View Full Version : FEMALE - needs help!
Chantelle
06-23-2006, 04:49 AM
Hiya guys,
I started lifting about 3 months ago, to help build up my legs, going for a toned thick look.
I lift 3-4 times a week, doing a lot of squats, deadlifts, lunges, etc.
However, im finding that the fat on my legs is dissapearing, and im looking like im losing weight!!!
(My goal was to build muscle under the fat to keep the weight and just bulk it up to a more prounounced shape).
I dont wanaa icrease my calories hugely, as i dont wanna put on weight else where, ive reduced the cardio to minimal now, but the weigth still appears to be dropping.
1) Why is the weight dropping, and why arnt i bulking up?
2)If diet is so important, how come guys in prisons come out HUGE after training on non existent diets?
3) how can i maximise bulk on my legs?
4) When should i train, (im doing 2-3 sets of 10), with how much weight, and how often should i switch up routines?
My plan is to build muscle under my current layer of body fat, and build it up, without LOSING the fat existing? And if i build up my LEGS, body fat will only be used up from the place it was last diposited? Thats right isnt it, or else it would be spot reduction!
Thanks so much for your help,
heres a pic of the shape im looking for.... (ill post soon)
(guys enjoy)!
betastas
06-23-2006, 06:45 AM
If you are losing fat it is because you are in a caloric deficit. This means you will lose fat all aover your body until you reached an equilibrium. If you increase your calories you will slow this, stop it, or reverse it depending on how much you eat. If you eat more than you need to maintain, you will grow muscle mass and add a bit of fat at the same time. It's all about trading off.
ottomanart
06-23-2006, 08:33 AM
HAHAHAHAHA GREAT PICTURES hahahahahhahhahhahahhahah!!! good luck getting that shape too hun!!!
Keep an eye out for Built, Getfit and the other girls (*cough) I mean women who are in here… they know what they are doing and can really get you on your way! They are great!!!
Good luck hun!!!
djreef
06-23-2006, 09:08 AM
Red beans and rice works for J Lo, or so she says. Stay on track with your training. If you want a big tight ass like those you're going to have to cut fat anyway, or it's going to look all lumpy.
DJ
JarHead 1775
06-23-2006, 11:34 AM
Which is the most recent? You look different in two of them.
djreef
06-23-2006, 12:45 PM
Those aren't of her. They are just pix of what she's going for. That one on the end looks like a cartoon.
DJ
JarHead 1775
06-23-2006, 12:48 PM
Just reread the thread. Thanks. The one on the left is not attractive at all same with the one the right.
Coqui
06-23-2006, 01:55 PM
If you want the one on the right, that's all genetics. She's lost a lot of the fat but still has the ghetto booty. You either have it or don't.
Jinkies
06-23-2006, 03:04 PM
Testing my self control eh?
Anyways welcome to the forum and gl with your goals; there are many beautiful fit women on here who can offer plenty of advice to you. Just remember it takes time and if your losing size it could be your burning fat and gaining muscle ( weighs more but takes up less space)
Is your weight increasing or going down aswell?
here let me get your workout plan set up:
eat more, eat healthy
do more squats
your badunkadunk will be in tow.
if you gain more than 2-3lbs a week, you are likely gaining more fat than you would like with your muscle...you ARE a girl so muscle gains are going to come slowely.
Margin Of Error
06-23-2006, 04:39 PM
Hiya guys,
I started lifting about 3 months ago, to help build up my legs, going for a toned thick look.
I lift 3-4 times a week, doing a lot of squats, deadlifts, lunges, etc.
However, im finding that the fat on my legs is dissapearing, and im looking like im losing weight!!!
(My goal was to build muscle under the fat to keep the weight and just bulk it up to a more prounounced shape).
I dont wanaa icrease my calories hugely, as i dont wanna put on weight else where, ive reduced the cardio to minimal now, but the weigth still appears to be dropping.
1) Why is the weight dropping, and why arnt i bulking up?
2)If diet is so important, how come guys in prisons come out HUGE after training on non existent diets?
3) how can i maximise bulk on my legs?
4) When should i train, (im doing 2-3 sets of 10), with how much weight, and how often should i switch up routines?
My plan is to build muscle under my current layer of body fat, and build it up, without LOSING the fat existing? And if i build up my LEGS, body fat will only be used up from the place it was last diposited? Thats right isnt it, or else it would be spot reduction!
Thanks so much for your help,
heres a pic of the shape im looking for.... (ill post soon)
(guys enjoy)!
