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Stumprrp
07-10-2006, 04:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lldN-Eg5rhg&search=power%20clean

that guy is throwing up those weights like crazy! that must be so tiring! isnt that called a high pull?

WBBIRL
07-10-2006, 04:54 PM
Hungarian cleans... seems like way to much help is had through rebounding.

Ive never done them though, still looks like good strength.

Stumprrp
07-10-2006, 05:07 PM
actually i think thats just high pulls not sure.

laxguy1028
07-10-2006, 05:14 PM
No, that is definatly not a high pull, i have never seen that before

JustinASU
07-10-2006, 05:16 PM
Looks like he's having a seizure.

Stumprrp
07-10-2006, 05:25 PM
Looks like he's having a seizure.

that made me laugh pretty hard lol.

Jinkies
07-10-2006, 05:25 PM
I think those are better known as hang cleans

getfit
07-10-2006, 05:27 PM
these are hang cleans

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/OlympicLifts/HangClean.html

Stumprrp
07-10-2006, 05:28 PM
what ever it is, that guy is explosive and strong.

bigbadwolfe
07-10-2006, 05:56 PM
That looked like a very good way to get hurt to me.The way he just dropped it back down each rep was nuts.Very good way to tear or pull something.

Stumprrp
07-10-2006, 05:59 PM
^actually wolfy i was thinking of the same thing, the force of 300 lbs coming back down is well, alot.

SkinnySadMan
07-10-2006, 10:19 PM
Looks like he's having a seizure.

I thought it was so cool until you said that. I literally "lawled" ... in real life.

HeavyBomber
07-10-2006, 11:27 PM
That looked like a very good way to get hurt to me.The way he just dropped it back down each rep was nuts.Very good way to tear or pull something.

Yeah man, I don't know about that. It's impressive at first but then as I watch it again I think I'd rather spare my shoulders for later days.

Eszekial
07-11-2006, 09:17 AM
That looked like a very good way to get hurt to me.The way he just dropped it back down each rep was nuts.Very good way to tear or pull something.
My thoughts exactly.

Stumprrp
07-11-2006, 09:26 AM
i guess he hasnt got hurt yet because he is still posting workouts over at the MMI forums, the MMI guys are some of the strongest people ive seen on the internet.

Guido
07-11-2006, 09:27 AM
That dude's going to pull his arms out of their sockets. I will laugh.

Stumprrp
07-11-2006, 09:32 AM
damn guys all this critizism i didnt ask for it lol i said it was crazy strong and it is ...UGHHH!HH lol.

stupid? HELL YES! strong? HELL YES!

greathuskie
07-11-2006, 10:31 AM
hahahahha about the seizure thing, thats teh only thing i could think about when watching it

Teufelhund
07-11-2006, 10:37 AM
That has to be the dumbest thing I've ever EVER seen anyone do with their body in the gym.

Ever.

Stumprrp
07-11-2006, 10:39 AM
honestly, aside from the weight coming down, i dont see what is so bad about it.

HeavyBomber
07-11-2006, 11:14 AM
i guess he hasnt got hurt yet because he is still posting workouts over at the MMI forums, the MMI guys are some of the strongest people ive seen on the internet.


Oh yeah, I know. I wouldn't ever disparage his strength and ability, lord knows I could not do that. The dude is strong and very athletic.
If I could do that I probably would. I'll bet his upper back is awesome. I should check out that board.

Stumprrp
07-11-2006, 11:16 AM
^^www.massmuscleinc.net

sign up so you can check out the videos, theres one guy there named Powerhouse48 that has squated 520 x 20 and deadlifted 520 x 20 lol.

on another note, what kind of plates are those? theres like 5 on each side.

WBBIRL
07-11-2006, 11:34 AM
Their 45's with 10's on each side, and while the squat video from powerhouse48 is impressive, he isnt close to parallel on ANY of those reps at all. He even states he was going for stamina, but why do cheat reps... lower the weight 50lbs and do them right.

I've only watched the squat video so far, but it seems over at MMI they care more about #'s then performing the lifts correctly. Impressive non the less.

Stumprrp
07-11-2006, 11:44 AM
^^lol, even if he drops 50 lbs he is still strong then like 90% of the world haha, nah, the people there are educated, and strong as hell, look for BIGPAUL at the Senior Nationals, amazing.

WBBIRL
07-11-2006, 02:08 PM
I know, but not one of those squats would have counted in a powerlifting meet.

Stronger then hell yes, and I dont think I did 505 for one at my strongest point let alone 515 for 20. I just dont agree with doing a lift improperly for any reason.

Stumprrp
07-11-2006, 02:10 PM
yeah i hear you on there, you watch any others?

bjohnso
07-11-2006, 06:22 PM
That looked like a very good way to get hurt to me.The way he just dropped it back down each rep was nuts.Very good way to tear or pull something.

That's what I was thinking.

chris mason
07-11-2006, 07:44 PM
To me the guy just looks very strong in that movement. If he trained up to the weight gradually I am not worried about him injuring himself.

Chris

Stumprrp
07-11-2006, 07:49 PM
^ probley chris, like i said those MMI guys are pretty insane, tiz a weird movement.

waynedang
07-11-2006, 07:53 PM
There is a local guy that helps with football and was an oly lifting coach in the 92 olympics (i think thats the year) The local HS kids have some great clean power and they do the exact same thing. They break the clean into three seperate parts and it works well for them. they have several kids cleaning over 300lbs as light as 180lbs bwt.


