E N E R G Y

[pocketplayer]

About a month ago I got serious about nutrition and exercise.

I recieved my supplements three weeks ago. They were;
Whey Pro Powder
ECA Stack
Gaba Powder --rest
5 HTP Tabs --rest
Flaxseed Powder
Electrolyte Replenishment Powder --when cycling
coconut oil

If I did it again, I would skip the gaba powder, 5 HTP & electrolyte replenishment powder

I feel tired a lot. I did a shoulder workout yesterday that was blasting and I am dead today. The Gaba and 5 HTP had a drowsy effect but I did not take last night at bedtime.

The ECA stack does not give me energy. I drank two cups of coffee today and felt like I had to go back to bed!

Maybe I have an inverse reaction to stimulants? I really need an energy boost here.

My basic diet is as follows:
Protein = chix breast; beef; salmon
Fiber Carbs = frozen berries, apples, broccoli, carrots, celery, red leaf lettuce, etc.
Starchy Carbs on workout days = yams, sweet pot, wheat tortilla, oats, grits
Fats = fish oils, virgin olive oil, coconut oil, vit e
Other = multi vit, digestive aid w/meats
My cheat is beer and popcorn. I still smoke but have cut to 3 a day. My goal to to quit outright.

I'm not sure why I feel so tired. I was tired yesterday when I did my workout, but really got into it. Right now I am WIPED! I feel like I could sleep all day.

I take the ECA stack 2-3 a day. I did not take today. Maybe that's why I feel so tired??? I thought I'd give my system shift after three weeks on. It usually gives me no energy boost.

Any rec's for a quality energy boost sup?

[gains2385]

Sleeping enough throug hout the day.

BTW, congrats on wanting to quit smoking.

[pocketplayer]

Thanks...yeah, the smoking thing is by far the most difficult thing I've had to deal with. I'm down to 1 a day for a few...it's getting down to none a day for two or three days then 1 or 2. It will come. The overall nutrition/workout has given me a whole new paradigm to deal with this.

I quit coffee a few months back but started with instant. I thot the ECA stack would do more energy wise.

Still learning. I read a bunch of threads on favorite energy sup's. I don't take creatine but maybe that will help.

[ddegroff]

how much sleep are you getting a night?

[Davidelmo]

Meh, stimulants do NOTHING for me either.

Your best bed is a good nights sleep and then a glucose drink before your workout

[pocketplayer]

I sleep OK...

I am resting for two days...no workout...let me body rest up. I am changing my routine as well from;
day 1--arms/back
day 2--rest
day 3--shoulders/chest
day 4--rest
repeat
I road cycle for legs and have probably different goals than most here...don't want to get big, but defined and lean. I have enough size from former lifting days gone by.

New routine
D1--shoulders
D2--chest
D3--rest
D4--arms/back
D5--rest
repeat
same as above for legs

This routine allows for concentrated effort w/o rush. I don't have more than an hour to spend per day. This way I don't compromise any upper body part and can do the needs 4-5 exercises per part.

E N E R G Y--Still searching. I just do not like coffee any more and will not pop $2.25 ea for those energy drinks. Looking for a powder to add to water.

Well, spent some time researching and found the following:
No Xplode
VPX Redline
Ergopharm AMP
Ready4War

These were all used a lot by commentators.

[Davidelmo]

Road cycling does not equal a leg exercise

Try squats, lunges and stiff-legged deadlifts instead ;)

Your routine looks quite bad too. This might suit you better for a 4 day split:
D1 - Chest + Back
D3 - Legs
D5 - Shoulders, accessories etc

[pocketplayer]

I don't know about "quite bad" as far as the routine goes. You have a rest day after each workout. I've always done a push/pull routine so I don't link chest & back together. Minor detail.

I focus on shoulders exclusively because based on my body type and family genetics, shoulders are the weakest body part as far as symmetry and proportion goes. This is specific to me and probably not someone else.

Legs--understand your reasoning. I'm in a different situation than you or tohers in here. I used to do the gym thing for many years. Can't right now. I work out at home and don't have leg equipment. I also am a cyclist more than a lifter. Again, different goals and objectives.

This thread was all about an energy product anyway. I've yet to get an answer to that. The ECA stack doesn't do "squat" for me...and I'm in a cutting phase at 225. I need to get down to 210 and my diet is very good. I just lack energy overall. Simple as that.