You seem to have a pretty good idea of what you're doing in the gym, you just need to eat more.
Turnip
06-23-2006, 07:08 PM
No one gonna ask her what her split is? Cmon getfit/built would be ashamed.
ottomanart
06-23-2006, 11:43 PM
No one gonna ask her what her split is? Cmon getfit/built would be ashamed.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... yeah ok... I'llgive in...
So hun... what's your split!?!?!
and give us the goods on your body weight and higth and all that too
Built
06-24-2006, 01:26 AM
I am SO glad I didn't click that link from work earlier ...
Post up your workout, diet, height, weight, and approx bodyfat. A pic of what we're working with would be helpful.
sCaRz*Of*PaiN
06-24-2006, 03:41 AM
2)If diet is so important, how come guys in prisons come out HUGE after training on non existent diets?Muscles are not made of air. Calories = muscles. Diet is vital to success. There's no two ways about it.
Clifford Gillmore
06-24-2006, 03:44 AM
2)If diet is so important, how come guys in prisons come out HUGE after training on non existent diets?
They don't. Stop watching bad movies :)
sCaRz*Of*PaiN
06-24-2006, 03:47 AM
They don't. Stop watching bad movies :):thumbup:
ottomanart
06-24-2006, 08:51 AM
They don't. Stop watching bad movies :)
:withstupi hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahaha
come on... special effect make movies interesting!!! HAHA
Turnip
06-25-2006, 04:29 AM
I dunno, whose to say all movies are fake? I got pretty ripped when I got bitten by a radio active spider.
Chantelle
06-25-2006, 05:56 AM
Thanx for allthe help, its much appreciated!
Well, ibe naturally got 'that ghetto booty' my hips are big, and ive gota great butt, i just wanna make it bigger, rounder, more pert.
Currently, im skipping cardio, and doing about.... 3/4 times a week
One legged squats x60 (2 x 2sets of 15)
Altered roman deadlifts with about 28kg (2 sets of 10)
Various squats and lunges (about 2 x 30 sets)
And various stretches to keep in check!
iM ABOUT 5FT 1 and i weight about 130lb. But im no way fat, ive got a great figure im just improving it.
Im losing weight as in appearence, my weightis staying constant, so im losing fat and gaining muscle at a constant weight. What diet supplements would you reccomend?
Um pictures....no naked poses for me, so this will have to do...
Chantelle
06-25-2006, 06:02 AM
..Sorry pics r rubbish, but im not posing in underwear!!!
Welcome to WBB Chantelle... good luck on your goals.
My wife has a genetic bubble butt.. yes, thank god.. and she has lost over 40 lbs in the last couple of yrs. If it's genetic, it doesn't go away. But it looks a lot better as the fat disappears. So your Diet is very important. So you might find tracking that on Fitday.com is useful.
As for the refined definition, I think we need more of your program to give you better advice. You list some exercises and sets.. but not how they are all plugged together. Perhaps if you started a WBB Journal, posted your program and workouts on a consistant basis, you could get a lot of advice. Especially from a couple of the women on WBB who are very fit and love to help... Built and GetFit.
sCaRz*Of*PaiN
06-25-2006, 03:08 PM
..Sorry pics r rubbish, but im not posing in underwear!!!You've got a great shape to your backside. You're going to look awesome if you stick with this training stuff. :)
Chantelle
06-25-2006, 05:10 PM
Thankyou :angel:
Heres my current routine... could anyone help me fix it?
3-4 times a week
(2x15) One legged squats (Balancing leg BEHIND)
(2x15) One legged squats (Balancing leg in FRONT)
(2x10) Deadlifts ? with 28kg
(2x10) Lunges
(3x10) Full squats (various weights)
These exercises i dont know what they're called... so ill describe them.. if anyone can help me name them!
(2x15) - Lie on the floor on my back. Put my feet on the balancing bar which is about 1.5ft of the floor. Then raise my pelvis so its at a 45degree angle to dloor, by lifting weight off of the floor using my legs, keeping my shoulders on the floor. (Works my quads and hamstrings?)
(3x15) - With a held 20kg weight, i do 'calf raises' where i lift myself onto my tiptoes using only one foot, and back down as one rep building my calves.
(3x10) - With heels together, standing straight (like a ballerina lol) i sort of squat, bending my knees, then bringing them back together, like a ballerina move.
(3x10) Lie on my tummy, and with weights on legs lift each leg up in turn, working my butt.