Wayne

Dinosaur
07-11-2006, 09:40 PM
From what Thrower said over on MMI:

"The hungarians and former soviets used this lift as a speed/power movement. The idea is to do five fast reps and never let the bar pause or stop moving. Often with regular hang cleans people will pause briefly at the bottom and reset before the next pull."

Seems to be really good for explosiveness. He is one strong dude.

Stumprrp
07-12-2006, 05:48 AM
if i tried that i think i would puke my brains out, looks like cardio too!

WBBIRL
07-12-2006, 07:44 AM
Some of those guys are crazy, one of them totaled 2600lbs @308lbs !!!!

I didnt see any of the lifts, but form would be no reason to cut down a 700+LB benchpress.

Stumprrp
07-12-2006, 08:29 AM
yeah, some are amazingly strong and there real cool guys to talk with.

SaVvY
07-12-2006, 11:38 AM
he makes that look like its fake..sorta like half a reverse cheat curl / half a clean

Keith
07-12-2006, 11:44 AM
Absolutely insane to literally toy with that much weight! Very impressive, but nonetheless, great way to get an injury.

laxguy1028
07-12-2006, 02:03 PM
I don't see why you all say it is a good way to get injured, he is very strong and has worked him self to the point where he can handle that weight. It is not too much weight for him and he can handle it so the movement is pretty safe for him.

Stumprrp
07-12-2006, 02:13 PM
i think im going to try them it looks fun for some reason lol

khari
07-12-2006, 02:44 PM
How do you guys think people lowered the weight (and still do, for that matter) after the clean before/without bumper plates? They let it drop to the quads like he does in that video and lower it to the ground from there. It's fine.

Mike G
07-12-2006, 03:07 PM
That was insane.

Isaac Wilkins
07-14-2006, 04:03 AM
Those are bumper plates, not 45's, that's why he drops it. That's the appropriate thing to do when one is olympic lifting. If you clean or snatch a big weight trying to lower it down under control is a recipe for an injury. One is supposed to simply drop the weight. Watch some olympic lifting sometime.

Those are hang cleans. His form, particularly racking the clean, leaves a bit to be desired but isn't awful. However, he is VERY explosive and strong. 300 for five is no joke from the hang.

Stumprrp
07-14-2006, 04:22 AM
yeah i thought they were bumper plates, 25 lbs a piece prob.

Dinosaur
07-14-2006, 04:48 AM
Note that he calls them Hungarian cleans, and explains why they're different. It's a new thing I suppose.

CDONDICI
07-17-2006, 12:12 AM
He needs to learn to rack the weight properly or he is gonna have terrible wrist pain in a few yrs. Other than that that is very explosive strength.

Gettin Stupid
07-21-2006, 01:24 PM
This Thower guy in the vid, who many here seem to be bad mouthing, is an 8 time NCAA champion in various throwing events.

I think he knows what he's doing. :)

Gettin Stupid
07-21-2006, 01:30 PM
^^www.massmuscleinc.net



Btw, the url is www.mmipowertraining.com

:)

ArchAngel777
07-21-2006, 03:56 PM
Ok, so I seen everyone critisizing him and I thought "Ok, let me find out why everyone is being so harsh"... Well, I agree, those are a rather stupid thing to do. It isn't so much that he would injure himself (though a friend of mine did those with 315 X 10) and then for the next 2 months he could barely move his neck. He pinched something. The form was just like this guys in the video.

I don't consider that explosive strength though. I'd be real hard pressed to see if he could clean the weight. The mechanics allow for more weight on a hang clean than a proper, from the floor clean. Essentially what he is doing is jumping and getting under the weight. These are often much easier than a normal clean.

To put things into perspective, my friend could do 315 X 10 with those partial hang cleans, but he couldn't even clean 315 once from the floor. That is just to give you an idea of some things.

Whatever the case, the guy is stronger than me! Props to him for some decent strength. But I really don't consider that "exposive". I hate to sound critical, just my thoughts.

Goodwinm
07-21-2006, 05:44 PM
ArchAngel - Are you saying Hang cleans are easier than Cleans from the floor? Damn man I disagree there. Well speaking from personal experience ihave found that I can clean more from the floor than I can hang clean.

And also, when you clean fmo the floor you are still supposed to get under the barbell as well as on hang cleans.

ArchAngel777
07-21-2006, 09:32 PM
Yeah, that is what I was saying. But, that isn't the case for everyone. It depends on where you develop your power from. People who can shrug a lot of weight will probably find hang cleans a lot easier than from the floor.

I am with you in that cleans from the floor are easier for me than hang cleans, but that is mostly because my shrugs are pathetic. I suppose the question to pose is this. If he was capable of 315 X 5 (perhaps he is) that I don't understand why not just do a regular clean.

Anyway, so for some people hang cleans are a lot easier, for others the power clean is easier. Depends on the person and where they develop their power.

At any rate, pretty impressive strength to do that in the first place.

Goodwinm
07-22-2006, 12:57 AM
Yer i get what your saying about where ppl generate most their power from.
Once i get my form sorted im sure i'll be able to hang clean 220 soon enough, (all the weight i have)As my shrug strength is very good.

And im with you on the fact that if you can do 315 x 5 on whatever those things are why not just do regular cleans and hang cleans. Oh well, Im sure after recording that video and doing those reps he felt like **** the next day lol

WBBIRL
07-22-2006, 11:26 AM
To clear it up, the guy was doing hungarin hang cleans and was trying to do exactly whats pictured. He's a NCAA champion thrower, I wouldnt doubt he could clean 315 for 5..