirtaion on demand! The physiques of the strongmen of yester-year allways inspires me, they loved the strength and nothing else.

Guido
06-21-2006, 07:57 AM
Awesome article. Pat Casey truly was a living legend of the time.

Goodwinm
06-21-2006, 07:57 AM
That is impressive to say the least!!
Like Anthony said, RAW is always the most impressive over geared up.
I always do my lifts raw. even with deadlifts. I love the feel of just hand to iron :D

Bob
06-21-2006, 08:53 AM
RAW... just like eating meat... lol.. I actually eat mine Medium..
But yeah, pat was amazing..
You gotta love coming out to warm-up in a Bathrobe!!
No wraps..
And the fact that they had to "officially" weigh the weights after he was done...

Beast
06-21-2006, 09:42 AM
Raw is so much more impressive... awesome!

WillKuenzel
06-21-2006, 10:02 AM
Its damn impressive. Now don't get me wrong, its a great feat of strength but I don't find it anymore impressive than a shirted bench. I don't want to turn this into a holier than thou thread but I look at them totally different. Raw is cool, but eqiupment usage is too.

Its like comparing football to rugby or soccer to rugby. To some extent they're similar but still different. I don't see what the big deal between using equipment and not is.

Anthony
06-21-2006, 10:14 AM
So a 600lbs with a triple denim shirt is just as impressive as 600lbs raw? :p

MixmasterNash
06-21-2006, 11:02 AM
Its damn impressive. Now don't get me wrong, its a great feat of strength but I don't find it anymore impressive than a shirted bench. I don't want to turn this into a holier than thou thread but I look at them totally different. Raw is cool, but eqiupment usage is too.
With the raw vs equipped debate, I think we lose track of the fact that Casey outpressed the nearest competitor by 50%. He easily warmed up the the 2nd place maximum weight. And then he beat his own record by a substantial margin.

Sidior
06-21-2006, 11:05 AM
Obviously a 600 raw is more impressive than a 600 equipped, but an equipped athlete will put up higher numbers than when he/she is not equipped. So comparing the two is silly.

Guido
06-21-2006, 03:46 PM
Scot Mendelson's 715 Raw is just as impressive as his 1,008 Equipped. I wouldn't take anything away from either, because he can obviously back up his huge numbers either way.

Any list of the best heavyweight raw benchers in history, in my opinion, regardless of era, would have to include:

Pat Casey
Jim Williams
Ted Arcidi
Bill Kazmaier
Steve Wong
Brian Siders
Scot Mendelson

Goodwinm
06-21-2006, 03:51 PM
how does wearing gear help with the lift tho?? Thats what i just dont get!!
Does it make you strogner or something?


p.s. sorry if this post seems very stupid. I just rele awnt to know how a shirted bench press can be so much higher than non shirted.

Stumprrp
06-21-2006, 05:23 PM
how much did big billy boy bench?

bigbadwolfe
06-21-2006, 05:57 PM
Goodwin,

A shirt allows you to do more becasue it gives you a pop off the bottom.And alot of shirts now a days have a good drive all the way through the top. The best way that I explain a benchshirt to people is that it is like spring loading your elbows.You have some guys that cannot touch 800 pounds to there chest becasue there shirts are so tight.Some also have a certain groove that the shirt is designed to stay in and alot of times if you get outta that groove the shirts are worthless. Hope this helps!!!!

Wolfy!!!!

Stumprrp
06-21-2006, 05:59 PM
thanks for that explanation wolfe i was wondering too, and the first day of the program went well.

bigbadwolfe
06-21-2006, 06:05 PM
No prob Stump keep me informed on the whole thing you got my email!!!

Wolfy!!!!

Stumprrp
06-21-2006, 06:08 PM
i had a question for you im not sure if you got my last email, im benching kind of narrow compared to waht i used to, pinkys on the ring, elbows in, and im 5'7, should i widen it so i dont sacrifice my chest?

bill
06-21-2006, 06:24 PM
Any idea how tall Pat is , wt was 329

Goodwinm
06-22-2006, 02:18 AM
Cheers Wolfe!! Thats helped alot! :D

WillKuenzel
06-22-2006, 05:23 AM
So a 600lbs with a triple denim shirt is just as impressive as 600lbs raw? :pFunny man. Not necessarily if he weighed as much as Pat but if he was much smaller then yes, it would as impressive. I just think the whole raw vs. equiped debate gets tossed out of proportion.

Anthony
06-22-2006, 05:41 AM
Funny man. Not necessarily if he weighed as much as Pat but if he was much smaller then yes, it would as impressive. I just think the whole raw vs. equiped debate gets tossed out of proportion.

I have nothing against equipment, although I much prefer raw lifting. I agree it's impossible to compare raw vs equipped, but it's nearly impossible to compare equipped vs equipped. Even in the same fed. There are just too many variables.

Stumprrp
06-22-2006, 06:05 AM
its always struck me as the best benchers are always like 6'1 300, i always though to myself, someone at 5'7 260ish should be able to bench the same, you know like take the high and subtract the weight? but ive never heard of a pro bencher thats 5'7 and does 700+ shirted lol.

http://media.putfile.com/625lbs-for-3-repsraw theres a cool one

Guido
06-22-2006, 09:45 AM
Anthony Clark was like 5'8". In fact, LOTS of the strongest benchers have been under 5'10".

Stumprrp
06-22-2006, 09:54 AM
cool man, how much did he put up and do you know his weight?

bill
06-22-2006, 07:25 PM
Vinny Dienzi (sp) is not super tall and has 800 or more bench

JarHead 1775
06-22-2006, 07:46 PM
That guy is a freak.!!