(3x10) Donkey kicks??
(3x10) With elastic workout band tied to each ankle, stand feet together, hands on hips, an kick back about 1ft. Creating resistance on band and working butt.
Thanks for your help guys, would love some help on the workout!
Thankx
getfit
06-25-2006, 06:15 PM
what are Donkey kicks?
Built
06-25-2006, 06:15 PM
Why such high reps?
Nothing for your upper body? Back? Chest? Shoulders?
What's your diet like?
Chantelle
06-25-2006, 06:40 PM
what are Donkey kicks?
Kneel on all fours, like a donkey, and kick up your leg so you create a parallel with your thigh and the floor. Kicking up works your glutes i think
what are Donkey kicks?
from some web search:
Lie face down on a gym bench so that only your upper body is on the bench, and from your waist down is hanging off the bench. Grip the bench so your upper body is securely held on the bench. Now slowly press your legs back until your body is straight then hold for a second then lower your legs and bend your knees until your shins are nearly touching the floor.
I think swimmers also do this in the pool... grabbing onto the side of the pool...
sCaRz*Of*PaiN
06-25-2006, 06:41 PM
Thankyou :angel:
Heres my current routine... could anyone help me fix it?
3-4 times a week
(2x15) One legged squats (Balancing leg BEHIND)
(2x15) One legged squats (Balancing leg in FRONT)
(2x10) Deadlifts ? with 28kg
(2x10) Lunges
(3x10) Full squats (various weights)
These exercises i dont know what they're called... so ill describe them.. if anyone can help me name them!
(2x15) - Lie on the floor on my back. Put my feet on the balancing bar which is about 1.5ft of the floor. Then raise my pelvis so its at a 45degree angle to dloor, by lifting weight off of the floor using my legs, keeping my shoulders on the floor. (Works my quads and hamstrings?)
(3x15) - With a held 20kg weight, i do 'calf raises' where i lift myself onto my tiptoes using only one foot, and back down as one rep building my calves.
(3x10) - With heels together, standing straight (like a ballerina lol) i sort of squat, bending my knees, then bringing them back together, like a ballerina move.
(3x10) Lie on my tummy, and with weights on legs lift each leg up in turn, working my butt.
(3x10) Donkey kicks??
(3x10) With elastic workout band tied to each ankle, stand feet together, hands on hips, an kick back about 1ft. Creating resistance on band and working butt.
Thanks for your help guys, would love some help on the workout!
ThankxThis workout is severely lacking. Why aren't you doing a full body routine?
Chantelle
06-25-2006, 06:43 PM
I was wondering aswell... if anyone can help.
Many people talkof 'reaching a wall'.
Does that mean that if you continue your routine X constantly, eventually..
i) You no longer see IMPROVMENTS in size or strength, and size stays consistent
or
ii) Your muscles have become used to routine X and now shrink, because the QUALITY of muscle fibre has become such over training, that it can now use less bulk to deal with the SAME routine?
Basically, when you reach a 'wall' do muscles shrink down unless you increase routine, or do they just stay same size with same routine and you see no improvements? Any help would be great
Thankyoux
Chantelle
06-25-2006, 06:46 PM
I do have a fuller routine, sorry gave off wrong impression, just didnt put it down.
Diet wise, lean meat, turkey, tuna, chicken, some rice and carbs. Im a bit of a carb desperado, cant help it...:rolleyes:
What colour am i? Mixed up lol. Why do u ask
JarHead 1775
06-25-2006, 07:35 PM
Curious what's your diet like? Your workout seems like it's pretty good as is.
getfit
06-25-2006, 07:36 PM
Kneel on all fours, like a donkey, and kick up your leg so you create a parallel with your thigh and the floor. Kicking up works your glutes i think
ahh, i see
getfit
06-25-2006, 07:39 PM
I do have a fuller routine, sorry gave off wrong impression, just didnt put it down.
Diet wise, lean meat, turkey, tuna, chicken, some rice and carbs. Im a bit of a carb desperado, cant help it...:rolleyes:
What colour am i? Mixed up lol. Why do u ask
are you getting any healthy fats in your diet?
ottomanart
06-25-2006, 08:15 PM
(My goal was to build muscle under the fat to keep the weight and just bulk it up to a more prounounced shape).
1) Why is the weight dropping, and why arnt i bulking up?
2)If diet is so important, how come guys in prisons come out HUGE after training on non existent diets?
3) how can i maximise bulk on my legs?
4) When should i train, (im doing 2-3 sets of 10), with how much weight, and how often should i switch up routines?
My plan is to build muscle under my current layer of body fat, and build it up, without LOSING the fat existing? And if i build up my LEGS, body fat will only be used up from the place it was last diposited? Thats right isnt it, or else it would be spot reduction!
Thanks so much for your help,
heres a pic of the shape im looking for.... (ill post soon)
(guys enjoy)!
Keeping your shape(size) will be mostly a diet issue... You orriginal post asked some questions... this is my take (but talk to the other girls for better advice).
1. Any kind of exercise will burn cals and if you don't eat enough to replace them then you will lose weight. Some people have already talked about being “caloric deficit”. Make sure you are getting enough Cals to keep that weight (if that’s what you want). You also (probably) need to raise your calorie intake if you are trying to bulk.
2. Don’t know what to say about the prison guys… but if you did nothing but lift or sit in a cell all day I am guessing all your nutrients would get sucked into those muscles during lifting… you wouldn’t be using them for anything else.
3. If you really want to bilk your legs, concentrate your lifting on that part of your body. All the squats, deads, and lunges work legs so that looks like a good start. Remember to do low rep high weight. You don’t need to over work them and just make the all warn out and useless. You just want to fatigue them a bit and encourage new growth.
4. As far as training and how much weight…etc…. use the weights you feel comfortable with (remember low rep, high weight) and work out when ever you can fit it in your schedule. Don’t worry about switching up your routine just yet. You do that when your body has gotten used to a work out and it’ll take it a while to do that.
I agree that you should start a journal forum and maybe drop a Private Message to Built or Getfit. Guys will spout of a lot of info for you but we don’t have the same kind of body (obviously) so talking to the ladies will really be good.
Thanx for allthe help, its much appreciated!
Well, ibe naturally got 'that ghetto booty' my hips are big, and ive gota great butt, i just wanna make it bigger, rounder, more pert.
I am amazed to see that kinda backside actually exist!!!! You are gift to the world hahahaha.
Good luck with meeting your goals! Hope to see you on here a lot more!
Built
06-25-2006, 08:35 PM
Not so sure about the low rep, high weight thing for pure hypertrophy - I'd think you'd want lower rep and higher rep work - but you do need to put iron on the bar.
Regarding diet, www.fitday.com (http://www.fitday.com) enter your diet, take the average over a few days, post it up.
greathuskie
06-25-2006, 08:56 PM
this is the exact opposite of most newbie routines we see
she has all lower body, no upper body
:P
Built
06-25-2006, 08:56 PM
LOL! Pretty normal on the mostly-female boards, though.
Chantelle
06-26-2006, 01:18 PM
Also.. taken the advice on the increasing calories, but i CANNOT stomach the olive oil, even if im mixing it in with foods, any other things i can supplememnt it?
xxx
getfit
06-26-2006, 01:23 PM
butter, do you like butter?
Chantelle
06-26-2006, 02:12 PM
butter, do you like butter?
LOVE cheese, butter def! i can do butter, am i allowed to use such high saturated animal fats?
Built
06-26-2006, 02:16 PM
Why not?
getfit
06-26-2006, 02:29 PM
mmm butter
http://chetday.com/healthybutter.htm
Nicoman
06-26-2006, 05:55 PM
Ahh excellent article on butter....thanks getfit.
Welcome to WBB
~Nico
JarHead 1775
06-26-2006, 06:13 PM
Just tried olive oil with my 8 o' protein shake. Didn't notice a taste or anything at all. Pretty cool.
LOL...might try butter, this board is going to kill me...what's next lard? lol
Built
06-26-2006, 06:16 PM
Only if it's homemade.
Homemade lard is amazing. :drooling:
JarHead 1775
06-26-2006, 06:17 PM
lol...go ahead. Enlighten me.
Built
06-26-2006, 06:19 PM
The stuff you render from a pork roast? OMG it's to DIE for smeared on good Italian or French bread.
Dammit.
I'm a morbidly obese woman, trapped in a relatively buf body and desperately trying to escape!
Chantelle
06-27-2006, 12:50 PM
The stuff you render from a pork roast? OMG it's to DIE for smeared on good Italian or French bread.
Dammit.
I'm a morbidly obese woman, trapped in a relatively buf body and desperately trying to escape!
LOL I UNDERSTAND U!!!
Powered by vBulletin™ Version 4.0.6 Copyright © 2013 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.